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cindib 05-05-2010 05:02 PM
have never breeded but have a few questions!
 
okay well this lady at work met my male and i came to fine that she has a femael and wanted to use my male to get her female pregnant i have never done this and i told her i will consider it but she keeps being persistant. she asks me how much i would charge and stuff like that. I have no idea as to what i would want or what is reasonable what are some of the things you do? my male is akc register and all that so i dont know what is reasonable?

Rad michelle 05-05-2010 07:56 PM
How big is he, does he hve a good coat? Good bite? How big were his parents? How old is he?

cindib 05-05-2010 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rad michelle (Post 3116646)
How big is he, does he hve a good coat? Good bite? How big were his parents? How old is he?
he is about 4 lb he has a good coat and good bite and his dad was around 3 1/2 pounds the mom was around 4 pounds. i am not looking to find anyone to mate him with really it just that a lady from work wants her female to have puppies but she doesnt have a male to mate her with and she wants mine. I just dont know what to ask of her like what to charge her and stuff like that

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 08:37 PM
Is her yorkie to standard? Is she a good example of the breed? Did you ask her why she wants to breed her female? Has she ever bred before?

cindib 05-05-2010 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3116718)
Is her yorkie to standard? Is she a good example of the breed? Did you ask her why she wants to breed her female? Has she ever bred before?
her female from what she said is like 3 lbs and she didnt say if her female was registered or not. i dont think she has ever bred before because she told me that this was her first female. She told me she just wanted puppies and that she was willing to pay.

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3116718)
Is her yorkie to standard? Is she a good example of the breed? Did you ask her why she wants to breed her female? Has she ever bred before?
Adding to that, have they both been tested for genetic diseases? STDs? Studding your dog out to a lady from work is more responsibility than just "how much should I charge?" You are willingly bringing more life into this world, your as responsible as the female's owner for every single puppy produced, whether healthy, sick, or special needs.

cindib 05-05-2010 09:20 PM
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Im sorry i forgot to add that she only showed me a picture because she couldnt bring the dog to work...of couse...this female is pretty small.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 09:22 PM
Oh my. 3 lbs is WAY too small to breed. She could die during the birthing process. Or need an emergency c section. Many times the stud's owner will get a stud fee or pick of the litter, but what if the female dies or if there is only one in the litter? I would not do it, esp since she is also inexperienced. Just politely tell her no.

Also, once your male has mated, he will be consumed by it. If you do not get him neutered after he has mated he will try to run away everytime there is a female in heat nearby. And by nearby I mean she could be miles away. He will also mark like crazy. He will no longer be your little baby. No amount of money would be worth it to me.

eta: my Uni is 5 lbs and I think she is super tiny. Now imagine one almost HALF her size!

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116793)
Im sorry i forgot to add that she only showed me a picture because she couldnt bring the dog to work...of couse...this female is pretty small.
If the female is 3 lbs, and I'm assuming she's full grown, she is way way WAY to small to breed. The owner of the female is putting her dog's life at risk just to have puppies.

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3116796)
Oh my. 3 lbs is WAY too small to breed. She could die during the birthing process. Or need an emergency c section. Many times the stud's owner will get a stud fee or pick of the litter, but what if the female dies or if there is only one in the litter? I would not do it, esp since she is also inexperienced. Just politely tell her no.

Also, once your male has mated, he will be consumed by it. If you do not get him neutered after he has mated he will try to run away everytime there is a female in heat nearby. And by nearby I mean she could be miles away. He will also mark like crazy. He will no longer be your little baby. No amount of money would be worth it to me.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::yeahthat:

fufufashions 05-05-2010 09:24 PM
:2popkorn: This thread is going to get interesting.

cindib 05-05-2010 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3116791)
Adding to that, have they both been tested for genetic diseases? STDs? Studding your dog out to a lady from work is more responsibility than just "how much should I charge?" You are willingly bringing more life into this world, your as responsible as the female's owner for every single puppy produced, whether healthy, sick, or special needs.
im pretty sure im not going to go through with it, my baby has been tested for everything genetics when he was younger and everything else recently because we are going to be traveling pretty soon and i did not want to take a sick doggy out. this women doesnt remember how much the parents of her dog weighs and she told me that her dog was about a year old. this is way too young to make a doggie have babies in my opinion.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 09:27 PM
maybe, maybe not. We've changed people's minds before. The op doesn't seem dead set on it, so I think we have a chance to educate here. :)

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116806)
im pretty sure im not going to go through with it, my baby has been tested for everything genetics when he was younger and everything else recently because we are going to be traveling pretty soon and i did not want to take a sick doggy out. this women doesnt remember how much the parents of her dog weighs and she told me that her dog was about a year old. this is way too young to make a doggie have babies in my opinion.
Good for you. If this woman doesn't even know how much her yorkie's parents weigh, what else does she not know?

