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Help Delivery questoin!! Abby started pushing about 1 hr. ago, stops and diggs franticlly and then rests and thenstarts pushing again. I can see a presentation, but it hasn't gotten to where I tell if it is a head or feet, but she hsn't progressed any further. Is this ok? When should I start worring? Also, 1st puppy is fussing so abby is distracted by that. Any help would be greatly appreciated |
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Complications: 1. Constant hard labor for more than an hour and no results. 2. Green or odorous discharge from the vulva prior to the presentation of a pup. 3. An interval of two hours between pups with occasional hard labor. 4. Any part of a pup stuck or protuding from the vaginal canal 5. One hour of hard labor and no puppies. 6. Three hours of no labor between pups and you think there is another pup. |
looks like the puppy is breach. She has several hard contractions and then takes a break shredding the puppy pad in her be and then rests for a couple and then starts again. |
She is having a green discharge, just started. |
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I agree with Mardelin, if the pup has been visible to you for that long and she is not actively pushing, or is not progressing with each contraction, it's time to get to a vet quickly. Given that it has not progressed enough for you to make heads or tails of it (literally) then the pup is not in a position where you can help her guide it out (which you would only do if you REALLY knew how to go about it). Please, make a phone call to your vet (as you are getting ready to leave), explain the situation and get their advice. They will likely tell you to bring her in, but a call will help even more by giving them some notice as to what you are are on your way in with. |
feet are protruding in sack should I break sack, grab feet and pull with contractions?? |
in situations like that, I would not even call my vet pack the girl and take her in, she needs a vet. Best of luck with her. |
I would get her to the Vet Green is not a good sign |
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Get to the vet. |
Called the vet said I should wait another 10 min and if hasn't gone any further call back and bring her in. |
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Advising you on how to properly assist by pulling out the pup is a very dangerous thing to try to do via web forum. I am afraid that explanation of 'how too' would not be effective and it would be VERY easy to injur or kill the pup unless you REALLY know what you are doing there. Seriously, it's time to get to the vet. Maybe you will luck up and she will deliver the pup on the way there. This is not a situation where you have the luxury of 'waiting to see what happens.' |
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best of luck. Carmen in nj |
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Delivered puppy he was breach, but with a couple of good pushes and me gently pulling he is out. |
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Hopefully you didn't pull the puppy's legs. You said breach if his hind legs were protruding that is a posterior presentation, not breech. |
Whew...what a relief. Yes, never never never pull the legs...or head! Just to confirm, and Mary I'm sure you'll know what I mean, I've always been instructed that in those instances, you should form 'hooks' with your index and middle fingers and hook around under the hips or shoulders? Gently and slowly pulling while slightly twisting back and forth. Is that correct? (In my mind, that is a very hard thing to explain via the typed word.) Thankfully, I have never had to do this with one of mine...only with Shih Tzus. |
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Well that just sounds super fun! :eek: Yeah, very easy to injur the pup if not done right...and at that stage, they are quite slippery and hard to grasp. :( Definately one of those 'need to know' aspects, but NOT something I would feel comfortable with having to try to coach someone through over the net/phone. Shih Tzu breeder friend of mine says that it's not at all uncommon for her to have to assist in this manner with pup. I guess maybe the cranial structure of that breed presents a higher likelyhood of getting hung up in the canal... |
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Of course I never heard the end of it from my mother that by the time she got to the hospital one foot was out from me but the other leg was still in the uterus and I almost ripped in half...now I know that is not entirely true but the vet (oh I mean Dr.) had to push me back up so he could grab both feet/legs and pull me out feet first.:p:D:p |
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I was lurking (as usual) :p and I was waiting to see whether it was a actual breech or a posterior birth . . .and the green that came out prior to the birth doesn't that usually mean trouble? I've always thought that green discharge or any kind of blood prior to a pup being pushed out was a bad thing. Does that usually require an immediate vet visit? How long do you actually have if those things present themselves? |
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The green discharge was apparent AFTER the birth of the first pup..this breech pup was the second...in this case it would be normal and not worry me. A green discharge before any pups have been born is a worry.. most often it means there is a plancenta separation. There is green that is decomposing blood from the whelping..perfectly normal..and infection can be green in color...odor is a factor also..takes a bit of experince to know when it is serious and when it is normal. Best wishes... |
Finally getting back Abby did push the big bugger out. He was 7.1 oz. and within a few min out popped the next one. She rested for a while and just finished with the last. Though will be taking to the vet for a shot as she didn't deliver the last placenta. Thank you for all you help and concern. Glad that everything worked out. All of the puppies were big. 6.4, 7.1, 6.0 and 7.0 oz. Think this will be her last litter. All puppies are doing fine. Will keep you posted. |
Oh just wanted to clairfy, He was delivered feet first, but have always thought that was breach, but guess breach is when it is but first? |
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