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BonBon 12-16-2009 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918784)
In total agreement with you. Had the dog been obtained from me, I'd be marching to her house to pick said dog and the litter that was produced. It's in my contract that dogs must be spay/nuetered and any unplanned breeding the dog and pups will be taken by me.

What's worse is the original seller of the dog did not keep track of the dog to ensure it had been nuetered.
I've had you in the back of my mind all this time. Somehow, I knew you'd feel this way. I was thinking that respectable/reputable breeders would be more concerned about maintaining the integrity of their lines than with potential profits.

jackson25 12-16-2009 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918784)
In total agreement with you. Had the dog been obtained from me, I'd be marching to her house to pick said dog and the litter that was produced. It's in my contract that dogs must be spay/nuetered and any unplanned breeding the dog and pups will be taken by me.

What's worse is the original seller of the dog did not keep track of the dog to ensure it had been nuetered.
I would be too! I am sure the original breeder doesn't even know!

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:33 PM
Grrrrrr Irresponsible pet ownership, when are people going to learn. Then they wonder why so many Pet legislatures are put into place, the intention is to police people like this....but, it doesn't make any impact.

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jackson25 (Post 2918788)
I would be too! I am sure the original breeder doesn't even know!
And that's where the original problem lays.

livingdustmops 12-16-2009 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918784)
In total agreement with you. Had the dog been obtained from me, I'd be marching to her house to pick said dog and the litter that was produced. It's in my contract that dogs must be spay/nuetered and any unplanned breeding the dog and pups will be taken by me.

What's worse is the original seller of the dog did not keep track of the dog to ensure it had been nuetered.
I agree on both statements...

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2918705)
Her puppies look healthy and she said it was an unplanned breeding. What do you expect her to do with the pups? The only way to prevent things like this from happening is for breeders to spay and neuter pups before they leave but that does not usually happen, especially when pups are sold at 12 weeks.
Not necessarily.....It can be done by knowing who you sell to and keeping track of your pups, making sure that your contract is adhered to.

More and more breeder exhibitors I know are keeping their pups longer and spay nuetering before they let them go. So, another cost handed down to those that want a pup

BonBon 12-16-2009 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 2918786)
I've had you in the back of my mind all this time. Somehow, I knew you'd feel this way. I was thinking that respectable/reputable breeders would be more concerned about maintaining the integrity of their lines than with potential profits.
I just re-read what I wrote and it's not everything I meant to say. Sorry, this has just pushed my hot button today. I believe that the good breeders care deeply about their yorkies and any puppies they produce. I think this caring and concern comes (or should come) well before anything else for them.

I am curious though - why would a breeder go to the trouble of selling on limited registration and then not follow up with the new owner?

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 2918805)
I just re-read what I wrote and it's not everything I meant to say. Sorry, this has just pushed my hot button today. I believe that the good breeders care deeply about their yorkies and any puppies they produce. I think this caring and concern comes (or should come) well before anything else for them.

I am curious though - why would a breeder go to the trouble of selling on limited registration and then not follow up with the new owner?
Good question. It could be the dam or sire that produced the litter was on a contract stating that all off spring produced would be sold on spay/nueter. The breeder fulfilled her end of the contract....sold on a limited registration, money received... tah dah........

jamiee 12-16-2009 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918791)
Grrrrrr Irresponsible pet ownership, when are people going to learn. Then they wonder why so many Pet legislatures are put into place, the intention is to police people like this....but, it doesn't make any impact.

Speak for yourself...don't judge others by calling them irresponsible when you know nothing about them.

chachi 12-16-2009 01:48 PM
That male should have been neutered a long time ago. No wonder alot of breeders are just spay or neutering there pups before they leave.

BonBon 12-16-2009 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2918809)
Good question. It could be the dam or sire that produced the litter was on a contract stating that all off spring produced would be sold on spay/nueter. The breeder fulfilled her end of the contract....sold on a limited registration, money received... tah dah........
Ohhhh, I see! I don't like it but I get it.

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jamiee (Post 2918813)
Speak for yourself...don't judge others by calling them irresponsible when you know nothing about them.
It is irresponsible when you purchase a dog on a limited registration and do not spay/nueter the dog.

jackson25 12-16-2009 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jamiee (Post 2918813)
Speak for yourself...don't judge others by calling them irresponsible when you know nothing about them.
We know enough!

Brooklynn 12-16-2009 01:51 PM
I will always keep my pups longer and have them spayed/neutered before they EVER leave my house :)

Donna

Mardelin 12-16-2009 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 2918817)
Ohhhh, I see! I don't like it but I get it.
So, there's much more to placing on limited registration than just marking that little box. It's up to the breeder to do follow up work, keep in contact with their families.....know who they're placing dogs with....a mutual trust.
My families always call me on the day of the spay/nueter to inform that all is well. That's not in my contract but because there is ongoing communication, it's just something they do.


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