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steph77 12-22-2008 11:51 AM

Question about puppy pricing
 
We've already had some inquiries as to how much we will be asking for our new puppies. We have homes lined up for 3 of them already, to friends or family members, and we are just giving those away. We certainly didn't expect to have 10 babies to try to adopt out. And we sure aren't doing this for any profit...however, I don't want to simply give all of these pups away, since we will be spending money on them for food, supplies, vet care, etc. And I believe that it is much more likely that the pups will have a better chance of being taken care of if they are purchased, rather than just gotten for free.

So my question is this: What is a fair price to ask for the pups? Lilah (mommy) is without papers, but daddy has papers, so the pups are definitely just family pet quality.

Thanks for the help!

Steph

phfgkl 12-22-2008 11:54 AM

I don't really know what you should charge. We have small ones(under 7 lbs) that we can buy here for $400 for males and $500 for females.

Ashley V 12-22-2008 11:54 AM

I would estimate all the total vet care and supplies for all of the pups and divide it by how many puppies you have.

steph77 12-23-2008 08:00 AM

Do you think $200 is a fair price for puppies with no papers?

jeanief 12-23-2008 08:42 AM

I think that is a fair price. When selling them make sure to have them sign a spay/neuter contract. 10 pups, WOW :eek: You must have about fell over when the pups kept coming. :D

Nancy1999 12-23-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanief (Post 2386450)
I think that is a fair price. When selling them make sure to have them sign a spay/neuter contract. 10 pups, WOW :eek: You must have about fell over when the pups kept coming. :D

Yes, this is so important, each one of those pups have the potential to make so many puppies. I would stress that the price is so low, since you are requiring a spay/neuter contract. I'm not sure the best way to go about this, adding money to your fee, and reimbursing them once they have shown proof, might be one way to go. Even though you got many more pups than expected, I hope you will be so careful where they go, please remember that you are responsible for their welfare.

steph77 12-23-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2386467)
Yes, this is so important, each one of those pups have the potential to make so many puppies. I would stress that the price is so low, since you are requiring a spay/neuter contract. I'm not sure the best way to go about this, adding money to your fee, and reimbursing them once they have shown proof, might be one way to go. Even though you got many more pups than expected, I hope you will be so careful where they go, please remember that you are responsible for their welfare.

I absolutely agree....I am planning on taking great care in placing these precious babies. It doesn't matter to me that we got so many...I will keep them all if necessary! My husband may not be thrilled with the idea, but he agrees with me, lol. Thanks for the advice!

ashleere 12-23-2008 09:14 AM

are they yorkie pups? 10 oh my!

steph77 12-23-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ashleere (Post 2386503)
are they yorkie pups? 10 oh my!

Yep =)
What a surprise! lol

chachi 12-23-2008 11:52 AM

I think $200 is priced too low even without papers. I would be concerned with what kind of people you would get adopting at that low price. I would price them at $500

meanwi 12-23-2008 12:27 PM

I agree $200 seems too low. I bought my morkie, which is a mixed breed for $400 and obviously there was no papers with her. I would say since they are purebread even w/out papers you should be able to get $300-$350 out of them easily. The main thing is to make sure they are going to good homes!

Nancy1999 12-23-2008 12:41 PM

Price is also dependent on supply and demand. Since you are located in Missouri, you may have to charge less than other states. Most rescues charge about $300.

phfgkl 12-23-2008 01:01 PM

You all have to remember..for one thing, we're in a recession, people don't have a lot of money. Another thing is the parents are both way over standard, and with no papers. Here you can buy (with papers) a full yorkie under 7 lbs for $400-$500. When people are looking for yorkies, they're (for the most part) looking for a smaller one, so, I think $200 would be a fair price

yorkiegirl2 12-23-2008 02:15 PM

Yes, things are really tight right now.
Here in Missouri prices are running low.
I plan to selling my boys (this time) with papers for 550.00 and they will be in the 3-5 lb range.
So, I think 200 - 250 without papers for your bigger yorkies is a good price.

MindieRose 12-24-2008 10:51 AM

I think the price is very low, but I agree that it is suiting being that there are no papers and they are quite a bit over standard size. That being said though, be very careful. If you advertise yorkies at that price, you will have people knocking down your door, and many of them will want to buy them just to resell. Our first yorkie that didn't work out for our family was a "bargain" yorkie. Way over standard size and $250. Well, we were going to go back and get another one for my grandma, and she said that someone came and bought the rest, one person did. That happens so often because they will just turn around and resell them, so make sure that you really really get to know people. Once you put a price like that on them and advertise, don't be surprised if you get litterally hundreds of people inquiring. You will have no problem being able to be picky about where they go. Some people can be very deceptive, so be careful!

