OK that makes a little more sense. From what I understand a bitch can only get pregnant once the bleeding STOPS. So since she was with the male after the bleeding there is a very good change that she is pregnant. There have been MANY discussions about using diapers or clothing to try to stop penetration. Now my real concern is if it is too late to spay. :( I'm very worried about her because what I DO know is that 8 months is way too young and 4 lbs is way to small for puppies. :(

Totally not attacking you here~what has happened is why we are always begging, preaching, encouraging for spay and neutering. You just NEVER know what might happen and when it does it can be bad........really bad :(

Please call the vet first thing and INSIST that she be seen. If he cannot take you call another. It really is THAT important and could be life or death is not addressed immediately.

I'm sorry to hear that you are going through so much at one time.
I really don't have any advise but just wanted to say I will keep you, your partner and your little furbaby in my thoughts and prayers.
Please keep us posted.

what I meant to say was false pregnancy
here are a few threads on the subject:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...alse+pregnancy
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...alse+pregnancy

Ok I talked to my vet this morning And he said Monday was the soonest he could see her. He assured me there was no difference between today and monday, And that monday would actually be good, because since yesterday would have been around 21days since she couldve first been impregnated, And they need 25 days usally to hear the heartbeats on an ultrasound and theres a chemical they can test for in their blood also around the 25th day called relaxing or something like that.

Let's hope for a false pregnancy. Otherwise, poor Chloe and poor Daddies! You'll have tough choices to make.

Hey, what did the vet say?

Accidents happen were all human. I have a beautiful baby girl who was inbred her mom had a boy and the lady kept him and guess what They breed and i ended up with my baby, but she is pretty normal except she has bowed front legs but when i got her i didnt even relize them but they vet said she would be fine, and she has threw up yellow bile before as well but shes not pregnant. We also have a Honey who is a cocker spaniel and i got her fixed when she was breed and we had no problem what so ever. Hope this is helpful. Hope you partner gets well soon.

I was coming back for an update and to see what the vet had to say. It sounds like you did everything you possibly could given the circumstances. Sometimes there are other issues that come up in life and we have to make do as best we can. Hopefully all will work out for the best and you got some good news today.

Hope your partner is better...hang in there!

I didnt know she was inbred till i ordered her registration papers either .

any news??

Hope things are improving for you and your partne.

From a breeder's standpoint, based on facts.

Yes, there are breeders that accomplish breeding with inbreeding, but these are the very experienced breeder that want to establish what is wrong and what is right with line. As stated above you will definately bring out both qualities fast. But, this inbreeding is very, very rarely done. What most experienced breeders do is what is called line breeding. It is where you breed two dogs that have common ancestors, this is what we do to set type.

As far as your girl being able to be impregnated while she is still showing color, yes it's possible. Keeping in mind that it is not the date she is bred, but when she ovulates. I have a girl that is very ready on her 2nd day of showing color and concieves every time.

She is a bit too young, immature, and small to be a mother. She can be spayed at this point. But, the final decision is yours to make on what is best for your girl. She may very well be experiencing a false pregnacy. Another suggestion would be to have her examined by a repro vet. And keep in mind vets are for the most part general practioners...so, find one that is versed in the Toy Breeds.

I hope everything is going well with your partner and Chloe.

First off if your mom is positive they didn't tie, she may just be having a false pregnancy. They go through all the same symptoms as one that is pregnant including gaining weight and producing milk. I've had a few girls with false pregnancies. It also lasts the same amount of time as a real pregnancy. Only difference is no puppies in the end.

Secondly for future reference, a belly band and diaper will not prevent pregnancy. These little ones can get around that very easily. Only way to prevent it is to keep them completely separated for the heat cycle.

I'm sorry to hear your partner isn't well, I hope he has a full speedy recovery!!

Keep us updated on what you find out about Chloe!!

just checking for an update. I'm sure the OP has had a very emotional day. Sometimes we need time to process the options before we can come here and post.
Maybe tomorrow......

In the meantime we can pray

Update!!!
 

First of all I would like to say thank you to everyone for your great advise, kind words, And understanding. I am very happy to tell everyone that were 90% sure Chloe is not pregnant. First the vet said she didn't even look pregnant to her. She said her nipples did appear to be a little swollen but that this was normal following her first heat cycle. As far as her gaining weight she has gained a little bringing her to just under 5lbs. But that is good and what we were hoping for as she was tiny (she was the runt of the litter). A ultrasound was done but nothing was found no heart beats..nothing. She did do blood work and we should get the results either today (which its already 3 so prob not) or tomorrow. There looking for a chemical called relaxin in her blood but she doesnt expect to find it...We are soooo relived. I am very happy. Sorry again I didn't get back sooner, I had a very trying day yesterday and Today has been very busy as well. But thank you all again for the support not only with Chloe but with my husband Joey. :D

Yeah!! that is the best news ever! You must be so relieved. Wishing you, your partner, and Chloe a WONDERFUL day!

