moon valley kennel

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Gracie1964

Hello,
This is Steven from Graysons Kennels, we did not purchase moon valley kennel or
moon valley terriers what ever name she is currently going by. Let me make this very
clear, we are NOT connected to moon valley in any form or fashion period. We here
at Graysons Kennels have a good and valued reputation. We are a small kennel and will remain small, we have no desire to ever reach the numbers that are listed on here in regards to moon valley yorkies and betty womack. We do know of moon valley and there owner and have seen the news reports. This is a kennel and owner we do not care to be in contact with or connected to EVER. Thank You, Hope Everyones Furbabiies are well.

Thank you for clarifying this.

The link the above poster listed does link to Grayson Kennels, is that not you? If not, the wrong name/wrong link is posted above That doesn't look good, I wonder if Admin could change it?

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[Gracie1964]

Hello,
NO I am not moon valley terriers, I don't know why it was doing that but I contacted my server and the adm. of YT and it is fixed. Thank You for pointing that out to me.
Hope your having a great day.

[ILOVEYORKSHIRES]

Sorry Steven I guess I should of gotten my facts straight before I posted that.

[livingdustmops]

Actually it was a good thing for him so he could straighten out what was happening...

[Gracie1964]

No problem at all. We have worked very hard to have a good reputation and we are proud of our name. We strive to be the very best we can be, improve our lines, and spoil our Yorkies. Quality not quantity. Take Care All

[urbnalbino]

Okay everyone, this has gone on for way too long. For the past few months, I've been keeping track of all the garbage that Steven's been posting about us, he's been sending us nasty emails and he's been buying up as many domains related to us as possible. I've been holding my tongue and have been trying to ignore all the lies, but this is it.

First of all -- check out the WhoIS Information for all these domains. They belong to Graysons Kennels (Steven Potter). He owns 18 domains in all. These are only the ones I know about pertaining to us. Who knows what other domains he owns. All except for the bettwomack.com redirects back to his website. For those of you who don't know about webdesign, this is a very easy thing to do. (We do the same thing with our website - if you go to MoonValleyKennel.com or AYorkieIsForever.com, it will redirect to MoonValleyYorkies.com)

Click these links for the WhoIS Registrant Info - Public record

BettyWomack.com - Bettywomack.com - Betty Womack (Betty Womack is my mother)

MoonValleyKennels.com - Moonvalleykennels.com - Moon Valley Kennels

MoonValleyYorkie.com - Moonvalleyyorkie.com - Moon Valley Yorkie

Steven and my mom were "friends" for years, and recently had a falling out in November 09. Of course, Steven is a local competitor, and his kennel is about 45 minutes away from us. We have largely chosen to ignore his antics partially because this whole ordeal is extremely childish, and because of his past, we are a little afraid of what he could do. Steven is a convicted felon - he served 5 years of a 12 year sentence in Illinois for armed robbery. (If anyone would a copy of his background check, I'll be more than happy to email it to you.) I would sort of rather leave him alone and let him do what he wants, than any other possible alternative. My family believes he is dangerous.

A lot of Steven says is are also all lies - we have dogs in our kennel from Steven, and Steven has dogs in his kennel from us. Like I said, he and my mom used to be friends and they had a partnership. He is making up new email addresses, and emailing us anonymously, and is making up new YT usernames so he can make malicious posts about us. If the board moderator would request the server log he would see that these names he's making up all the share the same IP address. (Come on people, 1 post per username, created Feb. 2010? Be smart.)

Case in point - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...e-opinion.html

This person who posted this saw Steven's booth at the flea market. He lied in his post saying that he screens each 'client' of his and the puppies in the window were his personal pets, and that he left because he felt people viewed his flea market store as bad. Actually, he was selling puppies at the market for 2-3 years left and right, and he left the flea market because he was kicked out for starting drama with the flea market owner and other puppy sellers at the flea market. (Call or email for yourself and ask -- (423) 337-3532 or info@sweetwaterfleamarket.net -- ask for the office manager, Angie)
He really did have a nice booth, and it was inside, not outside with the other breeders. But the other things he said were not true.

I just ask that people make their own opinion instead of letting Steven feed you his lines of bull crap. He is going to try everything he can to get under our skin, steal as much business as possible from us and ruin our reputation. Fortunately for us, posting a couple of false comments on YT won't ruin us as much as he wished it would. I don't want to reciprocate the maliciousness that Steven is doing to us. We are bigger than that, and we don't spend every waking hour trying to think of new ways to hurt him. That is what Steven does.

[AprilLove]

Its sad that people bring their quabbles to YT.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

Its sad that people bring their quabbles to YT. What is even sadder is that the kennel(s) in question, it all seems to be about the "business" of breeding, stealing "business" from a competitor. That does not sound like reputable breeding to me (jmo)

I can't help but feel for any YorKies or dogs that are being bred only as a means of providing a living to the people breeding them.

For the record, I have not met or know of either party in question, just looked at websites and reading past posts of some involved, so I am just stating my observations from such

I agree with every word you wrote....

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I agree with every word you wrote....

Thanks Cindy,
You know I wrote it, then deleted some thinking I don't want to upset anyone, but you know what, its exactly how I feel. Glad you quoted me, because I can't go back and edit again

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

Thanks Cindy,
You know I wrote it, then deleted some thinking I don't want to upset anyone, but you know what, its exactly how I feel. Glad you quoted me, because I can't go back and edit again

I know it is tough to post on some threads but we need more people standing up and saying enough is enough in regards to volume breeders, greeders, byb's and people making a living off of selling dogs.

