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elenita 04-24-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cindy6755 (Post 3100258)
I am new to this site also. This really upsets me that you intentionally bred your Yorkie with a Min-Pin, when there are tons of dogs in shelters and rescues. You are not breeding to better the breed, you bred her because she had false pregnancies?,:confused: why not get her spayed, instead? I hope every thing goes well with the birth.
You have the right to your opinion but you do not know anything about me or my dog. I am not in it for the money nor did I breed her because of her false pregnancies. I will get her spayed after this litter. I have gotten animals from shelters in the past. Better the breed??? Why dont we better the owner?

gemy 04-24-2010 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by elenita (Post 3099548)
Yes, I did. I know many will not approve but it is done. I didnt think it would work because my Vet said she had irregular heat cycles and would be very difficult to determine when she is in heat. I had blood work done a year ago because I wanted to mate her with my lilttle guy. Good thing I didnt because he would of transferred his collapsed trachea to his pups. I was unable to find a male yorkie and we will have to put the little one to sleep soon:cry:. after watching her go through false pregnancy about 5xs over the years I really wanted her to have one litter. Im finding more and more info out and Im very nervous. The father is a well breed Min_Pin, my sister in laws dog. Even my Vet was surprised when he did the ultrasound. Any tips or info is more then welcome cs I am getting very nervous now. :)
Okay first for the litter of 7 does your vet at this point in time feel a C section is likely?

Get your whelping box in place and all the instruments and special food you will need. You will need that box even if there is a C section. There are threads on here for whelping supplies, as well as the whelping pudding, etc. Hopefully you have also put aside the money for all the tests the pups will need and the meds.

I do hope that you did all the health checks on your bitch and the sire. Given of course you had a small Yorkie with a collapsed trachea so you do know how important the health checks are.

I assume the little one you will have to put to sleep is the male Yorkie with the collapsed trachea?? I am so sorry that this is the only option for this boy.

elenita 04-24-2010 06:40 PM
getting ready
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3100375)
Okay first for the litter of 7 does your vet at this point in time feel a C section is likely?

Get your whelping box in place and all the instruments and special food you will need. You will need that box even if there is a C section. There are threads on here for whelping supplies, as well as the whelping pudding, etc. Hopefully you have also put aside the money for all the tests the pups will need and the meds.

I do hope that you did all the health checks on your bitch and the sire. Given of course you had a small Yorkie with a collapsed trachea so you do know how important the health checks are.

I assume the little one you will have to put to sleep is the male Yorkie with the collapsed trachea?? I am so sorry that this is the only option for this boy.
I went and got more things today. the only thing i couldnt find was the bleeding powder. I did not get the whelp box yet, Im still deciding on that one. I was going to get a large box and fill it with blankets n cut a hole so the Mom can get in and out. I was told a large plastic storage bin was good too, just put a hole in it. My Vet said c-section may happen but too early to tell. When should go back to Vet to get an xray? I am going by when she tied which was the only time ever so she is 34 days not 41days (as Vet said). I am watching her closely. Yes, I know how important health checks are :). I copied a list from another blog on the whelping supplies. The pudding I have to double check. How many times a day do I feed her boiled chicken and whole grain rice? What can I mix the cottage cheese with because she doesnt like it at all. As far as Cosmo(boy yorkie) I wish there was another way. I am trying to make him live as long as possible. He is very limited in activity so it is hard. Thank you

Ladymom 04-24-2010 08:32 PM
Your Yorkie with the collapsed trachea is so young to be euthanized. Have you consulted a specialist? In most cases it can be managed medically with medications and bronchial dilators. In extreme cases surgery can be done.

Tracheal Collapse

elenita 04-24-2010 09:06 PM
Cosmo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3100541)
Your Yorkie with the collapsed trachea is so young to be euthanized. Have you consulted a specialist? In most cases it can be managed medically with medications and bronchial dilators. In extreme cases surgery can be done.

Tracheal Collapse

No, I did not consult a specialist. Actually it was a realtives baby who I felt was not taking care of him so I took him. He has been in our home 2yrs now. I let the real owner keep him last year for a few months. When I went back I saw he was coughing sounding like a Duck and I knew something was wrong. That was when I took him back and took him to my Vet. He said his trachea had collapsed too close to his heart that he did not recommend surgery. Vet said he didnt even know of a Dr. who would perform this test because Cosmo (lil guy) chances of survival were so low. He sounded as if he had a greater chance in dieing from surgery then to limit his activities. He did give me pills (cough medicine) which does not help. Its hard to keep a lil dog who get excited over everything calm. We try our best though. Im glad my other yorkie (gezell) is very good with him. I do wish there was another way to keep him alive :cry: I dread the day because I will not be able to do it. he is ok for now. I found this out in October and he has been so much better here then with his other mother. :)

