I do belive I read she breed her male with the BYBER female and got the blue pup that way she did not buy the pup, It seems so strange that this mother just had this blue pup and preg again due in three weeks a back to back breeding.

She feels the dog has a better chance with her instead of the owner. She is doing what she can to help. The female is lucky to have her. I have had three litters and my mom dog always was able to do everything herself. ( I broke the bags). And yes she is spayed now. But all my pups have gotten wonderful homes and I get pictures and updates on how they are doing. Yes there are lots of horrible things that can happen but why not help her instead of being so negative. A vet on call is always a good thing. And yes always expect the worse but I think you are doing a great favor to this dog and wish you all the best luck. I love this site and believe there is tons of great information. And lots of very strong opions which is great Got to love we can all voice them

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I derived nothing of this from the first post and have yet to hear it from the OP; but be that as it may:

Again, I will pray for this mama yorkie and her unborn pups. Nothing else I can do.

I haven't been following this story that well but I think the breeder has several females and this is a different one who she was offered a replacement for the blue born puppy. What I will say, is that she is trying to educate this BYBer who has agreed to spay some of these dogs and to keep puppies longer. Also, I also give credit that even though this is not something that I personally would involve myself with there are baby steps being make with both the OPer and this breeder. But~disclaimer on this information since I didn't follow the original story. :(

Here is another link http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3485844-post20.html

Page one its the same bitch who gave birth to the blue pup that she now owns, the bitch is now preg again and shes took her in, the father is not the same,(unknown) I hope she can do better for this little girl then the breeder

I stand by my statement, the tone of the original post is very presumptive.

Perhaps there are extenutating circumstances, in which case if OP was going to reach out to any of the respected breeders here for help, you would think that would occur one on one via PM. You do not have to be here all that long to understand who has the knowledge to provide credible and helpful advice - if they choose to be involved. To assert that others should be "on call" is, IMO offensive and only reasserts the misperception that this forum and it's members somehow serve as a "vet alternative".

I hope this situation has a positive outcome.

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The blue-born pup is only 7 weeks old, and his mother is already pregnant again and due in 3 weeks? Is that even possible? It's got to be a different female, not the one that produced the blue-born.

It is a different female. Read the link I posted. I have to say this entire thing is nothing but a mess. :(

Thats what I was thinking but someone following her stories posted its the same female, but what seems to be going on from the post Ive read theres a byb who has many females, The OP has a male that she used with this byb as a stud and got 1st pick, however only one pup was born and it was a blue pup at that, The OP keept the blue pup but was offered another pup but wasnt sure about taking it, as she posted on a new thread, Iam assuming that after noticing all the problems and female yorkies pregnant the OP has stepped in and took the female to help with the Whelp, this has to be another female pregant as the female who had the blue babie would not have even went into another heat cycle yet, Rather she took the mom in for another pup or not is unknown but maybe this momma is better off out of the breeder hands, Its also unclear if this mother is a carrer of the gene the last mother and father had, althou it was posted that this is the same mother of the blue pup I just dont think it is after all the blue pup was only born a few months ago,

And all thou its a big mess and some may not agree I hope she finds the confert and careing comments shes came here looking for, There are good people here who will assit, but i would PM the breeders suggested for the best info but not use YT as a vet just a support system.

No, letting you vet know and then counting on internet help is not 'all you can do'. And I can tell you this...you may not have time to be posting like a mad woman once it's all happening. While you're posting, disaster could happen...just like that! So, YOU'D BEST BE READY!!

I agree with Jodi...this thing is a total mess. Why you would want to do this is beyond me. No matter what you think of the breeder, she at least knows how to whelp a litter of pups. Your easy answer is to not do this....but that doesn't look like it will happen.

Short of that, the next best thing (since you feel you can take better 'care' of her) is to have the breeder come to your home at whelping time. That way, someone at least somewhat experienced is actually there. Of course, you are totally responsible for the bitch's and pups welfare and safety so you MUST be able to know when the time comes what's happening so the breeder can come over. In that regard, here's a website to help you determine that... Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders.

I actually feel irresponsible even posting this, but maybe it will help keep the Mama and pups from disaster....maybe not.

I will say this....you are totally responsible once you take this on and if it all goes to hell, it's on you. You may be acting out of compassion, but you need to take a long hard look again at just what you're getting yourself into.

Ok, Im here to reply...sorry it took so long. Yes, is a VERY messy situation. This female IS NOT the same fermale. This "breeder" has several yorkies. These parents are ENTIRELY different from Macs. My yorkie, Bevo, is Macs daddy and is going to be neutered. It is such a long story.......

I had asked opinions earlier on bringing this female home. Yes, her owner has offered me a pup from this litter because Mac was a blue. She keeps her dogs in small crates, and lets them go at 6 weeks. I have been desperately trying to get her to change her ways, and think MAYBE I am haveing a small impact. Plz read my previous thread (im not really sure how to post the link) and you will better understand. I thought long and hard over this decision, and thought it would be in the mommas best interest to come here. I have informed my vet and will be taking her to him in two weeks time for another sonogram to make sure of the number of puppies. She has had one and they found 3. I have gathered all the supplies and do know there is a good possibility she could need a c-section. I am no way doing this for the "fun" of it nor am I getting some kick out of it. I am truly trying to help.

Thank you for those that are there to support. For the others, I understand. I didnt breed this dog, and I know how many yorkies there are out there born to BYB's. She is another. I am truly just trying to help make a difference in their health by keeping her and her pups in a safe, clean envireoment where I will have control over when they leave. And it wont be 6 weeks!!

Thanks for clearing up this is not the same bitch, and Iam glade to see an outsider notice a byb needing education but I cant help but to agree with woggieman on the subject of birthing the pups, Even thou the byb is not breeding with the respect of the dogs atleast she knows how to help with the whelp. So if you do not know how to deliver pups atleast have the byb come over for the birthing or take her to the vet other then that I can see why youd want the pups after the birth in your care its never a good thing to see a 6 week old pup stay caged its hole life and then snatched from its mother at such a young age, Please do have help during the whelp and not relie on YT memebers for such dier info at what could be a life changing event. PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND MOMMA