ok and in the next post you said she offers a lay-away plan...thats what i was asking about, what does that have to do with the fact that she shipps? Sounds like you are implying that she isn't reputable based on the fact that she shipps or what?? Im not the pot calling the kettle black you are the one that started this mess, without knowing anything about what was and was not being charged 6years ago. You went way off topic with your questions in reference to what yorkiemom1 had said about the prices of Royal teacup prices.

That was additional information that was found on her website that you might be interested in knowing about.

Royal Teacup has some very sickly looking babies. The prices they are charging are outrageous too. I feel sorry for these babies....and for the owners too......such heartbreak

I guess we all read differently because absolutely no where did I see Yorkiemom1 as saying she should get 5 to 6k for a pet quality pup. It seems lately there are some with an ax to grind that want to attack all the breeders on YT. Just MHO

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To be fair Yorkies1 pricing came up because of her statement and the ladies here are so sharp not missing a thing because we have seen things shocking misleading and "come out" time and time and time again.

Im not about attacking her but she did completely ignore my questions. Her post raised red flags that have been seen before and red flags as we all know are called such because they are signs of trouble.

No thus thread should back off her yes it spun sideways OT...anyways no one has a "bug up their "! Anything. We do not know enough to say anything about this members breeding, her statements were questions and yes it go sideways...this happens.

BTW reputable breeders do NOT have lay away plans only wait list or pup deposits...if she is a reputabke breeder as she may very well be she'd be the first ine I've ever heard of offering lay away...in fact reputabke breeders do NOT offer lay away because if you need lay away to buy your dog how can you hobest afford an expensive medical emergency.

Rarely people who can afford such things use layaway...people who can afford such, save on their own and then spend. That's my opinion and that will never change on the ideal of layaway for puppy purchasing.

I havent looked at her site and I will not until a thread she creates or someone else is actually about her. My statement on layaway is something Id say about my best friend, and is meant in general fir anyone. Again shed be the first reputable breeder Ive ever heard of offering layaway something usually done specifically by puppy mill brokers.

I guess that you missed the part where it says she is vet recommended/approved and she is a member in good standing with the BBB. That is information I would be interested in.

Not to attack her this isnt about her to me, its just general information forand buyers to havethe in anthe educational arsenal...but again pup mills have that.
Bbb recomendation means no one complained yet vet reccomended gee vets go into pup mills and debark euthanise crop ears asminister meds etc and give recomendations...a vet approval is only as quality as the vet paid by the breeder.

She may be reputable but these statements in my experience are very subjective
Stick around read mo you'll hopefully understand.

Sweetie...I just wanted you to know how you can get a dog up there to Canada. ..And that you could even put it in layaway if need be. You have a computer....obviously....to look up the rest of it.

The fact is she came back and explained herself. And how do we know what show breeders will pay for a show dog??? I know when my father raised hunting dogs he was offered many thousands of dollars for some of his pups and that was a long time ago. It seems that some have decided to group her with this breeder and maybe its just me but it also seems they did attack her personally if you read what they said about past posts etc. I do not know yorkiemom1 personally. But I will say she spends valuable time on YT helping lots of us here, as do a lot of the breeders/show people. I appreciate their help and it saddens me to see a small handful attack these people over and over in threads. JMHO.

Yes "sweetie" I am perfectly capable of looking up the rest of it as I am not mentally challenged, and yes I do own a computor.
We also have breeders up here in Canada, if I could not get a pup from a breeder up here, I would fly down and pick up my pup myself from yorkiemom1, I do know of ways to get a pup from the U.S. to Canada.
Not all people have the money to pay for a pup from a reputable breeder up here either and some do offer lay-away. Again buy your breeder first.
I unknowingly bought from a back-yard breeder, luckily both my pups have been healthy....would I buy from her again..no. Would I pay to get a pup from yorkiemom1..yes I would. Because I know these pups would be healthy and she stands behind her pups throughout their lives. Thats enough for me. The lay-away option that she may offer does nothing to deter me...IMO that would be wonderful.

What she charges for her show dogs was not my business, issue or question.

I dont think anyone would dare group her with RTP.

If thats how it was meant thats very wrong I didnt see it that way.
I saw it as a side OT back abd forth over her pricing and wording etc. I saw it as wanting clarification to her statement.

Again she either missed or ignored my questions but whatever.

I do NOT see any reason to lump her anywhere since no one here has a pup from her to share about or ample reason to do so.

However I stand behind my statement on layaway as well general comments about BBB and vet approvals. Which again was general and noy neant to slight or approver YM 1 beibg lumped anywhere.

Honestly I just wanted to understand her breeding program I had never heard of such beffore well yes a mini schnauzer breeder I know but thats vecause she breeds whites not breed club but AKC accepted

[/B]QUOTE=concretegurl;3978527]To be fair Yorkies1 pricing came up because of her statement and the ladies here are so sharp not missing a thing because we have seen things shocking misleading and "come out" time and time and time again.

Im not about attacking her but she did completely ignore my questions. Her post raised red flags that have been seen before and red flags as we all know are called such because they are signs of trouble.

