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BamaFan121s · 10-09-2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by felicity1008

i pity you. the op certainly made her decision which was best for her and no one else.

I'm not criticizing the OP or her decision. It may not have been the one I'd chosen, but I still think she's very responsible in her preparation. How many times do I have to say that?

I'm not sure why you seem hell bent on making it seem like I'm criticizing her.

manolos mom · 10-09-2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by felicity1008;3294175[B

]i pity you[/B]. the op certainly made her decision which was best for her and no one else.

No need to get nasty...Bama is just stating her opinion. If you dont like it then SEE YA...

Remember this is an OPEN forum.

Poshible · 10-09-2010, 12:01 PM

I did not find anything rude in what Bama said. In fact she even stated that you have gone above and beyond what most people would have done. I think you just hit a sore spot for most people because "accidental" breeding is risky, for your little girl, and for the puppies. You just never know what is going to happen...too often it turns out tragic. She is defending the integrity of the breed in my opinion. Just that breeding should be done after multiple tests to ensure health...

Would YOU buy a puppy from your litter knowing the circumstances? It was stated that it was, and should have been, preventable. That is not an attack toward you, or your decision. Not an attack that I saw anyway.

Rachael x · 10-09-2010, 01:20 PM

Sometimes posts similar to those which Bama posted can seem nasty or sharp, but in actual fact they are the opposite.
Posts like Bama's are probably the most caring posts here because all she is trying to do is save you from possible heartache.

YorkieRose · 10-09-2010, 01:22 PM

It is not uncommon for a vet to inquire about the breeding when a health issue arises..

BamaFan121s · 10-09-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Poshible

I did not find anything rude in what Bama said.

Eh....I don't think it's the OP that took an issue with what I said. I think it's just someone else trying to make it something it's not. The almighty power of suggestion. It's a common go-to tactic when trying to draw attention away from one's self.

Brooklynn · 10-09-2010, 04:57 PM

I'm not going to criticize the OP but I will say I do not support her decision. I still believe the right decision is to spay the bitch. Even for as long as I've been in yorkies and it's not as long as some that are on YT I would never let a bitch have puppies at that young age and bred to her brother. It's just not the risk I'm willing to take for the puppies life nor the bitch's life. Now that is "prolife"

Donna

BanditSocks2 · 10-09-2010, 05:22 PM

Good luck with having the puppies! When are they due?

TreasuresIsland · 10-09-2010, 05:26 PM

hi to all! I want to start off by sending my deepest apologies to those especially bama as my eyes have been opened more on the breeder aspect and the eyes of a true breeder with true passion to the breed. Most of you if not all, have lots of experience that i just do not have and trust me when i say i do and have listened to all advice even if that is not the route i have chosen. I cant continue to read and feel as if i may have started some type of drama based off my postings and i am not ok with that. I am still open to all advice on whelping to have a successful whelp etc. Although some may not agree with my decision of allowing my treasure to have her pups i understand but it is the route i chose based off my continuous strive to get as much knowledge and info and the ok from vet. I would like to continue to be able to ask for help if needed when pups are born etc and share the joy with all when they are here. I may not be experienced but i am willing ready and able to learn what i need to make this a successful whelping for the pups and treasure and i am willing to deal with whatever comes my way vet bills etc but in the mean time if anyone has anything that they do feel i should know considering that i am allowing her to have her pups please do not hesitate to let me know your advice etc. After all this is an open forum. Again i send my deepest apologies if i may have said wrong things and i so deeply wouldl ike to learn the great knowledge of the best and loyal and passionate breeders! lets just all hope that treasure's whelping turns out all well and all pups are born healthy and full of life! I want to share all of it with all of you here on yt. Btw, i felt her pups moving yesterday! It was amazing...even though i felt the same when i was pregnant lol.. Thanks to all again truly from the bottom of my heart!

