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Shasha 08-30-2010 04:33 PM
Why wont they tie??? Honey-Bunny Update
 
Hi all..hope this post finds you well. x
My Stud dog has had a bitch to serve today,,,, she is 11 days into her cycle, 4 years old, a bit on the podgy side. This morning she is standing for him, but he 'missed matched'.... she came back 7 hours later and he just cant penetrate her???? Any thoughts or suggestions what could be the problem?
I didnt want to tire Buddy out so after 45 mins i said lets leave it till tomorrow and ill bring my Stud to them......do u think her age and podgeness is the reason?
Honey-Bunny Update - Doing really well in her new home, a Pink Princess with attitude ive been informed!... Waiting for some pictures which i will post.
Stella RIP....never forgotten.
I await your replies
Thanks
Ann-Marie

felicity1008 09-01-2010 03:01 AM
with my one girl ...my boy is a perfect match. he is 3 1/2 lbs and small. Felicity is 5. he finds his own way. My other Daisey is 7lbs and tall. not too compatible. So i have to help him by bending her down. I also had to place may hand underneath her to guide him. then he was a happy boy..hehehe. Felicity is due between the 11th and the 16th of September. Daisey is due between the 25th and the 31st. We just had Felicity xtrayed. they see three babies right now. i will have an ultrasound done next week. Hubby is a horse breeder and trainer so has access to vets daily... Good luck with stud man!

yorkie_mama22 09-01-2010 04:58 AM
I'm not a yorkie breeder but isn't 4 and 5 getting a bit too old to be breeding?

especially for a first breeding??

speleogirl37 09-01-2010 05:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 3258142)
I'm not a yorkie breeder but isn't 4 and 5 getting a bit too old to be breeding?

especially for a first breeding??
I just recently read on here somewhere...please correct me if I'm wrong..."if a dog isn't breed by 3 yrs old, then it shouldn't be breed." 5 yrs seems to be when breeders retire their dogs.

RachelandSadie 09-01-2010 05:15 AM
:thumbdownyou people make me sick

shodanusmc 09-01-2010 05:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasha (Post 3256754)
Hi all..hope this post finds you well. x
My Stud dog has had a bitch to serve today,,,, she is 11 days into her cycle, 4 years old, a bit on the podgy side. This morning she is standing for him, but he 'missed matched'.... she came back 7 hours later and he just cant penetrate her???? Any thoughts or suggestions what could be the problem?
I didnt want to tire Buddy out so after 45 mins i said lets leave it till tomorrow and ill bring my Stud to them......do u think her age and podgeness is the reason?
Honey-Bunny Update - Doing really well in her new home, a Pink Princess with attitude ive been informed!... Waiting for some pictures which i will post.
Stella RIP....never forgotten.
I await your replies
Thanks
Ann-Marie
That must be it, he did not care for her appearance.

Beamers Mom 09-01-2010 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasha (Post 3256754)
Hi all..hope this post finds you well. x
My Stud dog has had a bitch to serve today,,,, she is 11 days into her cycle, 4 years old, a bit on the podgy side. This morning she is standing for him, but he 'missed matched'.... she came back 7 hours later and he just cant penetrate her???? Any thoughts or suggestions what could be the problem?
I didnt want to tire Buddy out so after 45 mins i said lets leave it till tomorrow and ill bring my Stud to them......do u think her age and podgeness is the reason?
Honey-Bunny Update - Doing really well in her new home, a Pink Princess with attitude ive been informed!... Waiting for some pictures which i will post.
Stella RIP....never forgotten.
I await your replies
Thanks
Ann-Marie
If the bitch hasn't been bred before, 4 years is a little too late.
The bitch should come to the stud, you shouldn't be taking your stud to her.

BamaFan121s 09-01-2010 06:35 AM
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown

Ladymom 09-01-2010 06:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3258213)
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown
:thumbup: Well said.

PandaGirl 09-01-2010 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelandSadie (Post 3258152)
:thumbdownyou people make me sick
:thumbup: :D

bellemarie 09-01-2010 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasha (Post 3256754)
Hi all..hope this post finds you well. x
My Stud dog has had a bitch to serve today,,,, she is 11 days into her cycle, 4 years old, a bit on the podgy side. This morning she is standing for him, but he 'missed matched'.... she came back 7 hours later and he just cant penetrate her???? Any thoughts or suggestions what could be the problem?
I didnt want to tire Buddy out so after 45 mins i said lets leave it till tomorrow and ill bring my Stud to them......do u think her age and podgeness is the reason?
Honey-Bunny Update - Doing really well in her new home, a Pink Princess with attitude ive been informed!... Waiting for some pictures which i will post.
Stella RIP....never forgotten.
I await your replies
Thanks
Ann-Marie

as everyone else has stated, shes too old, her extra weight will not help at all and may cause Serious probloems during pregnancy and birth- i'd be advising the bitches owner to spay her girl rather than risk losing her... you know how difficult that is to deal with.

i am very glad honey-bunny is doing so well!

chachi 09-01-2010 09:15 AM
She is too old you should know that

yorkie_mama22 09-01-2010 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3258213)
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown

WOW unbelievable!! :mad::mad::eek:

shodanusmc 09-01-2010 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3258370)
She is too old you should know that
That is what they told my Mom, and yet, here I am. She was 21.