Sounds like wonderful news so far.:)

That is wonderful news, you must be so very relieved.
I am also glad to read your partner is now well too.
Happy day's are here again.



Yipeeeeeeee

Good news all around! Your days are looking up. Donna

Yeah, great news all around!!

So glad to hear some good news, and I wish you continued good luck in the future with both situations that have been hard to deal with lately.

Great news. Hopefully you'll have 100% reassurance tomorrow. Sounds like things may calm down in your life. Maybe this was a warning???? I read in one of your other posts that chloe has a liver shunt. Since breeding should be to better the breed. Maybe the best thing to do is spay her and keep her as a Special one of a kind unique baby that she is..

Just a thought..

I don't think the tests came in is conclusive....but, I don't think he shared what the final outcome of the tests were. Now if his baby does have shunt, there is a possibility that she cannot be spayed. But, I don't believe that if shunt had been diagnosed he would even consider breeding her...as it would not be in the best interest of her health.

Actually she was never diagnosed with a liver shunt and it was ruled out as I had ever test done and none of her levels indicated anything. Basically it was chalked up to her having to have gotten a hold of something toxic. and thats what caused the episode..Shes never had another episode..:D As far a spaying Im not going to get into the debate with anyone on here, But like I said I have no plans on selling puppies or doing it for gain, I actually will not even breed her period even for my family if when the time comes the vet does not say she checks out.. :)

If that great decision comes around: Prepare yourself for a roller coaster ride.

Start getting your equipment ready. Read, read, read and study, study, study.....
Gathering your meds
And be prepared to give up a minimum of 12 weeks of your life

Thank you, Yeah I would like to assure everyone am not one who would go into anything so serious without reading and learning all of the consequences. If I do It will not be a decision I make like what to wear in the morning. I am not saying that I will or will not breed her That will be a decision my vet, partner, And I will have to make When/If we are sure we are ready. Luckily for me I am in a position financially where I can Afford the best for her, And I do not leave her as I am a stay at home dad, So I would have the time to give up in my life for this. That being said If/when I decide she will not be bred, I will then have her spayed.

I am aware at this point shes to small to breed so if she doesn't grow more, This will be a mood point anyhow, And that is why I wrote this thread to begin with as I was soooo scared about her not only being poss preg by her relative but that she was to young and small As well as me not being ready. The only dog she is ever in contact with is my mothers(which he is being neutered this week as well as getting his teeth pulled too)So that will no longer be an issue. Had I known my mom was going to let them interact I would not have left her with her, I would have paid for boarding, It was purely selfish on my part as it made me feel better to leave her with my mom. The reason I had her in a diaper wasn't so they could play, It was so she wouldn't bleed in my moms house.

She's a inside dog as we live on the third and top floor of our condo and she is litterbox trained. We do go for our walks but it is on a private trail and rarely come across other dogs (which I immediately pick her up). So I am not concerned about her having another issue like this until we make our decision.

So for everyone concerned, I appreciate the feedback, I am weighing it all heavily, And I will not be making this desicion anytime soon. It will not be a descion I will make lightly.And if I do decide to go the route of breeding her Her pups will only go to family and they will be spayed and or neutered At my expense. And I am forever grateful for all the kind words, great advise, and genuine concern, That is why I am so proud to be a member of this great family here on YT!! So I do not want to seem rude but I dont want to debate breeding in this thread, As I am not even sure we will . Thanks everyone ttyl and have a good night.

I was in NO way trying to be rude, judgemental or controversial.
I'm happy that she doesn't have a liver shunt. And I don't blame you for not getting "into it" with anyone about to spay or not spay, to have a litter or not have a litter.
You love your dog, you'll do whats right.:thumbup:

No worries!! I didn't think you were being rude at all. I actually don't think anyone has been rude at all in this thread, and I couldn't be more relived. I'm sorry if I seemed touchy just seen an opportunity for someone to come on and use what was being said to start a debate and I thought I better nip that in the bud right away..thanks again for your support:D

Great news for your little girl!
You sound like a wonderful yorkie daddy!
Hope all is well with your partner.