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How do I convince someone not to breed their dog? 1 Attachment(s) I am currently a foster mother to an adorable 8 month old female yorkie. She is the sweetest dog I've ever known and I wish I could keep her. I am currently taking care of her for someone for a few months. She is currently in heat and when the owner took her to the vet yesterday, the vet recommended spaying her. The owner does not want to spay her because she wants to breed her in the future. The problem is that this person is not very responsible (kinda the reason I am taking care of her for now) and I am afraid she will breed her without doing any research. I think this dog has roach back. Is there any way of getting a professional to evaluate her and tell the owner she is not suitable for breeding? :confused: I want what is best for the dog and I know if she doesn't get spayed she may have a miserable life with an irresponsible, uninformed breeder. |
She looks really small? How big is she? |
Unfortunately she's not very small so I can't use that angle to convince her. She's over 7 pounds. |
Too bad she looks tinier than that in her picture. I would just tell her that she has faults and to breed her would be irresponsible. Ethical breeders try to improve the breed. I am sure the breeders on here can help you out more with this. |
I wish you could keep her, too. :( Perhaps you could find a very reputable breeder to look at her to give you some reasons to relay to her why she shouldn't be bred besides her not being responsible enough to breed. ;) |
What is her exact intention/purpose to consider breeding? The money maybe? Breeding to continue the blood lines? Become a professional breeder? Does the dog have AKC papers? The thing is, if she is all "about the money" and her dog does not have papers...you can make it known to her that she will not fetch "top dollar" for her pups due to lack of AKC paperwork. Just an idea. |
You may want to try to focus on the fact that there is always a risk factor when breeding and yorkies can be prone to hisk risk complications. She wouldn't want to take a chance on losing her, right? |
Sorry to say that but when a person have the idea of breeding the little ones there are almost nothing to say to convince them to not breed them . |
DomLee, I don't know what her exact intentions are for wanting to breed, but my guess is she wants to do it for the money. She says she paid $2400 for her and has papers of the past 8 generations, which she assumes makes her good breeding quality. :eek: I don't know if they are AKC papers because she's never mentioned AKC. I haven't really expressed my concerns about breeding because I don't want her to think I'm telling her what to do with her dog. I'm afraid she might get upset and take the dog somewhere else (since she cannot keep her at her house yet). That is why I am trying to find a way to show her that she shouldn't breed her without offending her. The owner's mom (who I work with) was dissapointed when the vet recommended she be spayed and I expressed my feelings about not spaying to her mom (higher risk of cancer). She seemed clueless about the risks of not spaying. :mad: It's a sticky situation but I want what is best for the dog. :love: |
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It's so hard to convince people who are ignorant about breeding. I'm sure she doesn't know a whole lot about the risks about breeding yorkies, and she probably doesn't even know the standard. Maybe you can print something off of AKC website that can show her what the standard is. Also remind her that her vet recommended spaying for a reason. Just a suggestion. |
What I would do is, go to an animal clinic or shelter and they'll have her spayed for free. Someone who needs to find a foster home for their dog because they're too busy shouldn't even have a DOG let alone try to breed responsibly. Where is Kimberley quote? "If you don't have time, get a stuffed animal". Come to think of it, I hope these people are paying you to keep their dog. If they're not, give her to someone else. I'll take her and have her spayed. It sounds like she doesn't even care about the dog, so I don't see any reason of breeding her except the money. |
My mentor just told me that to avoid the convincing issues is to have the pups spayed or neutered before leaving the home .Peoples will tell you something and do the other . If something wrong happens , it will be too easy to blame the breeder . |
I am afraid that if the dog's owner really wants to breed her- there is nothing that you can do- Just repeat all that you have heard us say over and over again and hope that some of it will sink in. Just pray that some bells will go off in the owners head to make him/her change her mind. Good luck Kathy |
That is so true. I am so paranoid that I am altering my pet puppies before they leave. Quote:
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If this can be done let me know as I run into this with many breeds all the time. Joy |