Ashley V 12-24-2008 11:41 AM

Truthfully, I would raise the price a bit and once you chose the people to sell the pups too, surprise them with telling them that they'll get some money back once they get proof of spay/neuter. Also, put a time limit. Say that you want proof by ____ month. It's a win/win situation. You get people that are more sincere by NOT telling them that you refund some of the money once they spay/neuter and it's pretty much guarenteed they'll spay/neuter their pets so there won't be "unwanted" babies running around.

browniesmom622 12-24-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V (Post 2387824)
Truthfully, I would raise the price a bit and once you chose the people to sell the pups too, surprise them with telling them that they'll get some money back once they get proof of spay/neuter. Also, put a time limit. Say that you want proof by ____ month. It's a win/win situation. You get people that are more sincere by NOT telling them that you refund some of the money once they spay/neuter and it's pretty much guarenteed they'll spay/neuter their pets so there won't be "unwanted" babies running around.

This is prefect!:thumbup:

phfgkl 12-24-2008 12:24 PM

The only problem with the above suggestion, is people may not even be interested in them with having parents that big. To be honest, if I would have known my yorkie was going to be 13 1/2 lbs. I never would have bought her. I was told around 4 lbs, and she was pretty regular sized when I bought her and her parents were both under 7 lbs. I would never get rid of her now, but, I never would have bought her if she would have had parents that size. Most people that know about yorkies, want them because they are a small dog. You have to remember, not sure how the father looks, but, I do know he's over standard size, not sure if his ears are up or not, but, I have noticed besides the mother being 20 lbs. she also has her ears down and a tail(which sure you can dock the tail). But there are 2 faults right from the get go.

browniesmom622 12-24-2008 01:52 PM

Of course people will want them There are lot's of people with children That want a yorkie so bad but because of there small size, Can't. Plus i think the mother is adorable.

Ashley V 12-24-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2387863)
The only problem with the above suggestion, is people may not even be interested in them with having parents that big. To be honest, if I would have known my yorkie was going to be 13 1/2 lbs. I never would have bought her. I was told around 4 lbs, and she was pretty regular sized when I bought her and her parents were both under 7 lbs. I would never get rid of her now, but, I never would have bought her if she would have had parents that size. Most people that know about yorkies, want them because they are a small dog. You have to remember, not sure how the father looks, but, I do know he's over standard size, not sure if his ears are up or not, but, I have noticed besides the mother being 20 lbs. she also has her ears down and a tail(which sure you can dock the tail). But there are 2 faults right from the get go.

Well I didn't mean raise the price to like $500... I meant maybe raise it to $350, then give the people a $100 discount once they prove they spayed and neutered their pet. Trust me, if there was a yorkie, standard or not for $350, I would get it! Especially a teapot! Not everyone wants a teeny tiny dog.

bailey12 12-24-2008 06:04 PM

I don't consider a tail a fault. It could have been docked, it just wasn't. Doesn't really impact the puppies. If the op decides to dock, fine, if not, well not everyone thinks that is a big deal.

Txgurl06 12-24-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2387863)
The only problem with the above suggestion, is people may not even be interested in them with having parents that big. To be honest, if I would have known my yorkie was going to be 13 1/2 lbs. I never would have bought her. I was told around 4 lbs, and she was pretty regular sized when I bought her and her parents were both under 7 lbs. I would never get rid of her now, but, I never would have bought her if she would have had parents that size. Most people that know about yorkies, want them because they are a small dog. You have to remember, not sure how the father looks, but, I do know he's over standard size, not sure if his ears are up or not, but, I have noticed besides the mother being 20 lbs. she also has her ears down and a tail(which sure you can dock the tail). But there are 2 faults right from the get go.

yes but its better not to sell a dog based on weight. I honestly think she will be following a good thing by pricing them at about 400 and then maybe refunding 100 when spayed or neutered. Here in Tx where i live to find a yorkie with papers from a okay breeder is about 700 to 800 dollars!

