Yes, she is a groomer according to one of her posts

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ml#post3401222

Apparently you haven't heard of break away collars and I never said I performed surgery on my dog. Also, the breeders do not allow you to change the chip info. to your name or even add the new owners name. That's the problem!! Seems to me like what another lady said, a great way for breeders to get a free dog to resale or add to their breeding program. And what happens if the breeder dies? Who gets your dog then! No proof that you are the owner. Out of luck I guess!

You implied that you removed the chip.

"Also, found that I couldn't have my vet remove it"

" they can remove the chip themselves, any one can do it regardless of what others will tell you."

"After the chip "mysteriously fell out"

Hmmmm, the chip mysteriously fell out of your dog?? As my mother would say "pull the other one, it's got bells on it"

There is no way a chip can "mysteriously fall out". I suspect it was cut it out of your dog. No, I would not call this surgery...I would call it mutilation. So very sad. :(

You actually would cut a microchip out of your little dog and call it "not at all detrimental"? I had a tiny growth taken from my face by a plastic surgeon under completely sterile conditions but the local did not "take" appropriately and it hurt so badly I cried! I would have screamed but I didn't want to scare the surgeon and cause him to jerk his hand! Plus, that operated site was painful for several days and it was just on the skin surface - not buried beneath as a microchip. Oh, I would call surgery on one's own dog to remove a microchip abuse! Are you sure you aren't just angry and saying mean things just to shock?!?! You would not really take a knife to your little pet would you?

I have postings in the 1000s, I am NOT a breeder. I bought my yorkie from a breeder, was already implanted but NOT registered until I did so. My name is on my dogs chip. It is so small, and it doesn't bug me that I can feel it each time I pet her since she is skinny. I can't believe you are using the excuse that you can feel it as wanting the chip taken out. What was the real reason?

Chips can cause cancer? Show some stats. What are the chances? Of all the people on YT who have chipped dogs, not ONE has said the chip caused them cancer. You know what many have said HAS caused them cancer? Not getting their bitches spayed.

and one more thing you seem to keep side stepping...
how did the chip "mysteriously fall out"????

until you clear that up, it is overwhelmingly read and understood as YOU CUT IT OUT YOURSELF, which is animal abuse plain and simple. If you didn't, you should explain yourself. Otherwise, it'd be hard for me to see why someone would want to get their dog groomed by a butcher.

:thumbup:That is sick cutting a microchip out and you havent denied it so I believe you did it. Animal cruelty pure and simple!!!!!!!

Well, Ashley, I am trying not to read your drivel! Hmmm can you substantiate your remarks that the ownders of the site have warned of such attacks (as you put it) and you say you will continue to be the voice of reason! Excuse me while I have a good laugh!
You joined in January according to your profile. Seems to me that you may have been on here earlier under a different user name to have been a "voice of reason" Because under your current user name you have only 18 posts at this time and none of them are being a voice of reason.

I have my dogs chipped. I am not a breeder. And members cannot blackball other members. You say those with other opinions are "bullies" well there is another word for people who come on to stir up trouble - we call them trolls. Look it up in the dictionary and you just may see your picture there.

Hmmm. I'm sensing an agenda that has little to do with actual microchipping.

Ewww. You cut the microchip out of your dog? Really? :thumbdown

Nah - it "mysteriously fell out":rolleyes:

You too? LOL.


Microchips are made of a biocompatible glass. The metals inside are hermetically sealed. There is NO reputable scientific data even remotely suggesting what this person says is true. There is a heck of a lot more data that proves that dogs who aren't ID'd end up being euthanized in shelters.

Properly implanted chips don't "mysteriously fall out" without a lot of outside assistance. The fact that someone would assist in that would send up a huge red flag to me about using them as a groomer. I would be afraid of what else they might be doing to dogs.

I have a seriously hard time believing that a commercial breeder (puppy mills) would want their dogs chipped or that, if chipped, they wouldn't want the information switched over to the new owner's name. What I do find more likely is that a new owner wouldn't want to pay the $20 transfer fee that most chips charge for changing info. Either that or they had a reason to want to obscure where the dog was obtained from.

Things that make you go "hmmmm"....

From a medical/nursing perspective, I'd be interested in understanding how a microchip fell out of the body. How did it happen?

My thoughts too... I have even posted that I thought so!!! It may be just a couple of people using different names.
Admin could check ip addresses.....

Originally Posted by 816Tuesday
To all you newbies out there reading this drivel, check the nasty women who are attacking me for not agreeing with cancer causing microchips. You will see that they are a bunch of breeders, who chipping helps. And look at the number of posts listed by their names, usually in the thousands. They think they run this show and they will black ball anyone who thinks differently than they do. I think you call them bullies. The owners of this site have warned of such attacks on others because of their opinions. Many have quit using this site due to such childish aggression. Well they don't scare me and I will continue to be the voice of reason among a pack of wolves. My original point was: I believe breeders have their own agenda for micro chipping their names on your pet. Microchips do cause cancer, and it is not at all detrimental to remove a small grain of rice, as they like to call it, from your pets skin. It is your pet, don't let anyone bully you into treating it as you see fit! I am sure I will continue to get many immature and spiteful comments. Let the record stand for itself, who is being attacked for asking a question and having an opinion? Real mature of all of you. Hope you think you told me good! It makes you all so mad because you know I am right and you don't want others to know the truth. For everyone else who commented on this site that they don't like microchips and breeders putting their stamp on a puppy they own, good for you and don't let the bullies tell you are wrong. Have a wonderful evening everyone.

The Bolded out comments on your above statement are very telling.
However, based on your past posts, which are by no means reasonable, but questions and statements of one that is completely unknowledgable.

