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Old 01-13-2010, 08:07 PM   #196
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Hi, my name is Barb, and I just found & joined this group tonight. Have spent several hours reading threads. I have a question about the newborn weights. My two females weigh: one is 4 lbs 12 oz. and the other is 6½ lbs. My male is 4 lbs. In the two years that we've been breeding, we've only had two puppies that weighed 4.2 oz and 4.4 oz at birth. The rest have been in the 3 oz range and a several in the 2 oz range. Most of the 2 oz ones died. It just breaks my heart when the little ones die, and I do sit up with them, and help & comfort them when they are having the wee ones. What am I doing wrong, that they are so little at birth? The mommies eat well the whole time they are pregnant, and they are on a good quality dry food, with some good quality canned food, once every other day. I could really use some help with this. Thanks!
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Hi, my name is Barb, and I just found & joined this group tonight. Have spent several hours reading threads. I have a question about the newborn weights. My two females weigh: one is 4 lbs 12 oz. and the other is 6½ lbs. My male is 4 lbs. In the two years that we've been breeding, we've only had two puppies that weighed 4.2 oz and 4.4 oz at birth. The rest have been in the 3 oz range and a several in the 2 oz range. Most of the 2 oz ones died. It just breaks my heart when the little ones die, and I do sit up with them, and help & comfort them when they are having the wee ones. What am I doing wrong, that they are so little at birth? The mommies eat well the whole time they are pregnant, and they are on a good quality dry food, with some good quality canned food, once every other day. I could really use some help with this. Thanks!
Hi Welsome to YT. I alwasys give mine cottage cheese and boiled eggs the last two weeks for the extra protein and calcium.

One thought. How many times do they tie and how many days between the first and last tie. Also how big is your stud. if he is real small you might need to use a larger stud.

Do you sit with the newborns and make sure the tiny ones are getting to nurse without being pushed off.

There are so masny possibilities.

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Hi, my name is Barb, and I just found & joined this group tonight. Have spent several hours reading threads. I have a question about the newborn weights. My two females weigh: one is 4 lbs 12 oz. and the other is 6½ lbs. My male is 4 lbs. In the two years that we've been breeding, we've only had two puppies that weighed 4.2 oz and 4.4 oz at birth. The rest have been in the 3 oz range and a several in the 2 oz range. Most of the 2 oz ones died. It just breaks my heart when the little ones die, and I do sit up with them, and help & comfort them when they are having the wee ones. What am I doing wrong, that they are so little at birth? The mommies eat well the whole time they are pregnant, and they are on a good quality dry food, with some good quality canned food, once every other day. I could really use some help with this. Thanks!
Hi Barb, welcome to Yorkie Talk. I am sorry you have lost some babies but sadly, sometimes that happens, even to the most experienced breeders. What dog food are you feeding? There are many things that could cause the problem so it would be hard to guess without a lot more detail. Size of litter has a lot to do with it sometimes. With smaller females and females with large litters there are concerns with crowding in the womb. Often one pup could be crowded in a position where he is just not able to develop normally. Care after birth is important also. A 2 oz puppy might not be able to nurse strong enough to get milk or he might get pushed off by bigger pups.

Here are links to two articles that give a give some information on some things that could cause a higher puppy mortality rate.

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Hello, thanks for the info, I will give the cottage cheese and boiled egg a try. My male is 4 lbs -- they bred for about 7 days, whenever they wanted to! LOL!!! It was usually a couple times a day, each day!
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First how do you reply to a message on here? I've been using quick reply, but then it doesn't end up on the message it's suppose to.
We are feeding a mix of Canidae, Solid Gold & Rachael Ray's dog food. They really love it!
Sometimes, the little 2 oz'ers are too weak to nurse. THANK YOU for the article! That sounds like it's going to be a life-saver {literally}!!! Going to print it out, so that I have it handy.
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Forgot to tell y'all that we have 3 Yorkie pups that are 8 weeks old tomorrow. They are as cute as can be. This batch has the short nose and they look like teddy bears! Is that possible, when none of the others ever did? Well, DUH, yes, it is possible because it did happen LOL. I just can't believe how cute these are, never had the short noses before.
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Hello, thanks for the info, I will give the cottage cheese and boiled egg a try. My male is 4 lbs -- they bred for about 7 days, whenever they wanted to! LOL!!! It was usually a couple times a day, each day!
It is best to never let your dogs free breed and never more than once in a day. The male's sperm can live up 7 days in the female after she is bred. Letting them breed real often just dilutes the male's sperm. Letting them breed without assistance can result to injury to the male or the female if the female gets really wild trying to get loose when tied. I always keep the male separated from the female in heat except for the times I am breeding them. I always hold the female so she can't pull away from the male.
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Hello, thanks for the info, I will give the cottage cheese and boiled egg a try. My male is 4 lbs -- they bred for about 7 days, whenever they wanted to! LOL!!! It was usually a couple times a day, each day!
This might be your problem, some puppies might be conceived a week later than the others. It is best to only breed twice with as day in between, and then stop.

Also AKC requires that someone actually supervise each mating and that the dates be recorded.

You can PM me if you want the record sheets.
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First how do you reply to a message on here? I've been using quick reply, but then it doesn't end up on the message it's suppose to.We are feeding a mix of Canidae, Solid Gold & Rachael Ray's dog food. They really love it!
Sometimes, the little 2 oz'ers are too weak to nurse. THANK YOU for the article! That sounds like it's going to be a life-saver {literally}!!! Going to print it out, so that I have it handy.
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Ollie has gained 1.4 oz since last night. She is definitely feeling rounder and I think I am hearing the heartbeat. Yaaayyyyyyyy so excited. one week to go.
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Ollie has gained 1.4 oz since last night. She is definitely feeling rounder and I think I am hearing the heartbeat. Yaaayyyyyyyy so excited. one week to go.
Oh good, Jeanie!!! I am happy to read this!

Great news.
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First how do you reply to a message on here? I've been using quick reply, but then it doesn't end up on the message it's suppose to.
We are feeding a mix of Canidae, Solid Gold & Rachael Ray's dog food. They really love it!
Sometimes, the little 2 oz'ers are too weak to nurse. THANK YOU for the article! That sounds like it's going to be a life-saver {literally}!!! Going to print it out, so that I have it handy.
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Ollie has gained 1.4 oz since last night. She is definitely feeling rounder and I think I am hearing the heartbeat. Yaaayyyyyyyy so excited. one week to go.
Jeanie, I sure hope she is pregnant. I know you have been so worried with this girl's pregnancy. Are you feeling any movement at all? She might have more than a week to go if she conceived later.
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Jeanie, I sure hope she is pregnant. I know you have been so worried with this girl's pregnancy. Are you feeling any movement at all? She might have more than a week to go if she conceived later.
Yes I guess that's possible. I think I feel movement. Due to as nerve disorder, I do not have much feelinging my hands but I think I feel it moving.
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It is best to never let your dogs free breed and never more than once in a day. The male's sperm can live up 7 days in the female after she is bred. Letting them breed real often just dilutes the male's sperm. Letting them breed without assistance can result to injury to the male or the female if the female gets really wild trying to get loose when tied. I always keep the male separated from the female in heat except for the times I am breeding them. I always hold the female so she can't pull away from the male.
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Thanks for the info about breeding. I do keep an eye on them, and record when I see them doing it. I didn't know it was better to limit them to the number of times. Figured as long as we were getting a decent amount of puppies that it was fine. Ok, so out of those 7 days, how many days do I let them?
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