Amazed

[Breezeaway]

There is a saying that goes " You cant teach an old dog new tricks"
I always wondered if that was true. I guess I know now.

[BFar]

I didn't even notice who posted what when I read through the thread and I don't even know any of y'all. I will say that when I read the ad, I took the time to scroll down and see who's ad it was and it was right there. I also took "Deposit to Hold" immediately to mean that the seller was going to hold the puppy. When the poor woman was distraught enough to come on here and describe her medical condition, that was 'nuff said, IMO. But no, snide remarks about her blood loss were made. OMG! If whoever you are that wrote that is good with it, that's all that should matter to you. Personally, I would be worried that if anything worse happened to that person, I may have contributed to her suffering.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

That maybe you should apply more human compassion and not use so much anger to guide you. I know you call it passion and I get that, but it has crossed a certain line and it no longer comes across as passion for the breed and more of a passion to attack. I, for one, want to think of you differently and I'm sure the 3 threads that were started are because they are grasping to understand what lies in a person's heart that would cause them to attack a person when they are so ill. If you are mad at me for writing this, then that's okay...I can understand and respect your feelings. Can you do the same for those that are trying to understand you a bit more?

Claims of illness have been a common thread many times over from breeders needing to sell puppies way too early. Somehow this entire thing has been turned around on me well............because it is me. There have been members that have come here for advice more times than I care to remember that said "my breeder is sick and want me to take my puppy at 5,6,7 weeks old". As a collective group they are always advised to not trust the breeder and to move on. Just because my post unknowingly out Sugar's Mom as the poster of an ad for a 5 week old puppy~I'm the bad guy? I'm heartless? No compassion? That's just a total joke and spin on the truth sorry to say. The entire ad screamed of BYBer trying to dump a puppy IMO. My second post to the thread was shock that it was Sugar's Mom or did you not read that part Who would have thought that an ad with so many RED FLAGS would belong to a long time member of YorkieTalk that has sold plenty of puppies on this forum.

[Breezeaway]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Claims of illness have been a common thread many times over from breeders needing to sell puppies way too early. Somehow this entire thing has been turned around on me well............because it is me. There have been members that have come here for advice more times than I care to remember that said "my breeder is sick and want me to take my puppy at 5,6,7 weeks old". As a collective group they are always advised to not trust the breeder and to move on. Just because my post unknowingly out Sugar's Mom as the poster of an ad for a 5 week old puppy~I'm the bad guy? I'm heartless? No compassion? That's just a total joke and spin on the truth sorry to say. The entire ad screamed of BYBer trying to dump a puppy IMO. My second post to the thread was shock that it was Sugar's Mom or did you not read that part Who would have thought that an ad with so many RED FLAGS would belong to a long time member of YorkieTalk that has sold plenty of puppies on this forum.

So are you implying she is lying about her illness? Geeesh

[BFar]

Dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love.
They are the role model for being alive~Gilda Radner

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by BFar

I didn't even notice who posted what when I read through the thread and I don't even know any of y'all. I will say that when I read the ad, I took the time to scroll down and see who's ad it was and it was right there. I also took "Deposit to Hold" immediately to mean that the seller was going to hold the puppy. When the poor woman was distraught enough to come on here and describe her medical condition, that was 'nuff said, IMO. But no, snide remarks about her blood loss were made. OMG! If whoever you are that wrote that is good with it, that's all that should matter to you. Personally, I would be worried that if anything worse happened to that person, I may have contributed to her suffering.

Nope you are totally incorrect as to any name being attached to that ad. There was a city, state and phone number. No name anywhere. Ramblings about all types of red flagged unneeded information but nothing referring to what the actual name of this breeder. You really need to get your facts straight. It might have been changed after the fact as a CMA move but it sure wasn't there when I posted my thread. Not only that but my thread originally posted in the General forum and was moved to the breeder forum. Those type of threads are common place on this forum~used to educate others and usually not posted by me. Too funny how the "distraught" woman posted attacking me within 8 minutes claiming not to have been on YorkieTalk for months. Could you explain to me how that little coincidence happened? I find that very interesting as well. This is all just totally ridiculous and fill with hypocrisy!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

So are you implying she is lying about her illness? Geeesh

I have no idea then and do not know now. Remember she hasn't been on YT for what was it .......years? Well except for yesterday when she just happened to be here~looking in the general forum to see a link to her ad that was selling a 5 week old pupp~which allowed her to respond in 8 minutes.

