Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4077477)

Interesting thread. Am I to understand that it is wrong to be of the "opinion" that the deliberate breeding for tiny Yorkies is not acceptable on YT anymore? I see more and more posts by people who object to those "trouble makers" who "stir the pot" by posting their adverse "opinions" about such breeders.

I realize this thread is old and has been seemingly reactivated by someone but since there are some well respected breeders here I wonder what your opinion is on the subject. I am not a breeder but I am adamint in my opposition of those who risk the health and welfare of any breed by irresponsible breeding practices. Yet, the trend seems to be more and more toward turning a blind eye to this type of thing. Maybe because of the influx of pet owners who prefer the tiny pocketbook pets?

I would never come against the owner of such a dog but when people start naming such breeders is it wrong to state the facts about bad breeding practices? Is an adverse "opinion" wrong to give? Is it a responsibility to warn people of the consequences of such breeding? Or is it more acceptable just to say nothing? Is it now more PC to accept the current trend to buy from those who exploit the breed for profit?

Originally Posted by rubyspuppies (Post 4074099)

I am also EDUCATED on yorkshire terriors, 25 years. You ladies are talking "opinion" based on "some" bad breeders, mills, dogs bred too small, mothers forced to have puppies who are too small etc....not facts of particular breeders or their dogs/pups. I was advising all that Precious Yorkies has healthy, beautiful, award winning dogs/pups. My comment was to the woman who say "oh she is breeding small yorkies...not good."....giving a bad impression of her dogs or her breeding standards and sense. There is a HUGE difference Precious Yorkies and their dogs/pups compared to what that woman thought was "not good". People who assume things are not good is OPINION withOUT the facts as was also an assumption I am not EDUCATED on yorkies like someone who may respond. Postings on facebook or yorkie forums are supposed to be non judemental because people do not have any facts.....you dont use a public board to share your own uneducated opinions about a person or a business that you know nothing about. That is slander and be careful because that is a criminal offense. :)

Originally Posted by TashiRIP (Post 4077800)

Her yorkies look unnatural honestly, I work at my Aunts vet I see a fair amount of yorkies from breeders the eyes on some of them are bulgy and that much money ? Bit of my yorkies have been about 350-425 and my new girl Yumi is small but I did not buy her for that purpose...what does it matter size or shape look for small breeders in your area that will let you go to their home and pick up the puppy that's too much money

Originally Posted by rubyspuppies (Post 4073534)

Prices are high for such small pups because they are rare.

Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 4077671)

You'll ve hard oressed to find any reputable breeder who (with the acception of color only from parti breeders)would advocate for any breeding other than to priduce to standard.

Every repytable breeder I know if has encountered a tiny, runt, they place them as pet only with special needs in specific homes-I've always heard breeders express the gealth &the safety concerns if tinies...let alone genuine upset at the purposeful breeding for and of them.
It is ceterinary standard opinion NO DOG OF ANY BREED UNDER 5LBS SHOULD EVER BE BRED-as in never ever.
That says a lot IMHOpinion.

Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4078197)

Here I am in the breeders section and I still see push back toward reputable breeders who do not accept the breeding of Yorkies toward the tiny size. (I have to comment that the dogs in question in this thread almost look as though there had been an out cross to a Shih Tzu considering the head shape. That is not natural for a Yorkie head type)
In the general discussion area it is almost taboo to speak against tiny breeding. People want it! The general public can only find tiny breeders when they do an internet search and I suppose they assume it is common practice in the Yorkie world. It seems YT should be the place people can go to find the truth about such practices. If anyone cared that is.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4099158)

On her Facebook page she had a maltese listed at 4 months old being under a lb, she said it was going to be extremely tiny, etc. Someone had posted that tinies are unhealthy. I then posted that at 4 months old, it still had a lot of growing left to do and that the right home would be needed because smaller ones require someone who knows what they're doing. She deleted my post and considered it rude!

A smaller dog does have more concerns, they are more like a baby. Plus, at 4 months it DOES still have some growing to do, 4 months is not an adult dog! She deletes comments on her Facebook page-I've seen it before- and any mention of prices too. Right now she has a puppy for $9,500+. She has puppies on "reserve" for upcoming litters but constantly lists new ones, that's pretty shady.