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Rhetts_mama 05-23-2010 06:18 PM
Dumb question here, but doesn't a dog have to be registered with the AKC by 12 months of age?

tammy8833 05-23-2010 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3139370)
Dumb question here, but doesn't a dog have to be registered with the AKC by 12 months of age?
you can register late..just cost more

Rhetts_mama 05-23-2010 06:29 PM
Thanks, Tammy.

capt_noonie 05-23-2010 10:03 PM
Why do you want to breed him?
 
Come on, we all know why. :rolleyes: And none of those reasons that you are thinking of are good reasons.

Lizzie07 05-24-2010 03:08 AM
You still haven't answered any of our questions about why you want to breed the dog.

What color is the registration certificate you got with the dog? That will tell if the dog has a limited registration or not.

sashazx75 05-24-2010 09:37 AM
if he's not registered then i don't see a problem some breeders don't want you breeding cause they want to keep the same line or something but check out to see if there's any health problems in the background and if not i would say she should of made a contract up saying that and if there wasn't one made up then gl go for it

Nancy1999 05-24-2010 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sashazx75 (Post 3139868)
if he's not registered then i don't see a problem some breeders don't want you breeding cause they want to keep the same line or something but check out to see if there's any health problems in the background and if not i would say she should of made a contract up saying that and if there wasn't one made up then gl go for it
The breeder registers the litter, and the pet owner registers the dog. Many breeders hold off registration numbers until proof of neutering occurs, and this may be why the dog is registered. Good breeders sell on limited registration, but I can see a future where they will neuter before a dog is placed, some breeders are already doing this, but early neutering may not be good for the dog. This is really sad, but there are so many dishonest people in the world, I'm not sure how else they can protect the dog from being used to make money.

chachi 05-24-2010 10:00 AM
You should honor the breeders wishes and not breed the dog. Also he is pet quality and shoould not be bred. Just enjoy him as a pet

WinstonMom 05-24-2010 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sashazx75 (Post 3139868)
if he's not registered then i don't see a problem some breeders don't want you breeding cause they want to keep the same line or something but check out to see if there's any health problems in the background and if not i would say she should of made a contract up saying that and if there wasn't one made up then gl go for it
:confused::confused::confused: If the original breeder did not want the dog bred, I think those wishes should be honored. That is a matter of being ethical. I find this to be a strange comment from someone who has a litter on the way, or that is what I assume from your posts in the breeders forum. Makes me wonder!!!

YorkieMother 05-24-2010 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wiki (Post 3139111)
We have a new male purebred Yorkshire Terrier that we inherited. He is 4 years old and still has his testicles. We would like to breed him. We have his record papers, but he has not been registered with the AKC. We were able to get in touch with the breeder and were told that he is not supposed to be bred (as stated in verbal agreement with original purchaser). In the paperwork there is a field for designating whether or not it's OK to breed him, but it is not blacked out to indicate that he is not supposed to be bred. In other words, there is no documentation that confirms the breeders claim.

As new owners we would like to breed him, but have no idea how to proceed. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to properly move forward with breeding him, given the aforementioned situation.

Thanks for your help!
:animal-pa
Breeder does not want him bred should be enough to not do so. That said are you willing to trial him. title him AKC. get all his health checks to prove out he is a good candidate to bred. Pay to get him late registered and check his line to bred him. If so then I would go back to the breeder and ask if you do all that would they be comfortable to allow you to bred.
If you are looking to do this for the money you get out of studding and having pups...let me tel you money is not something that is easy to make making puppies the right way.

JL

BamaFan121s 05-24-2010 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sashazx75 (Post 3139868)
if he's not registered then i don't see a problem some breeders don't want you breeding cause they want to keep the same line or something but check out to see if there's any health problems in the background and if not i would say she should of made a contract up saying that and if there wasn't one made up then gl go for it
You seem a bit unclear as to why breeders would place dogs under the understanding that they are not to be used for breeding. The reason you give, 'because they want to keep the same line' doesn't even make any sense. :confused: What does that even mean?
Many breeders make the decision because they are concerned about the overall well being of the dog, even down the road as an adult. They don't want to see the health of their dogs put at risk by someone with no breeding knowledge deciding they will give it a go.

lovespandp 05-24-2010 03:10 PM
A troll indeed!

Lorraine 05-24-2010 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3139886)
You should honor the breeders wishes and not breed the dog. Also he is pet quality and shoould not be bred. Just enjoy him as a pet
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
often there is a very good reason for a breeder not wanting a dog or puppy they sold to be used for breeding.
The fact that the particular dog or puppy is just not quality that it should be used for breeding and passing on its genes is a very valid reason.
You would have to be active in the show rings to learn what is and what isn't a show quality and what should or shouldn't be used for breeding. And then of coure, there is the possibility of health issues that are not expressed in this dog but can potentially turn up in its offspring.
Breeding pet quality only moves the generations further and further away from looking like nice quality yorkies.

maggiesmom_2007 06-19-2010 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sashazx75 (Post 3139868)
if he's not registered then i don't see a problem some breeders don't want you breeding cause they want to keep the same line or something but check out to see if there's any health problems in the background and if not i would say she should of made a contract up saying that and if there wasn't one made up then gl go for it


Okay I need to say this, If the dog is not registered then there is a reason for it. The breeder when asked stated the dog was not to be bred. The reason some breeders don't want a dog being bred is not because" they want to keep the same lines or something" It's because the dog does not fit the standard for the breed. The only way the OP is going to find out if there are any genetic health problems with this dog is by asking the breeder which she probably won't do anyway because the breeder already stated the dog was not to be bred. Regardless if the contract was written or verbal the breeders wishes should still be abided by. I am going to leave this thread now before I say things that could possible get me banned.:mad::thumbdown

katienme2002 06-19-2010 02:26 PM
If the dog was sold for pet purposes only, then in my own opinion that's what he should stay..a pet. That was the breeders wishes apparently, and just because he still has his testicles doesn't mean he should be bred.


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