I just wanted to share this story with you. Once I had a woman come into my shop (where Uni is every day with me). She told me she breeds yorkies and if I ever wanted to breed Uni she has a tiny stud. I said, "No I'm not going to breed Uni bc other than her not being that close to standard, she also has LP grade 3." You know what the woman responded with? "What's LP?" :eek: If she didn't know what LP is (luxating patella) she should NOT be breeding. But she was! :thumbdown

cindib 05-05-2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3116796)
Oh my. 3 lbs is WAY too small to breed. She could die during the birthing process. Or need an emergency c section. Many times the stud's owner will get a stud fee or pick of the litter, but what if the female dies or if there is only one in the litter? I would not do it, esp since she is also inexperienced. Just politely tell her no.

Also, once your male has mated, he will be consumed by it. If you do not get him neutered after he has mated he will try to run away everytime there is a female in heat nearby. And by nearby I mean she could be miles away. He will also mark like crazy. He will no longer be your little baby. No amount of money would be worth it to me.

eta: my Uni is 5 lbs and I think she is super tiny. Now imagine one almost HALF her size!
I have never mated my dog before and of course he is an inside dog but he still tries to run away every once in a long while and he marks everything. He does "try" to go at his stuffed animals thou. do you think this is the reason why he marks on everything.

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116811)
I have never mated my dog before and of course he is an inside dog but he still tries to run away every once in a long while and he marks everything. He does "try" to go at his stuffed animals thou. do you think this is the reason why he marks on everything.
It very well could be because marking is a territorial thing, and hormones kinda make them crazy. My boy was older when he was neutered and before he was, he tried to mark my entire living room. With the neuter and some training, he doesn't mark inside AT ALL, and if I wanted, I could walk him without a leash and he doesn't go anywhere, I don't though. But, the only reason he's so well behaved is because I keep up with the training and it's an everyday thing.

Oh, and I forgot to add, a checkup for a health certificate is very different from the genetic testing that is needed to clear a dog for breeding.

cindib 05-05-2010 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3116809)
Good for you. If this woman doesn't even know how much her yorkie's parents weigh, what else does she not know?

I just wanted to share this story with you. Once I had a woman come into my shop (where Uni is every day with me). She told me she breeds yorkies and if I ever wanted to breed Uni she has a tiny stud. I said, "No I'm not going to breed Uni bc other than her not being that close to standard, she also has LP grade 3." You know what the woman responded with? "What's LP?" :eek: If she didn't know what LP is (luxating patella) she should NOT be breeding. But she was! :thumbdown
Im sorry to hear about your fur baby, thats why i thought it was odd that this woman was asking me to let her mate them because her dog is way smaller then my dog and that is just asking for trouble right there.

miabellaamoure 05-05-2010 09:44 PM
Please do all of us who are involved in rescue a favor...leave the breeding to those that do it for the betterment of the breed and not just because they can!

Just in case you aren't aware...you could be contributing to the overwhelming population of dogs, Yorkie's specifically who end up being surrendered to rescues every day!

Worse yet, you could be aiding in the vicious cycle of all kinds of hereditary disorders that target toy breeds, too.

I urge you to reconsider putting your dog at risk and to please carefully weigh the consequences of your actions.

Even more important...NEUTER your dog!

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116811)
I have never mated my dog before and of course he is an inside dog but he still tries to run away every once in a long while and he marks everything. He does "try" to go at his stuffed animals thou. do you think this is the reason why he marks on everything.
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116814)
Im sorry to hear about your fur baby, thats why i thought it was odd that this woman was asking me to let her mate them because her dog is way smaller then my dog and that is just asking for trouble right there.
He may very well be marking bc he isn't neutered, but now imagine that after he mated, it would be way worse. They get obsessed with trying to find booty (just like human guys :rolleyes:). Going at it with stuffed toys is more of a dominance issue, and can also be trained out. But I personally think it's funny and cute and does not offend me. (Uni, my girl goes at it with her bed too btw:))

Yes, if she is just willy nilly asking anyone to mate with her girl, she IS asking for trouble. Perhaps you can read around here a bit and learn why it is so dangerous to breed for tinies, and you can educate her as well. Maybe she will change her mind. After I educated myself, I changed my mind as well. Yes, it did cross my mind at once to breed Uni. Not anymore!

cindib 05-05-2010 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3116813)
It very well could be because marking is a territorial thing, and hormones kinda make them crazy. My boy was older when he was neutered and before he was, he tried to mark my entire living room. With the neuter and some training, he doesn't mark inside AT ALL, and if I wanted, I could walk him without a leash and he doesn't go anywhere, I don't though. But, the only reason he's so well behaved is because I keep up with the training and it's an everyday thing.

