parti carriers
 

I see parti carriers for sale on limited reg for pet only homes. Why charge anymore for a parti carrier solely cuz its carrying the parti gene when the dog cannot be shown or bred?

I understand maybe mentioning it because the pup may have more white on it, but I still dont even get why to advertise its a carrier?

I just dont get it.

I think you pretty much answered your own question. ;) I have no idea what other people are selling their limited registration carriers for, but when I sold Livi's puppy I did NOT sell him for more!! I also didn't charge extra to deliver him to his new family....which was a 5 and a half hour drive for us.

To try and fool people...if the dog is being neutered/spayed there is not reason unless because of the extra white...

Wow thats nice of you to drive that far.

Yeah, maybe some white on it is why, but I would hope thats not the reason to jack the price up on it. LOL thats insane.

I saw one on the net last night and I was a bit flustered why the breeder was charging so much for it as a pet only.

Ps. I love that photo on your avatar.

My avatar cracks me up....that is my Ms. Sassy and her ears do sit straight up unless she looks at me as if I am nuts when I talk funny.

The majority of breeders are into breeding for $$$$...and remember you can fool some of the people all the time...haha.

Ms. Sassy has unique coloring...very pretty.

Yeah-there sure are a lot of sale tactics out there...its the ones with integrity that deserve credit where its due.

[QUOTE=Cares4Dogs;3001773]Ms. Sassy has unique coloring...very pretty.

Yeah-there sure are a lot of sale tactics out there...its the ones with integrity that deserve credit where its due.[/QUOTE]

Very well said...ethic's is so very import if you want to have a wonderful puppy experience...

Not sure about the ads you are seeing but most of the ones I see run about the same for standard pups listed on limited registration.

There are other factors as for price differences..Such as
Price varies by location
Full vs Limited registration
AKC vs. APRI, ACA
Male vs Female
The niceness of the dog Structure and Coat texture.
Pedigrees, Size, Health, Flaws (over or under bites)

And if the dog is a carrier it should be stated. If not someone who is looking for a standard pup and finds out after the sale the dog is a carrier maybe upset.

As one parti breeder said, "Because they can!" I don't mind a breeder selling on limited registration, in fact, I think they should, but selling the dog for more than a dog with the proper hair color, seems to me, to be wrong. There's a market for it because people have created a market for it, it different, and there will always be those that believe that different means special. The proper yorkie coat is a very difficult coat to achieve, it must be straight and thick, and silky, and have a slightly metallic look to it, and not be full black but have this metalic like sheen, this metallic sheen is very difficult to produce, it shouldn't have white hairs in it that produce this silvery effect. There are many genes working together to get the proper coat. Why not just have 2 genes working together instead of 6 or 8, and you'll get what you want every time. I understand that some people like the parti yorkie, but I often wonder if they've ever seen a dog with a really gorgeous proper yorkie coat in person. Remember, when you have 2 partis you can only produce a parti colored yorkie, so soon the market will be overrun with parti people, and the price will fall drastically.

I dont understand why someone would be upset after purchasing a pup and finding out its a carrier on AKC limited registration.....unless they intended on breeding. I'm not in the market to purchase a pup--it was just an obsevation that this parti carrier's price was jacked up. They also had traditional yorkies with the same sire for a LOT cheaper. I wish I had place marked the page so I could show ya'll.

I realize ultimately it is up to the breeder on what they price their pups for and who am I to question it, but I am curious why they did it.

Probably the best way to find out why is to directing ask the people that you saw advertising with such high prices. ;)

We might not always like the price but I do not think you should questions somones integrity because of the prices. They have the right to charge anything they want. It is up to the buyer if they want to pay it.

There is alot more to breeding than just having puppies. It cost alot! Parti's are farly new and the supply is low so they will cost more. It does not make it right or wrong in my book...just how it is. This is the real world and that is how everything is done.

I have wondered that myself. to a non breeder, a carrier is just a traditional colored puppy, unless it would have a lot of white and then it could be because it is different.

I have also driven a 10 hour round trip to deliver a puppy. I met them half way,

I would much rather drive than ship. I drove once 16 hours round trip in one day. To me it is fun I like road trips. I like meeting people in person. I love seeing their faces when they first see their new baby. It makes a trip all worth it.

I really wasn't questioning a breeders integrity based solely on prices. I said above "who am I to question what a breeder charges"....If a breeder were to sell a AKC limited yorkie that looks traditional, call it a carrier and then jack up the price....thats kind of questionable. We see here on YT that people get taken advantage of every single day and dont realize it until they get here.

I just wanted to know what might cause this breeder to mention "parti gene carrier" on a dog thats a pet only with an inflated price.

That is a really good question, I think I would ask her.

I just wanted to say that I visited ColorfulYorkie.com and was blown away with the beauty of the pups. I myself have 3 beautiful Traditional's but hope to be the proud owner of a chocolate, gold or parti in the next few months....Just incredible:)

They are very pretty!!!