how does she know its 8 generation papered. does she actually have the pedigree or the breeder just told her that. alot of breeders claim champion bloodlines but unless you have the pedigree to prove it then you dont have a champion dog. akc told me the most you can order is a 4 generation i tried to get more family members but akc said they only go up to 4 generations and just because you know the generations that doesnt make her a good candidate to be bred.she doesnt even sound like she knows enough about breeding cause if she did she would know that its not a simple go have your puppys and now im rich kind of thing and what if no one buys her puppies is she willing to have 5 puppies running around her house besides vet bills and food . maybe that will help you convince her. good thing that dog has a good friend like you. :) |
I think that StewiesMom has a great point, if you do not have time for the dog, then you should not be able to breed, what if she cant be there, I dont think it is fair for the dog. But I also think that you should wait untill the dog is out of heat to spay her. Because my vet told me that while the dog is in heat it is very dangerous, so my vet refused to spay one of our dogs while in heat. But the dog should not be breeded, I sound confusing, I hope that this is not hard to understand. |
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I work with an animal rescue organization also & there are so many dogs mixed & purebred that end up there because the so called breeder couldn't sell em & didn't wanna be bothered with the costs of so many pups. :mad: |
Our job is never a easy one , sometimes I am really down when I think of some humans . Yesterday , we received a phone call of the police dept telling us there was a puppymill in a house . You should have seen the place . It was impossible to go in without a mask . The place was really smelly . The vet euthanazied all the dogs because they were really sick . They all told us that they were dead-alive dogs . They didn't have food or water for days and days so......... |
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I wish you could keep her. If the owner wants to breed her theres probably nothing that you can say that will help her change her mind. |
Unfortunately, the dog does not belong to you and it is the owner's choice to decide whether to breed her or not. To do as Stewie'sMom suggests in my opinion would be like taking a child you are babysitting and having life altering and risky surgery performed w/o the parent's consent. Unthinkable!!The law in our country considers dogs property and as such the owners of the "property" have the right to decide what is done with the dog outside laws against cruelty, etc. That said, I think yiur first question about having the dog evaluated by a professional is a great one. Find a reproductive specialist (a canine theriogenologist) in your area and tell them to take her there for an evaluation of her fitness to free whelp a litter of puppies as well as have her tested for any genetic defects, etc. You could even go so far as to offer to take her while she is in your care and then provide them with the results. You would have to be willing to accept the results either way however in case the specialist agrees with the owner and gives the go ahead to breed. Just an idea. Hope it works out. |
i actually agree with kristy (stewies mom), if she can't even take care of the dog then to me she shouldn't have one! i would actually take steps to try and keep the dog seeing as the owner seems very clueless. hell, invite her to come on here, she will definitly get a wake up call. :thumbup: |
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I thought it was the fact that where the owner currently lives doesn't allow dogs...not that she didn't have the time for her??? Did I miss that? The owner obviously loves and cares for the dog and is taking her to the vet and has chosen you to care for her, so what is it about her that is irresponsible? Just curious. |
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Excuses, Whatever..The owner obviously is out for MONEY. Only you would make excuses, Kristy is correct. I don't understand how one can mistake Greed for LOVE! |
I may get slack for this but .... People who want to breed their pets irresponsibly will find any excuse to do it. They do not care about bettering the breed, they will breed mixes, dogs out of standard............. because they have so many excuses and idiots backing them up. " "Temperment is more important than standard, breeding mixes is ok (all breeds were mixes once). " "My dog is papered so he/she must be healthy, great lines, great quality". "No matter what scam registry they are registered with, or they register them with the scam registries to make more money for their papered pups. "Its ok to breed tinies, Its MY dog so I can do what I want!!! (risk it\'s life but who cares it\'s MY dog?". :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: |
Right On Breeze! Cindy & The Gang |
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