Reese1 09-01-2010 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3258213)
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown

I agree! :thumbup::thumbup:

Shasha 09-01-2010 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 3258142)
I'm not a yorkie breeder but isn't 4 and 5 getting a bit too old to be breeding?

especially for a first breeding??
sorry she is 3.5 years old!...i thought maybe a little too old,but have been to the vets with my friend who owns the bitch and he said she was in good condition,fit and healthly to breed.

Shasha 09-01-2010 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by speleogirl37 (Post 3258150)
I just recently read on here somewhere...please correct me if I'm wrong..."if a dog isn't breed by 3 yrs old, then it shouldn't be breed." 5 yrs seems to be when breeders retire their dogs.
she ISNT 4/5 ..she is 3.5 years old and fit!

Shasha 09-01-2010 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beamers Mom (Post 3258184)
If the bitch hasn't been bred before, 4 years is a little too late.
The bitch should come to the stud, you shouldn't be taking your stud to her.
She came to me first!!!.... and i took him to her the 2nd time where there was no problems and the mating took place with a Tie!!! ...we dont all follow
rules... we look at our dogs attitude... she was a different dog in her own home,more relaxed and settled OK!!!!

manolos mom 09-01-2010 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3258213)
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown
:thumbup::thumbup:

Mardelin 09-01-2010 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3258213)
I honestly cannot understand this! Already this year, you have had two litters, both that presented you with serious problems and one that resulted in the loss of your female...just months ago. Based on the questions you consistantly ask, your knowledge regarding the breeding process seems minimal. I don't understand why on EARTH you are breeding at all right now? Give it a rest, work with a mentor and gain knowledge in all these areas you are consistantly unsure about then explore the option of breeding.

And yes, as others have alrady stated. 4 years old is TOO old for a female to be bred for the first time.

I hate seeing the members of YT being used as a crutch in situations like this to guide people who have not done their research through the breeding process. This is wrong!:thumbdown
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 3258481)
WOW unbelievable!! :mad::mad::eek:
Sorry that you disagree with Bama's statement. Any person that has any knowledge of breeding knows breeding a female of 4 years for the first time is putting her life in jeaporady.

It is apparent that you approve of putting dog's life in peril. And that is just what the OP has done twice. Yet she continues to come back and request assistance from YT members. If we continue to give assistance we are only promoting her breeding practices. I don't think YT members want to be a party to animal cruelty.

Bama's last paragraph rings loud and clear. There are people that know that because YT members will do anything to save a dogs life, they use their situations to manipulate YT members, knowing they will always come to the rescue if a dog's life is on the ledge.

manolos mom 09-01-2010 04:51 PM
Someone with all your experience 10 years of Breeding, should not be coming on YT and asking simple questions. JMO

speleogirl37 09-01-2010 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasha (Post 3256754)
Hi all..hope this post finds you well. x
My Stud dog has had a bitch to serve today,,,, she is 11 days into her cycle, 4 years old, a bit on the podgy side. This morning she is standing for him, but he 'missed matched'.... she came back 7 hours later and he just cant penetrate her???? Any thoughts or suggestions what could be the problem?
I didnt want to tire Buddy out so after 45 mins i said lets leave it till tomorrow and ill bring my Stud to them......do u think her age and podgeness is the reason?
Honey-Bunny Update - Doing really well in her new home, a Pink Princess with attitude ive been informed!... Waiting for some pictures which i will post.
Stella RIP....never forgotten.
I await your replies
Thanks
Ann-Marie
Okay so you changed her age to 3 1/2...huge difference:rolleyes:

Rhetts_mama 09-01-2010 04:54 PM
It saddens me that posters get bashed for bringing up the sad situation the OP had this year. Yet it was the OP who referenced it in her title to this post.

I'm very happy that Honey-Bunny is in a good home. She had a rough start in life and deserved to be pampered to pieces.

RachelandSadie 09-01-2010 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3258863)
You fail to recognize that this is a public forum, and "NOT" your thread.

You state that you've been breeding for 10 years, however, your knowledge is of one that has never bred or whelped a litter. You come on YT to ask the most basic questions, that even non experienced YT members know the answers to.
YEP YEP YEP :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

OP do you ever wonder why you are the only "elephant in the room" dishing out curse words and fowl language??? At some point most people would wake up and realize that they are the one that is out of line and that they must be doing something wrong for this many people to continue to come on here and tell you that what you are doing is wrong....don't ask for professional advice and experience if you already think you know it all...either you don't know anything (which is apparent) and you come here for actual advice...or you already know everything (which you think you do) and we are just wasting our time with you....

pick one and stick to it because i'm sick and tired of watching you get on here asking professional breeders how you can ruin the yorkie breed and bring harm to yet another dog...it's cruel, ridiculous and we are not about to help you become a cruel and heartless breeder (even though i fear you are already there)

BamaFan121s 09-01-2010 05:24 PM
Excuse me, but YOU came HERE looking for advice. I am sorry if you are not getting the support you were looking for. I am sorry if you did not like the harsh reality of what I said, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people--be it you or someone else who may come along and read this thread. Breeding is serious business and not all sugar coated, as you yourself have seen. Therefore, I stand by my original statements and it appears that others are in agreement with me.

Ironically, you have insisted I refrain from posting, yet you took the initiative to name call and send me harassing PMs. Go figure.

Brooklynn 09-01-2010 05:42 PM
Hmmm 10 years breeding experience? All I'm going to say is I truly feel sorry for these poor yorkies...If you don't like the answers don't ask the question...this is a public thread and forum so expect answers even if it's not what you want to hear plain and simple!! After this past weekend I'm doing good holding my tongue on this thread...

Donna


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