Fancy Pups In Texas???
 

They have Very beautiful babies..But Before I made an appointment with them, I wanted to know if they are Good Breeders.
I feel good about them, But It seems that everyone I have chosen has been bad. I am HOPING this is not case with them. Does any one know anything about them, or have any intell?
Thanks,
Jayden
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Web Site
 

Soory But I Forgot To Include it.

Here It Is.
Yorkshire Terriers Houston TX|Teacup Yorkies For Sale

Can you post a website? It helps people look for redflags who do not know this breeder.

Yorkshire Terriers Houston TX|Teacup Yorkies For Sale

Sorry bout that, I forgot to include it.

There is not much information on the website, but what there is sends up many red flags for me. First, the puppies are being sold at only eight weeks old. Yorkie puppies should not be sold until they are at least 12 weeks old according to the YTCA.

Why is there a one day viewing tomorrow only? That is very suspicious to me.

There are no adult dogs shown, no basic information or pedigrees, no health guarantee or contract. They stress cash and carry.

I would not even consider this breeder.

It seems a little odd that there's no info about the parent dogs there... it really makes me wonder if they're reselling pups from other locations.

alot of there puppies are born on different dates in the same month and on or two does not look full blooded

Well, I didn't recognize the Fancy Pups name but I was curious since it was in Texas so I went to look at the site. I clicked on "about us" and as soon as that picture popped up, I knew who it was. Their names are Jon and Jimmie Rascoe and they are in Manvel, TX (right outside Houston). That's who we got Tatum from 5 years ago. I can only tell you that we are very happy with Tatum. Besides the fact that she's got the best personality (for us), she's not had one single serious health issue. By that I mean anything hereditary or breed-oriented. Our search for a Yorkie pup was a little scary and I was quite naive about the breed. We almost got suckered in by a lady named Betty (she's been discussed here at great lengths) but after leaving her house (or dump) puppy-less, we went to the Rascoe's house (we saw their ad in the Houston Chronicle). We were actually very pleased with the house and with Jimmie (the woman) and we were shown the parents (or so she claimed - I guess you never really know for sure) but I was told that the other puppies were out in the kennel. From a quick glance, it looked like a big building that was probably AC controlled and all of that but like I said, I was naive about the whole thing and didn't ask a lot of questions. I do know she/they bred other breeds because she had a dog (can't remember the breed right now) in labor in the house when we were there. They seemed very caring and the puppies that she brought into the house for us to look at (because I told her I was looking specifically for a female) looked to be very well taken care of. Jimmie showed us how to trim Tatum's ears and did it for us (although they had already been trimmed previously) so that we could see exactly how to do it. She also sent us home with a new tube of Nutrical and gave us the speech about what it was for.

Maybe more than you wanted to know but I just wanted you to know that someone has had experience with them. I don't know if I would buy from them again - I honestly can't say - but what we did get from them is 100% lovable, healthy Yorkie. Good luck in your search!

Went to look at their site a little more and I've gotta say..... "Gracie" (female pup) is pretty darn cute! "Giggles" too.

Thank You So Much For Intell. I am Glad That You Had A pleasent eperiance with them. I spoke with Jimmie tearly today, & she seemed very nice. I have been looking for a female yorkie for almost a year now. & I also almost got suckerd in by a man named Jeff Dane. Yorkie Pup .com Home page. Teacup Toy & Standard Yorkies
I am sooo very thankful that I found YorkieTalk.com & found out that I would have been making a horrible mistake.

These people are brokers not breeders. Just ask them and they will tell you. They are very nice and know alot about the breed, but they do not have the parents at their home. Just be very careful....

I'm sorry but I don't know what the diffrence is..Are they a puppy mill?
Can someone inform PLEASE? I go to see them tomorrow.

Brokers don't breed the puppies themselves. They are the middleman between the wholesale breeder and the consumer. Puppies purchased through brokers are almost always from large commericial kennels aka "puppymills".

Reputable breeders care about where their puppies go and would never allow a third party to sell them.

Puppies sold through brokers are a cash crop. They are bred for profit only with no concern for the breed standard, genetic heath issues, etc.

It's cash and carry. The worst way to buy a puppy IMO.

Here is an article to read:

Puppy Broker: A Puppy Mill Reseller

While I have to agree that she is probably not the breeder of all of the puppies she sells (which is why I said I can't be sure that I was actually shown Tatum's true parents), I do think she had a very nice, clean set-up and that she really cares for the puppies. I was shown 3 different females when I went and they all were very nice looking. I do (and always have) hestitate to recommend the Rascoes with my whole heart but they are not the worst people out there, that's for sure. I would most definitely prefer to see the OP purchase from them vs. Jeff Dane! And even Betty (that I mentioned earlier)!

I do know that the IDEAL person to buy from is someone that breeds their own adults that are perfect specimens, give a long health guarantee, raises the puppies underfoot, only has maybe 1 litter a year or every 2 years.... the list can go on and on..... BUT there are not all that many of those kind of breeders in our area.

Again, I also said that I'm not sure I would buy from the Rascoes again but I do know that we got very lucky with Tatum - she's perfect in her size, very healthy and has the very best personality. So I can only speak from my own personal experience.

I say go talk to them, ask a ton of questions, see what she'll show you and go with your gut. Good luck!

