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Cares4Dogs 01-14-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyandtanksmom (Post 2953818)
Theres a question nobody has answered yet: those of you who breed, would you sell a female to a new breeder?

I would consider it if I knew them and was very confident that they'd always have her best interest at heart.

amcgriff88 01-17-2010 12:59 AM

You made a point to make one of your questions about how often individuals have lost puppies or mothers. We are not trying to make sure you understand, but as breeders we want you to know how likely it is to lose a dog or pup. When you ask a breeder about what it takes to breed their specific breed, they are not going to leave out the fact that you may lose a mother or pups, simply because you have been told '5 thousand times' by other individuals. It is our responsibility to prepare people interested in breeding all the facts involved in becoming a responsible breeder. The fact that you are getting annoyed by the fact that people are telling you exactly what you asked them to tell you would make me a little concerned as a breeder that you want to breed whether it is in the dogs or breeds best interest.
But on another note. Mardelin is giving you wonderful, experienced information which is key to becoming a breeder. No matter how many books you read, they will not begin to prepare you for breeding the way experience first hand will prepare you. Either way, take what Mardelin says to heart. She is a well-known and respected breeder here in California. She is looking out for the well-being of the Yorkshire Terrier breed.

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Originally Posted by joeyandtanksmom (Post 2955585)
first off, thank you to everyone who has answered my questions - I appreciate the new knowledge, and to hear your guys' experiences. I think it helps to see what you have gone through and learned. It was quite interesting to see about line breeding - I'd never heard that term before. It does make sense though. I will definitely be checking into at least watching some shows, if not participating at some point. I think that would be fun, as well as a good learning experience. Also, it makes sense about my question about you selling a female to a new breeder - not being a yes or no, I mean. I didn't even think about the fact that you would probably base your decision on whether or not you trust the person and how you felt about them...you would be talking about one of your own puppies, of course :) Mardelin - I really thank you for your insight and taking the time to answer my questions, I can see you are a very experienced breeder and want nothing but the best for the breed, and for all your dogs/puppies.

I would also like to reiterate a few things that I think some people just haven't paid attention to or understood...I do not have a female yet, and I do not plan to buy one for at least one year (the SOONEST I would get a girl would be about January of 2011, but it could very possibly wait until 2012). I am trying to do as much research as possible now, so that I am well prepared for when I have a female ready to be bred. I realize that I will see puppies die, and very possibly a mother. I am fully prepared for that. I work in a hospital and see death on a daily basis - I know it's different, but I feel that I am able to handle death, even of loved ones, well.

I know none of you "want to come off as rude", but really, I know that I could lose a dog, adult or infant, and I don't need to hear it 5 thousand times before I understand it. I was more interested in the vet bills of a litter with and without complications, opinions of selling to a new breeder, supplies I may not think of that I would need, and stuff like that. I know about the emotional side of it, and am prepared for it.

Again, I'm not planning on breeding until at least 2013, I'm just trying to get all my ducks in a row way beforehand. Thanks :)


manolos mom 01-17-2010 05:12 AM

First of all, good luck to you and STUDY HARD, so much to learn and it may take you years. Take it from me, I failed Breeding 101. I am so glad that YT has some great breeders that will share their information and help educate. Again, Good luck to you!

KwayzieBonz 01-17-2010 05:04 PM

1. What are the things that some people don't think about?
The Cost definitely. The time and patience it takes. It isn't just one + one and a litter of puppies. It takes YEARS of research.

2. What are all the costs associated with breeding an akc litter (registrations, tails, dew claws, shots, etc)
I myself haven't bred a litter yet although I am getting my foundation Fox Terrier in late 2012/early 2013, but I have talked to breeders that have set aside money for breeding. One person I know have a breeding disaster and spent $10,ooo on a C-Section for only 4/8 puppies to live. You have to think about that when breeding.

3. How often have you lost puppies/mothers?
Haven't bred yet so can't answer.

4. When I do purchase, would it be a good idea to find a breeder out of the area so that I could be sure she wasn't related to my boy?
Well, it is possible that there are breeders out of your area who still have dogs related to your boy. Depends on his pedigree. You have to get look into pedigrees and check yourself.

5. Is it possible to look at the sire and dam's pedigrees when I'm looking at pups to compare to my akc boy's pedigree to be absolutely certain that they aren't at all related? - like, would that be an ok thing to ask of the breeder?
Sure, take all the steps need. ;)

6. My AKC boy is about 4 lbs. If I were to purchase a girl that reached an adult weight of 5 to 7 lbs, that would be an acceptable match, correct?
Sure!
One thing I should ask. How old is your boy? I remember you saying in 3 years you would like to breed and I wouldn't breed any yorkie over 6 years of age. Also has he been health tested? Will the female be health tested (also expensive), so I would make sure her parents were health tested as you might end up spending thousands of dollars for a dog that might not be healthy. Also are you conformation showing? I would suggest breeding your babies as pets, breeding is always for the betterment of the breed and not just to breed. There a millions of yorkies in shelters so remember :)


Btw, NEVER register a dog with the CKC (Contenital Kennel Club), they would register my slipper if I paid money. Honestly they are a just a hoax kennel club. Never register with them, I once had someone tell me they "registered" their Guinea Pig with the CKC as a Sheltie to see if it was really a bogus kennel club and they did it :eek:

joeyandtanksmom 01-25-2010 09:19 PM

so...after a LOT of thought, research, thinking, and discussing things with my husband, we have decided to NOT breed. We will be getting both our boys fixed. When we buy a house, we are going to begin fostering dogs. I feel that there are so many dogs without homes already, it really would be quite insane of me to create more dogs...it's basically sending the same amount to the slaughter...not ok in my mind. I think my time will be much better spend rehabilitating bully breed dogs than breeding yorkies. oh, and those of you who think I'm insane for bringing pitties and similar breeds into my home with my yorkies, they'll be fine. My boys have played with pitties before, and all dogs are screened before they are able to go to a foster home. All those of you who answered my questions, I thank you for your time and your help with my decision.


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