It has been stated that many breeders do microchip their pups but, the pups are registered by their new families. Do I think the breeder's information should be attached to the chip info, yes. The micro-chip register corporations are indeed in their infancy stages. I would hope that as it evolves it will make every breeder/owner responsible for those pups they produce or own.

What you have sited here is against the law....very telling of your character.

Sorry JeanieK to go OT here but wanted to address 816Tuesday's misconceptions regarding why breeders microchip.

USDA (commercial) breeders are required to keep identification records of their stock. Collars, tattoos or microchips are used. Microchips are inexpensive and permanent, tattoos are more time-consuming and difficult to do, collars (little paper tags commercial breeders use) aren't reliable, as they tend to deteriorate, fall off, get lost, etc. The only "microchip agenda" with commercial breeders is; they are supposed to comply with USDA regulations and it's the cheapest, easiest method.

I don't know if most U.S. exhibitor/breeders microchip but if so, would imagine it is so any puppy they've sold (if lost) is identifiable.

I don't believe there is any microchipping "breeder agenda" but do have my thoughts regarding your agenda. :rolleyes: You advocating microchip removal by pet owners is not only dangerous, it is sick!:mad:

Yes it is.

Thank you Wylie's Mom for deleting this instructional on how to abuse an innocent animal. That post just turned my stomach. :mad:

Please do not post instructions on how to perform at-home surgical interventions on a dog.

Removing *any* foreign body that is INSIDE OF a dog should be done by a Vet.

Not to mention that the way in which you described the "ease" of removing this item from the body, doesn't even make physiological sense in terms of how the skin works and how scar tissue is developed. It would not be 'painless' or safe. Please do not post this information again.

Thank you I saw it and was worried someone would try it. Thanks for removing it

Thanks Ann.....The instructions posted were so upsetting.

Both of my pups are chipped, I have never been able to feel my Shi-Poohs but can feel Maci's. At her 12 week visit I asked my vet why I could feel it and if it was normal where it was placed. He said it was a bit high up, either it was implanted there or it moved but it is harmless and as she ages and puts some weight on we won't know it is there. I was able to transfer ownership with a minimal fee for both of my dogs. I feel it is a benefit for all. I read the deleted instructions and felt sick just reading it.

They did not do such a thing~that is just disturbing beyond words.:mad: I work in Surgery every day and cannot even imagine how at home removal of a microchip would even be possible. Something the size of a grain of rice implanted into a muscle would be EXCRUCIATINGLY painful to be removed without general surgery! It wouldn't even be acceptable to do under local because of the involvment of muscles. :thumbdown The thought this is even remotely humane is sickening. This has to be a totally made up lie just to get us riled up~it has to be! There must be an audience sitting and reading, giggling over how upset they are making everyone. I REFUSE to believe this person really did this or that they are on YT to do anything except cause upset. :thumbdown

Have been reading more web sites that state that the AKC requires your dog to be microchiped in order to register it. I called AKC at 919-233-9767 and asked three questions: Does AKC require a microchip in order to register a dog? Are breeders required by AKC to microchip any of their dogs, breeders or puppies? Does AKC require a dog to have a microchip in order to be shown? The lady said NO to all three questions.

I bet if you had asked them if they supported dogs being mutilated by do-it-yourself microchip removals the answer would have been a resounding NO, too.

This is the AKC requirements for dog identification. The latest I could find was a 2005 version. The great breeders out there might know of a more recent update.

http://www.akc.org/pdfs/record_keeping.pdf

you are the most screwed up human being i have ever heard of! it makes me sooo angry to know that you live right here in my own state. i hope i never meet you and i better never come across your grooming salon or i will personally file animal abuse against you amoung other things that i would have to say to you.

Thank You!!
 

"Also, found that I couldn't have my vet remove it"

" they can remove the chip themselves, any one can do it regardless of what others will tell you."

"After the chip "mysteriously fell out"


Thank You very much 816Tuesday, you have helped me out. I would never have thought of someone doing this to their beloved best friend but now I know some wacko's out there might do it. Hopefully my screening process would have weeded you out before you ever got one of my babies but just in case I will be changing my puppy contract and including that any microchips placed must stay in place and if removed will void the contract and allow the puppy to be taken back by me because it would be considered animal abuse. No one is forced to buy a puppy from any breeder, if you don't like the way a breeder takes care of their puppies (i.e. placing microchips) please feel free to go somewhere else.
Teresa

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Honestly, if a breeder cared enough to microchip the dog for you. I'd say that's a plus! I microchipped my babies and haven't had any problems with it. No, I don't feel it...sometimes I even wonder if it's there! I don't know what you're (816 Tuesday) talking about, but my registry allows you to update information. That is SICK that you cut the chip out of your dog :eek:...I can't imagine it being painless... :confused: Gosh, I can't believe this!!

just seeing this post and WOW!
i have a freaking headache! i cannot imagine, and don't want to! i'm glad i value my membership on YT as it is encouraging me to be more "lady like" and keep my mouth shut on what i really think!
i'd quote someone but we all know what i'm talking about, as i don't want to even read anything that comes out of their mouth again!! it amazes me at what some people will stoop to, thinking they are going to get a point across or justify their disgusting behavior! i think your baby would be better off getting away from you, seeing that now there would be no way to trace it back to you unless you've pulled some other disgusting stunts. and from a common sense stand point, you're a "groomer" can you tell me you have never cut a dogs nails too short to cause them pain? do you think that's even comparable to what you've done? you disgust me...along with others i'm sure, just as well as your innocent baby.
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