Originally Posted by Teresamag (Post 3333027)

Oh, I totally agree. Sometimes people just don't abide by the contract, that's why I have them write the check and I mail the in registration paper (or do it online when the person is picking up the puppy) to make sure it gets done and to make sure my name stays on as second contact. The only reason I put their names first and my name second is because sometimes people move and/or change phone numbers and forget to notify me. If their dog ends up found in a shelter (not turned in) or is taken to a vets office the shelter or office can usually reach the owners and if they can't reach them first they can reach me as second contact person. My puppies may be several states away and it would be better for the puppy if their owner can come pick them up immediately instead of me trying to get them several states away and maybe not being able to reach the owners.

If the dog is an owner turn in at an animal shelter the shelter will not scan for a microchip (because the owner is turning the dog in) so you would not be notified anyway. Unfortunate but true.

I buy my microchips from Avid in bulk (I think it's 25 in each package but I haven't bought any in about 2 years) which makes each chip about $8 each. I also had my vet teach me how to insert them and with his permission I do them at home when the puppy is about 10 weeks old that way the little insertion point has time to totally heal up by the time they go to their new homes. The insertion process just takes a second to be done by me - a person the puppy is familiar with and then he isn't stressed out by a stranger. It's a very easy process and then I don't have to risk taking my puppies into the vet's office where they might be exposed to diseases (they already go at least once for a puppy check up I don't like to risk taking them in too many times). I also register the puppies with AKC's CAR (Canine Animal Recovery) which is $17.50 if done online or $19.50 if done by mail.
Teresa

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3336107)

You make some very good points. So there are pros and cons either way.

But if registered to the new owner, and the owner wants to be rid of the dog and surrenders them to a shelter, the brweeder would never know. some owners do not stay in contact with the breeder.

The registries should have the breeders name on a password protected account, not to ever be changed, and to always be notified. Then have the owners name and a second contact persoln.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3336107)

The registries should have the breeders name on a password protected account, not to ever be changed, and to always be notified. Then have the owners name and a second contact person.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3333434)

Nancy I understand what you are saying, and I am not against microchipping.

But it is like gun conterol laws, the bad guys are not going to register their guns.

The same goes for a breeder who would kill and dump his dogs. If he is going to kill the he could also cut out the microchip.

Originally Posted by 816Tuesday (Post 3470889)

Why do you think a commercial breeder will pay extra money to have the puppies they intend to sell microchipped? I just bought a $1500 puppy with a microchip stuck in his back. Every time I pet him, I could feel this hard lump under his skin. I looked up info. on Avid and other chip sellers. Found that I could not change my dogs chip to my name, the breeder had to do it. Also, found that I couldn't have my vet remove it, because it wasn't registered to me. I read quite a bit of info. about the chip and cancer. Common sense tells you that any foreign object put in the body can cause problems. What happens when you get a splinter in your finger? Your body sends white blood cells to fight it, like a virus. Some give up, others try to contain the foreign body by making scar tissue. I also read that it is illegal for you to remove the chip yourself, even if you are the owner. No offense, but I don't think anyone should have the right to make the decision of putting a chip into a puppy they intend to sell, unless the new owner wants it. Also, if someone is going to steal your dog, they can remove the chip themselves, any one can do it regardless of what others will tell you. My new pup had a slightly elevated temp. at his first vet appointment but nothing was wrong with him. After the chip "mysteriously fell out":eek:, my little boy is 100% fine and I no longer have to feel that thing in his back when I pet him. So, why do breeders, commercial and otherwise really pay to microchip puppies?

Originally Posted by 816Tuesday (Post 3470889)

Why do you think a commercial breeder will pay extra money to have the puppies they intend to sell microchipped? I just bought a $1500 puppy with a microchip stuck in his back. Every time I pet him, I could feel this hard lump under his skin. I looked up info. on Avid and other chip sellers. Found that I could not change my dogs chip to my name, the breeder had to do it. Also, found that I couldn't have my vet remove it, because it wasn't registered to me. I read quite a bit of info. about the chip and cancer. Common sense tells you that any foreign object put in the body can cause problems. What happens when you get a splinter in your finger? Your body sends white blood cells to fight it, like a virus. Some give up, others try to contain the foreign body by making scar tissue. I also read that it is illegal for you to remove the chip yourself, even if you are the owner. No offense, but I don't think anyone should have the right to make the decision of putting a chip into a puppy they intend to sell, unless the new owner wants it. Also, if someone is going to steal your dog, they can remove the chip themselves, any one can do it regardless of what others will tell you. My new pup had a slightly elevated temp. at his first vet appointment but nothing was wrong with him. After the chip "mysteriously fell out", my little boy is 100% fine and I no longer have to feel that thing in his back when I pet him. So, why do breeders, commercial and otherwise really pay to microchip puppies?