Sure they are seem nice and have nice websites but behind the pretty curtains is a lot of animals dying for them and the taxpayer is picking up the tab. Hmmm reminds me of Washington...hmmm

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by urbnalbino

Okay everyone, this has gone on for way too long. For the past few months, I've been keeping track of all the garbage that Steven's been posting about us, he's been sending us nasty emails and he's been buying up as many domains related to us as possible. I've been holding my tongue and have been trying to ignore all the lies, but this is it.

First of all -- check out the WhoIS Information for all these domains. They belong to Graysons Kennels (Steven Potter). He owns 18 domains in all. These are only the ones I know about pertaining to us. Who knows what other domains he owns. All except for the bettwomack.com redirects back to his website. For those of you who don't know about webdesign, this is a very easy thing to do. (We do the same thing with our website - if you go to MoonValleyKennel.com or AYorkieIsForever.com, it will redirect to MoonValleyYorkies.com)

Click these links for the WhoIS Registrant Info - Public record

BettyWomack.com - Bettywomack.com - Betty Womack (Betty Womack is my mother)

MoonValleyKennels.com - Moonvalleykennels.com - Moon Valley Kennels

MoonValleyYorkie.com - Moonvalleyyorkie.com - Moon Valley Yorkie

Steven and my mom were "friends" for years, and recently had a falling out in November 09. Of course, Steven is a local competitor, and his kennel is about 45 minutes away from us. We have largely chosen to ignore his antics partially because this whole ordeal is extremely childish, and because of his past, we are a little afraid of what he could do. Steven is a convicted felon - he served 5 years of a 12 year sentence in Illinois for armed robbery. (If anyone would a copy of his background check, I'll be more than happy to email it to you.) I would sort of rather leave him alone and let him do what he wants, than any other possible alternative. My family believes he is dangerous.

A lot of Steven says is are also all lies - we have dogs in our kennel from Steven, and Steven has dogs in his kennel from us. Like I said, he and my mom used to be friends and they had a partnership. He is making up new email addresses, and emailing us anonymously, and is making up new YT usernames so he can make malicious posts about us. If the board moderator would request the server log he would see that these names he's making up all the share the same IP address. (Come on people, 1 post per username, created Feb. 2010? Be smart.)

Case in point - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...e-opinion.html

This person who posted this saw Steven's booth at the flea market. He lied in his post saying that he screens each 'client' of his and the puppies in the window were his personal pets, and that he left because he felt people viewed his flea market store as bad. Actually, he was selling puppies at the market for 2-3 years left and right, and he left the flea market because he was kicked out for starting drama with the flea market owner and other puppy sellers at the flea market. (Call or email for yourself and ask -- (423) 337-3532 or info@sweetwaterfleamarket.net -- ask for the office manager, Angie)
He really did have a nice booth, and it was inside, not outside with the other breeders. But the other things he said were not true.

I just ask that people make their own opinion instead of letting Steven feed you his lines of bull crap. He is going to try everything he can to get under our skin, steal as much business as possible from us and ruin our reputation. Fortunately for us, posting a couple of false comments on YT won't ruin us as much as he wished it would. I don't want to reciprocate the maliciousness that Steven is doing to us. We are bigger than that, and we don't spend every waking hour trying to think of new ways to hurt him. That is what Steven does.

Thank you for explaining your side of it. I know there are always 2 sides.

[SDRichards]

Hi guys this is Susan I own four Yorkies! Three came from Moon Valley Kennels. I am a friend of Betty's and became her friend after visiting the Kennel prior to purchasing my secoond yorkie. She spent a very long time on the phone trying to help me with some issues with my first Yorkie, which was not from her Kennel!!! Betty is a wonderful person and loves her Babies at the kennel. She is very honest and trustworthy and I can't stand to see her upset or hurt by the untruths that certain people want to post out of jealousy or greed or both!!! My daughter has a learning disability and Betty has helped her to express herself more clearly through those wonderful dogs at her kennel. Betty is kind and patient and so caring to everyone she meets! My daughter begs to go to see Miss Betty!! I never knew that these dogs would also allow me to make a great new friend. The kennel is sooo clean I could eat off the floor!( I am extremely picky about the hygiene since I am a nurse) I love to go and hold puppies and Momma's and also the father of my 2 boys Johnny. The most beautiful and wonderful boy yorkie you will ever see! This is a wonderful Christian family who do not deserve the terror being inflicted on them. Shame on the person from the nearby kennel who obviuosly has nothing better to do than try to destroy another's reputation! I suggest you get a life, join the YMCA , a craft class, yoga or visit a therapist and leave Betty alone! I am a very good judge of character and have not lived here all my life and am very objective and know she is not deserving of all of this. The only Betty deserves is a special place in heaven for all the good things she does. P.S. When I take my Yorkies to visit Betty they go crazy when they figure out we are going to the kennel, they hardly can contain themselves. You should see how they love her! Does that sound like a bad breeder to you!!??? I dont think so!

[SDRichards]

Originally Posted by Bianca

Thank you for explaining your side of it. I know there are always 2 sides.

Yes there are always two sides to every story!!!!

[SDRichards]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I know it is tough to post on some threads but we need more people standing up and saying enough is enough in regards to volume breeders, greeders, byb's and people making a living off of selling dogs.

Sure they are seem nice and have nice websites but behind the pretty curtains is a lot of animals dying for them and the taxpayer is picking up the tab. Hmmm reminds me of Washington...hmmm

No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!

[SDRichards]

Originally Posted by Bianca

Thank you for explaining your side of it. I know there are always 2 sides.

This is unbelievable !!!! Thanks for the post!