Oh, and I forgot to add, a checkup for a health certificate is very different from the genetic testing that is needed to clear a dog for breeding.
My dog got the genetic testing some time ago because he got ill and we couldnt figure it out so our vet thought it might be something genetic we where lucky that it wasnt it was something that he caught at a dog park something new and a weird strain of. he got better and no damage left behing so we where very happy.
we let him lose in our yard and he doesnt leave, but i was told like a week ago that there was a female chihuahua living down the block that was not neutered so im guessing he was trying to go for her. the weird thing is that he doesnt mark inside he only marks outside. every little patch of grass.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116821)
My dog got the genetic testing some time ago because he got ill and we couldnt figure it out so our vet thought it might be something genetic we where lucky that it wasnt it was something that he caught at a dog park something new and a weird strain of. he got better and no damage left behing so we where very happy.
we let him lose in our yard and he doesnt leave, but i was told like a week ago that there was a female chihuahua living down the block that was not neutered so im guessing he was trying to go for her. the weird thing is that he doesnt mark inside he only marks outside. every little patch of grass.
As long as it's all outside, I think that's perfectly fine. Dogs need to mark. I see nothing wrong with them doing it outside.

cindib 05-05-2010 09:58 PM
Thank you all!
 
Thank you all for clearing everything up for me. This is something that is not right in many ways. I appreciate the help and will not be going through with this.

i just hope that nothing bad happens to that female dog, because of the owner desperation to breed her.

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116821)
My dog got the genetic testing some time ago because he got ill and we couldnt figure it out so our vet thought it might be something genetic we where lucky that it wasnt it was something that he caught at a dog park something new and a weird strain of. he got better and no damage left behing so we where very happy.
we let him lose in our yard and he doesnt leave, but i was told like a week ago that there was a female chihuahua living down the block that was not neutered so im guessing he was trying to go for her. the weird thing is that he doesnt mark inside he only marks outside. every little patch of grass.
I was just sharing. You're lucky, you didn't have to teach, mark inside= bad; mark outside= good and a happy mommy.

cindib 05-05-2010 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3116833)
I was just sharing. You're lucky, you didn't have to teach, mark inside= bad; mark outside= good and a happy mommy.
i love your avatar picture your dog looks alot like mine, i cant post a pic on the dang website every time i try it says its too big so i gave up, but they look identical specially in colors.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116837)
i love your avatar picture your dog looks alot like mine, i cant post a pic on the dang website every time i try it says its too big so i gave up, but they look identical specially in colors.
The pics have to be 600 pxls or less on the longer side. If you don't have the software on your computer now, check out this thread. There is a link for both pc and mac. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/off...size-pics.html

DvlshAngel985 05-05-2010 10:16 PM
I'm just lucky the lovely Priscilla caught that shot. All my favorite Kaji shots were captured by other people. :D
I'm thinking of becoming a donating member just so my avatar would get bigger.

capt_noonie 05-05-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3116842)
I'm just lucky the lovely Priscilla caught that shot. All my favorite Kaji shots were captured by other people. :D
I'm thinking of becoming a donating member just so my avatar would get bigger.
That alone was reason enough for me. j/k that was an added benefit.

red98vett 05-06-2010 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116831)
Thank you all for clearing everything up for me. This is something that is not right in many ways. I appreciate the help and will not be going through with this.

i just hope that nothing bad happens to that female dog, because of the owner desperation to breed her.
I just happened across this thread and never ever bred a dog - let alone a tiny one -

please tell this woman she's putting her female in danger by doing this - at 3 pounds she should be spayed and let to live her life as a pet only

this female could easily die under the care of someone so inexperienced

ps - good for you saying no !

Mardelin 05-06-2010 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cindib (Post 3116821)
My dog got the genetic testing some time ago because he got ill and we couldnt figure it out so our vet thought it might be something genetic we where lucky that it wasnt it was something that he caught at a dog park something new and a weird strain of. he got better and no damage left behing so we where very happy.
we let him lose in our yard and he doesnt leave, but i was told like a week ago that there was a female chihuahua living down the block that was not neutered so im guessing he was trying to go for her. the weird thing is that he doesnt mark inside he only marks outside. every little patch of grass.


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-answered.html

Glad you are leaning to not using your dog for stud. Please read the above information.

There is a lot of info in there. But, only touches on the basics of breeding.

What the article doesn't cover, is that the stud owner, though paid a fee, is just as responsible for the litter should anything go wrong. As the stud owner you should know how to whelp a litter and give assistance to the female's owner. Be willing to take in pups that cannot be placed or returned.

Keep in mind Genetic Testing encompasses many things. Tests that are done by Specialists; Eyes, Ears, x-rays of hips and knees; not only blood tests and bile acids.

So much responsibility goes into breeding, if done correctly.

BamaFan121s 05-06-2010 04:51 AM
I have nothing to add, because it seems like it's all been said already. :D

To the OP, please keep in mind that breeding is a VERY complex venture, not just deciding what to charge for stud service. I think that you are making the best decision at this time to not breed your male. (Especially with this lady because she seems really clueless.)
If it's something that you are considering in the future, then start researching NOW and find an experienced mentor to work with.

Welcome to YT! :)


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