Oh wow a couple of drivers on here! Yay I'm not the only one! We drove 48 hours round trip to drop off a puppy in CO. We ate with the family and enjoyed their company! Talking on the phone is nothing like meeting a family in person! I loved every minute of it! Now I want to drive every one of my babies so I can meet the families!! If I have a baby that's going to live out of town. I prefer it to shipping. So much more personal.

Sorry for getting off subject.
Yea I too don't understand for the higher price of a carrier on limited reg. if you can't breed or aren't supposed to breed there's really no reason to charge more. I know a carrier can produce a parti if bred to another parti or carrier. But if you're not supposed to breed then why charge more? I would charge what I would charge for a standard colored Yorkie. Since you're not breeding. Right?

I see you are from Canada.
You might be interested in reading about the first Parti registered with the CKC due to the efforts of Cindy Newhook at Pixie Dust Yorkies.
You can read it on the PYTC
PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - News

yes-there are some beauties out there.

Another problem has complicated things; some biewer breeders are breeding biewers to parti's. Let me just say there is a huge difference between different biewers and what the breeders objectives are, although the to the untrained eye, the differences are not that apparent. Some are breeding because it's the newest thing, and they can get premium prices, and others are breeding because they believe that this particular strain that was developed in Germany, has enough unique traits that make it different enough from the yorkie to eventually become a new breed. A biewer breeder breeding for the money can breed to a parti carrier who was sold on "limited registration". They aren't planning to register with the AKC anyway. So there is a demand right now for some of the carriers, and that always ups the price. What happens when there is no longer a demand, so many of the regular yorkies will now have this recessive gene. How will this effect them Yorkies the long run? A Biewer buyer has a very difficult time right now supporting breeders who are really interested in improving their breed. It isn't that easy to figure out the difference based merely on what the breeders themselves say. Parti breeders need to be especially careful where their carriers go, just as one time traditional breeders needed to be careful. Limited registration doesn't really protect, spay and neuter is the only real protection. I would stay away from biewer breeders who registered with the CKC, and other registries and look for a registry/club that didn't approve of the Yorkshire Terrier parti/biewer mixing anymore.

Thank You. It is a very good place to get information concerning the genetics and the history of the parti color.

It's a work in progress, we are always looking for new informstion to add.

Nancy it is important to for those to know there are 2 different CKC registries.
One in America and one in Canada.
The CKC I was talk about is the "Canadian Kennel Club".
The Canadian Kennel Club is like our AKC.
And there are Biewer breeders who do believe the true Biewer is the German version of the American Parti’s since they were produced by 2 traditional yorkies.
And YES they do believe in breeding back to the Yorkshire Terrier or the Parti's.
Since the Biewer’s can not be registered with AKC, breeders do use the some of the other American registries like CKC,APRI and ACA.

I agree. When I sell on limited registrration, I do not charge more.

[QUOTE=Nancy1999;3002750]Another problem has complicated things; some biewer breeders are breeding biewers to parti's. Let me just say there is a huge difference between different biewers and what the breeders objectives are, although the to the untrained eye, the differences are not that apparent. Some are breeding because it's the newest thing, and they can get premium prices, and others are breeding because they believe that this particular strain that was developed in Germany, has enough unique traits that make it different enough from the yorkie to eventually become a new breed. A biewer breeder breeding for the money can breed to a parti carrier who was sold on "limited registration". They aren't planning to register with the AKC anyway. So there is a demand right now for some of the carriers, and that always ups the price. What happens when there is no longer a demand, so many of the regular yorkies will now have this recessive gene. How will this effect them Yorkies the long run? A Biewer buyer has a very difficult time right now supporting breeders who are really interested in improving their breed. It isn't that easy to figure out the difference based merely on what the breeders themselves say. Parti breeders need to be especially careful where their carriers go, just as one time traditional breeders needed to be careful. Limited registration doesn't really protect, spay and neuter is the only real protection. I would stay away from biewer breeders who registered with the CKC, and other registries and look for a registry/club that didn't approve of the Yorkshire Terrier parti/biewer mixing anymore.[/QUOTE]
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I agree. They fought so hard to get the partis registered AKC, why would you want to have them registered CKC?

I believe the other American registries are "paper registries." You are correct in saying that there are two CKC's, but the Canadian registry would never register a biewer/yorkie mix.

Correct
The first Parti registered with the CKC "Canada Kennel Club" was an America bred AKC Parti.

They would be selling biewers through the CKC. If you mix a parti with a biewer it can pass for a biewer. There are genetic clusters that could indicate that the biewer is different than the Yorkshire terrier, if they are breed back to the Yorkshire terrier, the offspring will lose these clusters and the genetics will be watered down with a regular/parti yorkie. Some breeders believe that we should keep the lines separate, and I tend to believe this too.