joeyandtanksmom 04-26-2010 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by elenita (Post 3099490)
Oh absolutely and I thank you for it. Its just some words are put to offend others and is not right. Teach me Teach me :D Ive owned 3 yorkies and never knew that. Thanks! Thats terrible just to get more money they say teacup.:mad:

your use of "teacup" didn't offend me, it's just not correct :) I was mistaken when I was sold a "miniature" yorkie when I got my Joey (I too was very naiive in the same way). However, I do not agree with breeding a yorkie to a min pin...what's that doing to better a breed? Well, since it's a mixed breed puppy, nothing has been done to better either breed. though they may be cute, I feel that it wasn't ethical to do. I don't feel angry, only sad for the dogs in shelters that will lose their lives because people adopt your little guys...know what I mean? I would ask that you consider spaying your little girl once she has had this litter...but that decision is up to you, as they are your dogs :)

elenita 04-30-2010 03:59 PM
:( Well we are down to 6 puppies...Gezell lost one. It is going through the absorption process. Just praying it does not infect the other puppies. I will find more out after her 3rd ultrasound on thursday..:(

JeanieK 04-30-2010 04:39 PM
Oh so sorry she lost one. Hoping the rest will be OK.

elenita 05-14-2010 05:47 PM
Day 54
 
Last week the vet decided she didnt need an ultrasound because she was getting bigger. We did an xray today which didnt really help. Vet said the puppies are all over the place so he couldnt tell how many were in there.:confused: Also that the skulls are big but in "his gut feeling" she will be able to give birth. She is huge and she looks miserable..poor baby! She is eating good tho :D

gemy 05-14-2010 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elenita (Post 3128847)
Last week the vet decided she didnt need an ultrasound because she was getting bigger. We did an xray today which didnt really help. Vet said the puppies are all over the place so he couldnt tell how many were in there.:confused: Also that the skulls are big but in "his gut feeling" she will be able to give birth. She is huge and she looks miserable..poor baby! She is eating good tho :D

How is she doing now? Do you know the distress signs of a labour gone wrong? Oh please let us know if she is okay

elenita 05-14-2010 08:45 PM
distress
 
she is doing good, just so big she looks miserable. Distress signs, i think im going to be imaging them. If she have a puppy then nothing after an hour of trying it is time for the Vet visit. If she hasnt had any I should look for what signs? If active labor and no sign of any puppies after an hour go to vet rt? Now I am nervous. I dont like seeing her in any pain. ughh wait til I get those adorable eyes looking at me for help. :( I wish I could take that pain for her. Anything else I should look for in signs of distress? I could use any bit of info. :)

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3128985)
How is she doing now? Do you know the distress signs of a labour gone wrong? Oh please let us know if she is okay

elenita 05-14-2010 08:53 PM
???
 
Also, just wondering...can you tell if she is close to labor by milk in her teets? The vet said (which is no breeder) i would see more milk coming out when she is really close. Gezell does squat like she has to pee sometimes but does nothing. Does that mean anything? or is it because she is so big and her belly hangs?

Tnyorkiemom 05-17-2010 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elenita (Post 3100571)
No, I did not consult a specialist. Actually it was a realtives baby who I felt was not taking care of him so I took him. He has been in our home 2yrs now. I let the real owner keep him last year for a few months. When I went back I saw he was coughing sounding like a Duck and I knew something was wrong. That was when I took him back and took him to my Vet. He said his trachea had collapsed too close to his heart that he did not recommend surgery. Vet said he didnt even know of a Dr. who would perform this test because Cosmo (lil guy) chances of survival were so low. He sounded as if he had a greater chance in dieing from surgery then to limit his activities. He did give me pills (cough medicine) which does not help. Its hard to keep a lil dog who get excited over everything calm. We try our best though. Im glad my other yorkie (gezell) is very good with him. I do wish there was another way to keep him alive :cry: I dread the day because I will not be able to do it. he is ok for now. I found this out in October and he has been so much better here then with his other mother. :)
for your widdle man....you might want to try this
Sleepytime tonic: Herbal elixir helps to calm down a nervous, anxious or overactive dog

it could help to keep him calm

Jaxx 05-20-2010 10:20 PM
Puppies yet ?
 
Has she had her puppies yet?

jazzybee445 05-21-2010 12:39 AM
any updates??? was everything alright? any pictures??

elenita 05-21-2010 07:52 PM
5 puppies
 
Yes, she did. 5 puppies, 3 girls and 2 boys :D It was nerve wrecking yet exciting at the same time. Mom and puppies are doing good. I am unable to upload pictures here cs they are too large but they are on my profile..Feel free to look at my babies..thanks:D


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