gemy · 10-10-2010, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TreasuresIsland

hi to all! I want to start off by sending my deepest apologies to those especially bama as my eyes have been opened more on the breeder aspect and the eyes of a true breeder with true passion to the breed. Most of you if not all, have lots of experience that i just do not have and trust me when i say i do and have listened to all advice even if that is not the route i have chosen. I cant continue to read and feel as if i may have started some type of drama based off my postings and i am not ok with that. I am still open to all advice on whelping to have a successful whelp etc. Although some may not agree with my decision of allowing my treasure to have her pups i understand but it is the route i chose based off my continuous strive to get as much knowledge and info and the ok from vet. I would like to continue to be able to ask for help if needed when pups are born etc and share the joy with all when they are here. I may not be experienced but i am willing ready and able to learn what i need to make this a successful whelping for the pups and treasure and i am willing to deal with whatever comes my way vet bills etc but in the mean time if anyone has anything that they do feel i should know considering that i am allowing her to have her pups please do not hesitate to let me know your advice etc. After all this is an open forum. Again i send my deepest apologies if i may have said wrong things and i so deeply wouldl ike to learn the great knowledge of the best and loyal and passionate breeders! lets just all hope that treasure's whelping turns out all well and all pups are born healthy and full of life! I want to share all of it with all of you here on yt. Btw, i felt her pups moving yesterday! It was amazing...even though i felt the same when i was pregnant lol.. Thanks to all again truly from the bottom of my heart!

Dog Breeding - Your Questions Answered is found in the YT library and is a good read, with suggestions on whelping preparation, etc.

As the subject of whelping is a big one, it would be better to ask specific questions, of the experienced breeders here.

In your last vet visit, where your vet was speaking to the previous owners about lineage, did he also find out what health tests were done, and what health problems have occurred in this line? For a list of those health tests please see article referenced above. Specifically at this point is your bitch free of LP as well as her brother? Have they both been BAT tested? This gives you an idea of liver function. If not the brother certainly can be BAT tested right now. If both dogs have Luxating Patella, the risks are very high, that the pups will have LP. A manual physical exam by a good vet should be able to correctly assess for LP, but an Xray needs to be done and read by a specialist to appropriately grade the severity of it. Low graded LP usually doesn't negatively affect the quality of life for the pup/dog, but higher grades do, and may require surgery to fix the problem.
Eye Test: Has a cerf been done on bitch/sire, and how about their parents. Are they free of PRA? For an explanation of what this is, please see referenced article. This condition is inherited and will cause eventual blindness in the dog.

You might question why do these tests now? For me, my answer would be, forewarned is forearmed. It also means that there maybe things I can do proactively to avoid and or help my dogs, live happy and healthy lives. For example with LP Graded one or two, jumping off couches or chairs etc, wouldn't be allowed. I would probably not put them in sports which require good strong and aligned joints; such as agility, flyball, etc. I would look to engage the dogs in activities that strengthen the muscles of the legs. Underwater treadmill, swimming, are all great activities for this condition. I would be adding chondrotin and glucosamine in proper amounts to their food. As a breeder, it is my duty and responsibilty to the breed and to the future owners of my pups to do the best I can to only breed healthy good representatives of the breed.

The BAT test for the bitch will have to wait until after the weaning of the pups.

Labour: Were there any complications with labour in this dam's mom? Was a C section necessary?

Some more food for thought.

gemy · 10-10-2010, 04:13 AM

And on whelping, and other things that can go "wrong", this is a good read.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html

TreasuresIsland · 10-16-2010, 07:12 PM

My treasure has had her puppies yesterday morning 10/15/2010 2 boys and 1 girl! they all are fine and have been to vet. I am glad that i made the decision to allow her to have her pups! No problems giving birth at all!

gemy · 10-17-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TreasuresIsland

My treasure has had her puppies yesterday morning 10/15/2010 2 boys and 1 girl! they all are fine and have been to vet. I am glad that i made the decision to allow her to have her pups! No problems giving birth at all!

Congratulations on a safe and healthy whelp.

I'm sure you are busier than a one armed paper hanger right now, but as you get time, keep us updated. We love puppy pics

Woogie Man · 10-17-2010, 07:11 AM

Congratulations on a safe whelp. Looking back on the posts, I see where it was less than 2 weeks from your knowing she was pregnant and the birth of the babies. Given that, I understand your decision.

Best of luck with the babies and I wish the best for them. BTW, did the vet already do the tails? It looks that way in the photo.

Cares4Dogs · 10-17-2010, 07:21 AM

Oh my goodness. I'm so happy all went well. They are precious.

