Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2445726)

I think many people read these threads and wonder what's all the fuss about. Why can't people just buy whatever pup they like, they are all beautiful. As the OP understood in post 12, this is not about beauty, it really is about the health of the dogs. I'm an advocate of good breeding, and I feel that breeders, who specialize in any rare trait, whether it is the Parti trait, extra tiny size, or apple head, are hurting the breed. Some breeders don't believe that they are harming the breed, but since they sell their dogs to others for breeding purposes, (many with no real breeding credentials) and also encourage the popularity of the anomalies, they are indeed hurting the breed. Good breeding involves many different things; it's a science as well as an art. As I have done more research on the subject of breeding, I've come to believe that because we kill millions of dogs yearly in pounds, responsible breeding is extremely important. Reading the sick and emergency forums reiterates the need for responsible breeding, not just beautiful dogs. There is a very real concern with breeding for the recessive trait, and offspring should be monitored and tested for the incidence of disease. So for me, this isn't just about beautiful dogs. Now I'm sure some of you will say, there's way more normal looking yorkies in the sick and emergency forum than there are partis, and I just want to say, "UNCLE."

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2445726)

I think many people read these threads and wonder what's all the fuss about. Why can't people just buy whatever pup they like, they are all beautiful. As the OP understood in post 12, this is not about beauty, it really is about the health of the dogs. I'm an advocate of good breeding, and I feel that breeders, who specialize in any rare trait, whether it is the Parti trait, extra tiny size, or apple head, are hurting the breed. Some breeders don't believe that they are harming the breed, but since they sell their dogs to others for breeding purposes, (many with no real breeding credentials) and also encourage the popularity of the anomalies, they are indeed hurting the breed. Good breeding involves many different things; it's a science as well as an art. As I have done more research on the subject of breeding, I've come to believe that because we kill millions of dogs yearly in pounds, responsible breeding is extremely important. Reading the sick and emergency forums reiterates the need for responsible breeding, not just beautiful dogs. There is a very real concern with breeding for the recessive trait, and offspring should be monitored and tested for the incidence of disease. So for me, this isn't just about beautiful dogs. Now I'm sure some of you will say, there's way more normal looking yorkies in the sick and emergency forum than there are partis, and I just want to say, "UNCLE."

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 2446107)

Isn't this true of any breeding program, though? Breeding for any trait besides health reduces the gene pool, and makes the breed less robust. Even in breeding for health, you might reduce the chances for one disease and accidentally increase the chances for another. In fact, simply breeding pure breds at all by definition indicates you are working with a limited gene pool.

Personally, I'm curious as to whether the parti coloring is controlled by one gene or many. It would appear to me to most likely be the later. Any opinions?

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2446159)

These views were obtained from Yorkietalk, and haven't been throughly researched.

Originally Posted by Missiemiss (Post 2446189)

It is my opinion that views have been expressed and this thread has gone as far as it can go. We have seen personal attacks and THAT is not what this forum is about.

Deep breathes people!

I would recommend to close the thread but that's not my call to make. I just think it's a good idea for the sake of the forum.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2445986)

So they are not registered in the existing registries? I'm not sure of all of the various registries out there, just the AKC and he CKC, but i know there are others. Pruett had said they were registered as yorkies, just before she was escorted from the forum and her post deleted.

Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2446228)

I don't see anywhere that Gayle posted that the Biewer Terriers are being registered as yorkies. Maybe you need to clarify that statement as it is very misleading.
Being that you have a Parti yorkie and not a Biewer, again I am going to ask you, why are you so insistant on knowing what is in the Biewer Breed? Wouldn't you be better served testing your Parti yorkie to see if there isn't anything bred into it to make it so white?

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2446205)

The last few pages there have been no fights. QuickSilver asked a new question, and wanted people's opinion on it. Personally, I would like to see one Parti thread not closed.

Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2446228)

I don't see anywhere that Gayle posted that the Biewer Terriers are being registered as yorkies. Maybe you need to clarify that statement as it is very misleading.
Being that you have a Parti yorkie and not a Biewer, again I am going to ask you, why are you so insistant on knowing what is in the Biewer Breed? Wouldn't you be better served testing your Parti yorkie to see if there isn't anything bred into it to make it so white?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2446265)

IMO the same gene that was in these dogs that made them have white is the same gene that make partis white.

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2446280)

Cant we have a discussion without knocking someones dog??

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2446159)

If your desire is truly to bread only for robustness, then you should probably take man out of the mix. Nature breeds for robustness. Put 100 dogs together let them decide with whom to mate, and let them settle the arguments, and find their food. In 100 years or so, the remaining dogs will probably be very robust, but I doubt if anybody would want them as a "pet." Well, maybe Michael Vick. There's nothing wrong with breeding for certain traits if you really know what your doing. Unfortunately very few do.


From what I understand, the parti trait that is seen in many animals is controlled by one gene that is recessive. Some people believe a second gene causes the spotting you see on Biewer. These views were obtained from Yorkietalk, and haven't been throughly researched.