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Ladylu 12-09-2009 09:48 PM
John and Margaret Smith in East Texas?
 
Is anyone familiar with this breeder couple? Just thought I'd check before I put a deposit down. Thanks!

Brooklynn 12-10-2009 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladylu (Post 2910219)
Is anyone familiar with this breeder couple? Just thought I'd check before I put a deposit down. Thanks!
East Texas in known for backyard breeders in most cases. Again, I think you've had some suggestions to find a reputable breeder that is involved in bettering the breed and not just breeding to supply the pet market. I understand you are not wanting to pay over $500 for a puppy. Why don't you wait and start a savings account to the amount that would get you a better puppy and you can start your research for a very good reputable breeder instead of wanting one that might end up costing way more than you ever expected in health care issues. I highly suggest to do more research and start saving to buy a better bred dog.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Mardelin 12-10-2009 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2910456)
East Texas in known for backyard breeders in most cases. Again, I think you've had some suggestions to find a reputable breeder that is involved in bettering the breed and not just breeding to supply the pet market. I understand you are not wanting to pay over $500 for a puppy. Why don't you wait and start a savings account to the amount that would get you a better puppy and you can start your research for a very good reputable breeder instead of wanting one that might end up costing way more than you ever expected in health care issues. I highly suggest to do more research and start saving to buy a better bred dog.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers
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Totally agree Donna.

Mardelin 12-10-2009 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladylu (Post 2910219)
Is anyone familiar with this breeder couple? Just thought I'd check before I put a deposit down. Thanks!
Do they have a kennel name.....website?

East Texas is noted for BYBers, Puppy Mills and those that sell their dogs at the Canton Flea Market.

yorkiemama1986 12-10-2009 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladylu (Post 2910219)
Is anyone familiar with this breeder couple? Just thought I'd check before I put a deposit down. Thanks!

i bought a male from them a few years back...and he was a beautiful puppy. i paid like 600 bucks for him and all was well until he bit my son. i have never had a problem with a yorkie being tempermental. but i thought they were very nice and always answered questions i had regarding his care. i no longer have him...but if i had to choose again i would call them. the only thing i didnt like was how i received him....when he was old enought o pick up they met me in a walmart parkinglot and had him in a playpen. when i asked to come by they kept putting it off. and i know she has more than 20 or 30 breeding females so all year long they have 2 or 3 litters available at once...there is never a point they dont have pups

www.littlehappyheartskennel.com

jp4m2 12-10-2009 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemama1986 (Post 2910497)
i bought a male from them a few years back...and he was a beautiful puppy. i paid like 600 bucks for him and all was well until he bit my son. i have never had a problem with a yorkie being tempermental. but i thought they were very nice and always answered questions i had regarding his care. i no longer have him...but if i had to choose again i would call them. the only thing i didnt like was how i received him....when he was old enought o pick up they met me in a walmart parkinglot and had him in a playpen. when i asked to come by they kept putting it off. and i know she has more than 20 or 30 breeding females so all year long they have 2 or 3 litters available at once...there is never a point they dont have pups

www.littlehappyheartskennel.com

You would call them again??....I certainly would NOT recommend a breeder who would not let you see where the pup's are raised....That is a huge red flag that something is wrong......20-30 females!....Again how could they give that many dogs the proper care and attention they need......I would certainly look elsewhere for a pup......Sounds like a mill.......

yorkiemama1986 12-10-2009 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 2910543)
You would call them again??....I certainly would NOT recommend a breeder who would not let you see where the pup's are raised....That is a huge red flag that something is wrong......20-30 females!....Again how could they give that many dogs the proper care and attention they need......I would certainly look elsewhere for a pup......Sounds like a mill.......

yea well at the time i was naive....and no it was a typo..my keys stick. i wouldn't call. sorry. because i remember asking her about his papers i lost and she never sent me a replacement. took forever. and when i asked about her retired females to be a pet she was rude. i even asked her tospay them before hand and it was just BLAH

jp4m2 12-10-2009 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemama1986 (Post 2910553)
yea well at the time i was naive....and no it was a typo..my keys stick. i wouldn't call. sorry. because i remember asking her about his papers i lost and she never sent me a replacement. took forever. and when i asked about her retired females to be a pet she was rude. i even asked her tospay them before hand and it was just BLAH
That's good to know......Maybe you should share your experience in the review section so others would know this place has some problems.......

cj125 12-10-2009 12:09 PM
They have approximately 16 puppies listed on petfinder ranging from 4 weeks up! :thumbdown

If you go on their website and look up available puppies... then look at the names of the parents... I could only find one that they had under their sires. :confused:

No - I wouldn't suggest these people.

cj125 12-10-2009 12:12 PM
Good Lord - she's letting these puppies go to new homes at 6 weeks old!!!
Oh, unless they're going to be shipped then you have to wait until they're 8 weeks old!!! :mad:

yorkiemama1986 12-10-2009 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 2910611)
Good Lord - she's letting these puppies go to new homes at 6 weeks old!!!
Oh, unless they're going to be shipped then you have to wait until they're 8 weeks old!!! :mad:

Well that must be new...i remember when i put the deposit down on rambo he was 5 or 6 weeks and wasn't allowed to get him til he was 8 weeks exactly. now its younger? i know she takes deposits at like 4 which even then i think is too soon because anything can happen, even until the 8th or 12th week. i know he was hypogycemic the night i brought him home but was overall healthy minus one ear infection

yorkiemama1986 12-10-2009 12:27 PM
whoah....i just looked at site again....and right now she has 7litters available for chistmas....ugh. i can barely handle my one. lol. she use to only do 3-4 at a time...and imagine...between 400-700 a piece??? thats a great retirement income. :rolleyes:

www.yorkielittlehappyheartskennel.com

Brooklynn 12-10-2009 01:01 PM
As said, East Texas is KNOWN for BYB's and Puppy mills selling at the flea market in Canton, Texas.....no reputable breeder would sell at a flea market UGH.....I wish people would really reconsider wanting a puppy for nothing and not try and save to buy the best puppy from a reputable breeder. Patience is the key and not wanting something "NOW" and buy from the wrong person!

Donna

jackson25 12-10-2009 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemama1986 (Post 2910626)
whoah....i just looked at site again....and right now she has 7litters available for chistmas....ugh. i can barely handle my one. lol. she use to only do 3-4 at a time...and imagine...between 400-700 a piece??? thats a great retirement income. :rolleyes:

www.yorkielittlehappyheartskennel.com
They are not breeding for the best of the breed or they would not be making any money! Having that many puppies is disgusting!:mad:RUN!

jackson25 12-10-2009 01:10 PM
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