[chachi]

Maybe I shouldnt have said their are 2 groups of people on here. Maybe I should have said theres different viewpoints on what constitutes a reputable breeder. Also just because you question someone on something doesnt mean you are mean or harsh. This site is about education so there is nothing wrong with questioning a breeder about something in their ad. That is not being mean. That ad did have some flags and I think if it hadnt been Dee but someone no one knew nothing would have been made about this. Megansmomma herself had no idea this was Dee when she made the thread.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by chachi

Maybe I shouldnt have said their are 2 groups of people on here. Maybe I should have said theres different viewpoints on what constitutes a reputable breeder. Also just because you question someone on something doesnt mean you are mean or harsh. This site is about education so there is nothing wrong with questioning a breeder about something in their ad. That is not being mean. That ad did have some flags and I think if it hadnt been Dee but someone no one knew nothing would have been made about this. Megansmomma herself had no idea this was Dee when she made the thread.

Thanks you......but it was stated previously, they are using my innocence to "teach me a lesson" and "show me how it feels".

[Rhetts_mama]

I asked it in the other thread, and I am asking it here again: Would you all feel the same outrage towards megansmomma if the poster of the ad had NOT been a member of YT? I don't think so.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Thanks you......but it was stated previously, they are using my innocence to "teach me a lesson" and "show me how it feels".

Yea I know but that is meanness in itself right?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by chachi

Yea I know but that is meanness in itself right?

Well that's my opinion that it's mean and doing done in a retaliatory manner to bully my into not speaking up about something that I saw as wrong. They bashed and attacked me after I posted the original thread until it was closed, then Baby Blessing started a 2nd thread aimed at me and they their attack continued which was eventually closed.and now they have continued on with a 3rd thread. But like it's been said in the past......birds of a feather. I hope that by the time they are finished with their little game ALL OF YORKIETALK will see who is stepping forward in the defense of what has happened. I'm so glad that the original thread was linked back to this thread. It really makes things so much easier to follow the trail when someone is looking to buy a puppy.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Well that's my opinion that it's mean and doing done in a retaliatory manner to bully my into not speaking up about something that I saw as wrong. They bashed and attacked me after I posted the original thread until it was closed, then Baby Blessing started a 2nd thread aimed at me and they their attack continued which was eventually closed.and now they have continued on with a 3rd thread. But like it's been said in the past......birds of a feather. I hope that by the time they are finished with their little game ALL OF YORKIETALK will see who is stepping forward in the defense of what has happened. I'm so glad that the original thread was linked back to this thread. It really makes things so much easier to follow the trail when someone is looking to buy a puppy.

I agree there is an effort to control what someone views as inappropriate breeding practices and how they respond to it.

[BFar]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Well that's my opinion that it's mean and doing done in a retaliatory manner to bully my into not speaking up about something that I saw as wrong. They bashed and attacked me after I posted the original thread until it was closed, then Baby Blessing started a 2nd thread aimed at me and they their attack continued which was eventually closed.and now they have continued on with a 3rd thread. But like it's been said in the past......birds of a feather. I hope that by the time they are finished with their little game ALL OF YORKIETALK will see who is stepping forward in the defense of what has happened. I'm so glad that the original thread was linked back to this thread. It really makes things so much easier to follow the trail when someone is looking to buy a puppy.

"They?" I only posted my after I saw horrible things said to a person AFTER she said she was sick. I mean, geez, she got on here and described how sick she was... how pitiful is that? Further, I don't know her at all but I've seen her website and I would not buy a dog from Dee because her dogs are just not my type, let's just leave it at that to be NICE. It's not that hard (for me).

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by BFar

"They?" I only posted my after I saw horrible things said to a person AFTER she said she was sick. I mean, geez, she got on here and described how sick she was... how pitiful is that? Further, I don't know her at all but I've seen her website and I would not buy a dog from Dee because her dogs are just not my type, let's just leave it at that to be NICE. It's not that hard (for me).

Why is she placing ads if she is sick? How can she interview potential puppy owners if she's sick? Not only that, she also said she would sell the dog with open registration if she was "comfortable" with someone. How can she interview a potential breeder if she's sick? How can she tell if a 5-week-old dog should be bred? People who make excuses for this behavior speak volumes for their own breeding practices.