Not really much info on the site to go by, but what little info that is there presents some red flags. :thumbdown I would keep looking.

I sent you a PM.

There are twenty breeders from Texas on the YTCA breeder's list. That's where you should be looking so you don't keep finding "bad" breeders as you say.

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club

I'm curious to know if anyone in the Houston area has dealt with any of these listed TX YTCA breeders. Just in case we decide to go that route the next time we get a Yorkie, I'd like to know if anyone has any opinions of them.

I do remember now that I talked to at least 4 or 5 of these that are listed when we were searching for Tatum but the ones that were within reasonable driving distance for us did not have any available pups (specifically, females). AND a couple of them were actually quite rude when I called them. Wouldn't hurt for the OP to try contacting them though. Maybe she'll have better luck.

Just out of curiosity again..... what exactly makes these people better than other breeders? What are the qualifications for being in the YTCA and how can we be so sure that these people are more trustworthy than other breeders?

YTCA members and recommended breeders have to adhere to the YTCA code of ethics and guidelines, which are listed on the site. Other breeders do not have any guildelines to meet. Does it mean that only YTCA members/recommended breeders are running ethical, responsible programs? No, of course not. But if it's a YTCA recommended breeder, you already know that certain crucial criteria are being met. :)

And who is checking up on all these members to make sure that everything is up to code?

That is a question you would need to ask the YTCA. Are you aware of some that are NOT conforming to the code of ethics, or is this mere speculation?
It's something that ultimately prospective new owners need to see first hand and judge for themselves.
It doesn't mean that everyone of the breeders is perfect, but IMO, starting within a system where there are some guidelines in place is better than starting where there are none at all. Most of us follow that logic on various levels already.
Again, it doesn't guarantee perfection, but is a good option to have for someone new to the breed.

No, not at all. I never said that. I'm just trying to understand how it all works. We are not planning on another Yorkie any time soon (we love our only-child furkid status right now) but for the future, I'd like to be more informed.

My opinion still stands regarding the Rascoes but I never said there weren't red flags there. I don't think anyone is perfect but I have seen first-hand where she lives and have dealt with her personally so I gave my opinion based on my experiences. It would not hurt for the OP to check out all of her options - especially if none of the YTCA breeders have something she's looking for.

I sent the OP a private message about Fancy Pups, but will post a short version here, also. I purchased a female puppy from Fancy Pups last year when I was totally uneducated about breeders, brokers, back yard breeders, etc. and I certainly paid the price...literally. We spent the first weekend in the Emergency Hospital with this little female who had several problems. I, too, think Jimmie Rascoe was very kind and cares about these dogs, but I don't think she has any idea about their health when she is brokering them and not breeding them. I am so happy, TatumsMom, that you had a great experience with them. I, too, love my precious baby girl more than I can ever express - but it was definitely a rough go of it at first....one that should not have happened and one that I would not wish on anyone else. I have since bought two other babies from a breeder and have not had one single problem with either...what a difference a good breeder makes!

Oh I know you didn't say that. Just with the way you worded your reply it kind of indicated (to me) that maybe you did....thus why I asked for clarification. :) No worries.

Of course if you feel strongly about any one breeder and have first hand knowledge, why wouldn't you stand by your opinion? That's expected. :) Of course there is no guaratee that a YTCA breeders would be able to accomodate--but the suggestion shouldn't be shot down just because one person didn't have any luck exploring that option.
Agreed though, definately good to check all options and to make sure you possess the knowledge to make an informed decision. :thumbup:

I'm so sorry that happened to you. Like I've said, we got very lucky with Tatum - especially being inexperienced with this breed. And no, Jimmie couldn't possibly know the health background of all of these puppies that she's selling. Health issues can happen with even the best breeder's dogs though too. I'm definitely not trying to push the Rascoes on anyone. I've already said a few times that I don't know that I would purchase from them again. I agree that the OP should do tons of research to find the best breeder she can afford.

Well that speaks volumes, in particular if you see this as a concern and actually have had first hand experience with them. Yes, health issues can and do happen in even the best of breeding programs--but that does NOT justfy having no background knowledge of the dogs to begin with! Why take a chance like that if you know in advance that there is some vital info missing!? :eek: That's just begging for a problem, IMO. Yeah, it *could* happen with any other breeder, but why increase your chances by choosing someone that you know ahead of time is playing with fire? :(

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Brokers sell puppy mill puppies who have had no genetic screening or health testing. You are playing Russian Roulette with the future health of your puppy.

Remember, just because your puppy doesn\'t get sick or have symptoms right away does mean they are healthy. Poorly bred puppies can carry genetic time bombs that may not go off for years. My Lady is a rescue, but poorly bred. She was perfectly healthy until she was four years old. Then her genetic time bombs started going off and she was first diagnosed with epilepsy, then a year and a half later, diabetes. Over the years she has developed other health conditions.

I spend $5,000 a year on medications, diabetic supplies and routine vet visits to monitor all her conditions. This does not include emergencies which usually add another $1,000 to that figure.

My advice, take it or leave it, is to pay a few hundred dollars more upfront to get a puppy from a responsible breeder who is health testing the dogs she breeds and carefully breeding to avoid genetic conditions. It will save you a lot of money and heartbreak later on.

I considered buying from the Rascoe\'s before I got Canyon. The Rascoe\'s are brokers.