phfgkl 12-25-2008 07:32 AM

Well, I guess you could start out higher than lower the price, but, you have to remember, they don't have papers either. A lot of yorkie breeders are lowering their prices because of the economy and they're just not selling like they used too because of that. I know location has a lot to do with the pricing. I know as I stated before, we can buy males for $400 and females for $500 with AKC papers that are standard. Guess she's just going to have to decide on pricing herself as to how they sell in her area
I think I put down the 2 faults were the ears and size before. The fault on the mother is the tail also, but, I know the pups can have tails docked. I'm almost sure(without going back to look) that I had already said that

phfgkl 12-25-2008 07:37 AM

I just went to puppyfind and did a search in Missouri. Even though there are some that are over $1000, for the most part, the yorkies on there are $400-$600 range

steph77 12-27-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2387863)
The only problem with the above suggestion, is people may not even be interested in them with having parents that big. To be honest, if I would have known my yorkie was going to be 13 1/2 lbs. I never would have bought her. I was told around 4 lbs, and she was pretty regular sized when I bought her and her parents were both under 7 lbs. I would never get rid of her now, but, I never would have bought her if she would have had parents that size. Most people that know about yorkies, want them because they are a small dog. You have to remember, not sure how the father looks, but, I do know he's over standard size, not sure if his ears are up or not, but, I have noticed besides the mother being 20 lbs. she also has her ears down and a tail(which sure you can dock the tail). But there are 2 faults right from the get go.


Thank you for your input, however, I do not believe that my girl has any faults. Yes, she's large. Yes, she has a tail. Yes, her ears don't stand up. But in my eyes, she's perfect, and I'm sorry that you believe otherwise.

phfgkl 12-27-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by steph77 (Post 2389938)
Thank you for your input, however, I do not believe that my girl has any faults. Yes, she's large. Yes, she has a tail. Yes, her ears don't stand up. But in my eyes, she's perfect, and I'm sorry that you believe otherwise.

In your eyes, she's perfect, and that's great. I'm going by AKC.org and the faults are the weight and the ears, although the tail is a fault with akc, that was the breeder that didn't dock the tail. You're asking about pricing, and from looking in your area, you can find yorkies for $400 on up, that are registered and are in the standard

Nancy1999 12-27-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by steph77 (Post 2389938)
Thank you for your input, however, I do not believe that my girl has any faults. Yes, she's large. Yes, she has a tail. Yes, her ears don't stand up. But in my eyes, she's perfect, and I'm sorry that you believe otherwise.


Please don't take the word "fault" personally. That's the correct terminology for any quality that isn't to standard. Besides those mentioned, hair quality - texture and color, bite, and back line are few other qualities that are important. It doesn't mean that your dog isn't just as precious as another.

LuvmyYorkies2 12-27-2008 10:08 AM

I like the idea of charging around the $400 price range, then refunding a certain amount once they show proof of spay/neuter.... just as some parents who are both small end up with larger "out of standard" offspring, some of your puppies could end up on the smaller end so don't worry about or focus solely on that. Yes, a lot of people are looking for smaller yorkies but I'm seeing quite a few are preferring the ones on the larger end also. No matter what, they are going to pet homes and should go to homes who want to love them as such!
They should/will have the yorkie traits/personality regardless and even though there are preferences in terms of appearance, the most important thing is if the yorkie personality/characteristics is right for that buyer/families home.

Good Luck!!

chachi 12-27-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2389944)
In your eyes, she's perfect, and that's great. I'm going by AKC.org and the faults are the weight and the ears, although the tail is a fault with akc, that was the breeder that didn't dock the tail. You're asking about pricing, and from looking in your area, you can find yorkies for $400 on up, that are registered and are in the standard

If that is true than the $200 price is probably right but I would be careful about screening the applicants. One time I heard about a puppy priced real low and some guy wanted to buy it to feed to his snake. You just never know so you have to carefully screen especially if the price is low. Alot of people also want them to turn around and sell them at a higher price. As far as low pricing because of size I dont agree with that because there are alot of families that like larger yorkies. I know we are glad we have a larger yorkie

phfgkl 12-27-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2389970)
If that is true than the $200 price is probably right but I would be careful about screening the applicants. One time I heard about a puppy priced real low and some guy wanted to buy it to feed to his snake. You just never know so you have to carefully screen especially if the price is low. Alot of people also want them to turn around and sell them at a higher price. As far as low pricing because of size I dont agree with that because there are alot of families that like larger yorkies. I know we are glad we have a larger yorkie

How sad about the guy buying pups for his snake, some people are so arrogant
I paid $600 for my AKC yorkie that was supposed to be 4 lbs almost 6 years ago, other than her getting up to almost 14 lbs she is the right colors, ears up etc. I wouldn't give her up for the world, but, never would have bought her if the breeder would have said she would end up close to 14 lbs, she's too heavy for me to lift..:(


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