Be sure to keep the whelping box warm (85 degrees) and weigh them twice a day. One of my babies quit gaining after having tails and dew claws done and I had to supplement.

Your babies look great.

10-09-2010, 12:01 PM	#48
Poshible Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gridley, Ca, USA Posts: 150	I did not find anything rude in what Bama said. In fact she even stated that you have gone above and beyond what most people would have done. I think you just hit a sore spot for most people because "accidental" breeding is risky, for your little girl, and for the puppies. You just never know what is going to happen...too often it turns out tragic. She is defending the integrity of the breed in my opinion. Just that breeding should be done after multiple tests to ensure health... Would YOU buy a puppy from your litter knowing the circumstances? It was stated that it was, and should have been, preventable. That is not an attack toward you, or your decision. Not an attack that I saw anyway. __________________ *Linds*

10-09-2010, 01:20 PM	#49
Rachael x Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: England Posts: 3,751 Blog Entries: 3	Sometimes posts similar to those which Bama posted can seem nasty or sharp, but in actual fact they are the opposite. Posts like Bama's are probably the most caring posts here because all she is trying to do is save you from possible heartache. __________________ Rachael & Poppy

10-09-2010, 04:57 PM	#52
Brooklynn Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 4,280	I'm not going to criticize the OP but I will say I do not support her decision. I still believe the right decision is to spay the bitch. Even for as long as I've been in yorkies and it's not as long as some that are on YT I would never let a bitch have puppies at that young age and bred to her brother. It's just not the risk I'm willing to take for the puppies life nor the bitch's life. Now that is "prolife" Donna __________________ Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers www.brooklynnyorkies.com

10-10-2010, 04:13 AM	#56
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	And on whelping, and other things that can go "wrong", this is a good read. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

10-17-2010, 07:11 AM	#59
Woogie Man Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,564	Congratulations on a safe whelp. Looking back on the posts, I see where it was less than 2 weeks from your knowing she was pregnant and the birth of the babies. Given that, I understand your decision. Best of luck with the babies and I wish the best for them. BTW, did the vet already do the tails? It looks that way in the photo. __________________ ORANGUTANS ARE DYING FOR THE SAKE OF CHEAP PALM OIL....AND YOU USE IT!!! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ani...m-oil-you.html

10-09-2010, 01:22 PM	#50
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	It is not uncommon for a vet to inquire about the breeding when a health issue arises..

10-09-2010, 05:22 PM	#53
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	Good luck with having the puppies! When are they due?

10-09-2010, 05:26 PM	#54
TreasuresIsland Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bushkill,PA Posts: 15	hi to all! I want to start off by sending my deepest apologies to those especially bama as my eyes have been opened more on the breeder aspect and the eyes of a true breeder with true passion to the breed. Most of you if not all, have lots of experience that i just do not have and trust me when i say i do and have listened to all advice even if that is not the route i have chosen. I cant continue to read and feel as if i may have started some type of drama based off my postings and i am not ok with that. I am still open to all advice on whelping to have a successful whelp etc. Although some may not agree with my decision of allowing my treasure to have her pups i understand but it is the route i chose based off my continuous strive to get as much knowledge and info and the ok from vet. I would like to continue to be able to ask for help if needed when pups are born etc and share the joy with all when they are here. I may not be experienced but i am willing ready and able to learn what i need to make this a successful whelping for the pups and treasure and i am willing to deal with whatever comes my way vet bills etc but in the mean time if anyone has anything that they do feel i should know considering that i am allowing her to have her pups please do not hesitate to let me know your advice etc. After all this is an open forum. Again i send my deepest apologies if i may have said wrong things and i so deeply wouldl ike to learn the great knowledge of the best and loyal and passionate breeders! lets just all hope that treasure's whelping turns out all well and all pups are born healthy and full of life! I want to share all of it with all of you here on yt. Btw, i felt her pups moving yesterday! It was amazing...even though i felt the same when i was pregnant lol.. Thanks to all again truly from the bottom of my heart!

10-17-2010, 07:21 AM	#60
Cares4Dogs Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 975	Oh my goodness. I'm so happy all went well. They are precious. Be sure to keep the whelping box warm (85 degrees) and weigh them twice a day. One of my babies quit gaining after having tails and dew claws done and I had to supplement. Your babies look great.