No thus thread should back off her yes it spun sideways OT...anyways no one has a "bug up their "! Anything. We do not know enough to say anything about this members breeding, her statements were questions and yes it go sideways...this happens.

BTW reputable breeders do NOT have lay away plans only wait list or pup deposits...if she is a reputabke breeder as she may very well be she'd be the first ine I've ever heard of offering lay away...in fact reputabke breeders do NOT offer lay away because if you need lay away to buy your dog how can you hobest afford an expensive medical emergency.

Rarely people who can afford such things use layaway...people who can afford such, save on their own and then spend. That's my opinion and that will never change on the ideal of layaway for puppy purchasing.

I havent looked at her site and I will not until a thread she creates or someone else is actually about her. My statement on layaway is something Id say about my best friend, and is meant in general fir anyone. Again shed be the first reputable breeder Ive ever heard of offering layaway something usually done specifically by puppy mill brokers.[/QU







Thank you concretegirl for trying to help explain

I don't know if you would classify it as layaway or not but....when I was searching a while back for another pup after we lost Lolita I posted on YT. I had several very reputable breeders offer to let me pay in installments if need be as my finances were not what some peoples are. I carry pet ins. and take very good care of my babies so that was not an issue but initial price was. I for one was very thankful to these people who were kind enough to offer me that help. We all have had to put deposits on our little ones to hold them for us so I don't really see that if a breeder has a puppy for 6 weeks after we do that, that they will take payments until we pick them up it is a bad thing. JMHO

Wow! Just Wow! I understand perfectly! It seems this thread started out with Royalteacups and has turned into attacks on reputable breeders on this forum. Many of the breeders on here have helped countless of us, whether it be the sick and injured or to offer support in a time of grief, helping those of us looking for a pup, or congratulating those that have added a pup to their lives.
I have read many of Yorkiemom1's posts and I find NOTHING disreputable about her. Instead of trying to discredit her and the other breeders on this forum why not stick to the topic of the thread?

Thank you!!! I agree 100%

I think iys different if breeders work with you privately on payment as I said I didnt look at her site I hace no reason or want to make this about her.

However advertising layaway is a typical pup mill move. I dont like it because it leads to impulse buy I cant afford it but I can make paymebts and commits people to be finacially invested in something they should have saved for and planned for.

Thays just my opinion.


Msyorktown I answered that in my first post. People saw what they felt was a red flag and they choae to respond the way they did. I dont like censoring how people post because I dont like it being done to me.

I like YM1 on here, but it doesnt mean I wont disagree with someone I like. Although yes the side topic went a bit far...hense my responses to talking about Kim Kardasian...

No one was linking her or comparing her AT ALL to Royal Teacup Puppies. We weren't questiong show dog prices either. We were talking about PET QUALITY pricing. She had said shed gotten those prices (for her healthy pups) All Good breeders bred for health....that is a given...but a good, reputable breeder wont charge 6,000+ for pet quality. We were asking her about that. On this forum....people WILL ask questions.

Thank you, Concretegirl. I learn stuff all the time on here. When I'm ready to buy another dog....Ill remember this little bit of information you've provided.

Thank you for that post! And some wonder why show breeders, have left this board in the past? Nay not even the dreaded word "show breeders", but breeders of kind, wise, and impassionated hearts, who want to do the best by our breed, and put their money where their mouth is. With testing, with evaluating, with top notch care and socializing, vetting, et al.

I have paid over $5K for a breeding female. If YorkieMom1 has sold a breeding dog for that, who the heck cares? And BTW, you could say I bought my female on a "lay a way" plan, as I funnelled money to Russia over several months.

It saddens me that a regular contributor to this board, who has and freely shares much advice, is denigrated in this way.

Do I think it is reasonable to pay $5K for a top quality pet Yorkie. Actually not. But YorkieMom1 never said she sold pets for that price.

I will close this now, in order for the original purpose of the thread to get back on track!

If you really wanted to question her about her prices then maybe it could of been done in a pm because to many of us on here it looked like a full on attack on her.

I agree completely.

Gemy....we weren't questioning what her show dogs sold for.....and thank you for clarifying that pet quality pups should not be priced for 5,000-6,000+. There are so many people out there that need a reputable breeder to come out and inform them if this fact.

You're right..this thread went a bit too far....my fault mostly I believe. I will try not to get soo caught up again...LOL. Now...for the third or fourth time...I will try and get this thread back on topic. Talking about Royal Teacup Pups

Here's the site on those poor babies from Royal Teacup Yorkies.

I was told by an actual puppy broker of puppies from Korean puppy mills that they do photoshop the pictures to make the puppies look cuter and smaller. Thus hopefully appealing for the consumer wo wants the tinies.

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Yes....its a terrible business!!! I love dogs....all dogs....and they rely on humans to treat them with the best intentions in mind. They are such trusting, loving animals and then someone does this to them.

Many people are also aware a pup is sold saying it is often twice its actual age.

Exactly!!!!