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ladyjane · 12-28-2008, 08:13 PM

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Only ressee1 and myself have had experience with this breeder. so until the rest of you do, maybe you shouldnt be pointing fingers.

Admin please close this thread.

Hahaha someone already sent admin a request to close it! But...NO ONE has posted heresay as I see it! Didn't Megansmomma SAY she spoke with the breeder?
Is this how you bail out of a mess you got yourself involved in? Run to daddy and cry foul?

cj125 · 12-28-2008, 08:16 PM

Sorry, where should I have posted it?

megansmomma · 12-28-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

Hahaha someone already sent admin a request to close it! But...NO ONE has posted heresay as I see it! Didn't Megansmomma SAY she spoke with the breeder?
Is this how you bail out of a mess you got yourself involved in? Run to daddy and cry foul?

Yes, I did and I also spoke to the 2 rescues during all of this too. So I'm not sure what you are talking about. All I'm doing is stating what YOU POSTED! I am not causing a circus.

YorkieShadow · 12-28-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

Hahaha someone already sent admin a request to close it! But...NO ONE has posted heresay as I see it! Didn't Megansmomma SAY she spoke with the breeder?
Is this how you bail out of a mess you got yourself involved in? Run to daddy and cry foul?

Lady I dont know what your problem is. But I think your actimng like a Troll.

I never got my self into any mess. whos running to daddy? my Daddys been dead sence I was 2 weeks old.so watch what you say say hun.cause your starting to get on my last nerve. and please DO NOT PM ME AGAIN.

ladyjane · 12-28-2008, 08:25 PM

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Lady I dont know what your problem is. But I think your actimng like a Troll.

I never got my self into any mess. whos running to daddy? my Daddys been dead sence I was 2 weeks old.so watch what you say say hun.cause your starting to get on my last nerve. and please DO NOT PM ME AGAIN.

I am not *lady* nor *hun* and I think you need to take your THREATS off of this board!

megansmomma · 12-28-2008, 08:26 PM

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Lady I dont know what your problem is. But I think your actimng like a Troll.

I never got my self into any mess. whos running to daddy? my Daddys been dead sence I was 2 weeks old.so watch what you say say hun.cause your starting to get on my last nerve. and please DO NOT PM ME AGAIN.

No actually she is involved in a LEGITIMATE rescue and this entire thing with you defending Maxine/yourself is crazy! Administration has closed more than one thread about this woman and the circuses involved in your rehoming efforts of her behalf. Just not good IMO

YorkieShadow · 12-28-2008, 08:27 PM

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Sorry, where should I have posted it?

No your fine. you posted in the right spot. its just that some people have went off topic. me being one, and im sorry for that.

Well I feel like they are all blaming me in some way. I had nothing to do with any of this. I only kept in touch with this breeder to update her on my Mickey and to help her rehome those Yorkies, It broke my heart to see them rehomed after useing them for breeding. I dont agree with giving breeding rights with her pups. But these are not my dogs and I have tried talking to her about that. as I stated before.But I wont post and bash her either. why she gave her pups away with breeding rights I dont know. and Im very sad that the lady who got that female was breed so young and being so small. im also very sad that where her one pup went. but it has nothing to do with me.I didnt do it. I have only tried to rehome the dogs that need homes. is that so wrong?

YorkieShadow · 12-28-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

No actually she is involved in a LEGITIMATE rescue and this entire thing with you defending Maxine/yourself is crazy! Administration has closed more than one thread about this woman and the circuses involved in your rehoming efforts of her behalf. Just not good IMO

A LEGITIMATE rescue ? what are you talking about now? Maxine has never done me wrong. and the only reason admin has closed more then one thread about this women Is because they was my threads on rehomeing the Yorkies, and I asked for them to be closed, so dont try acting like they got closed for other reasons please.

ladyjane · 12-28-2008, 08:34 PM

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No your fine. you posted in the right spot. its just that some people have went off topic. me being one, and im sorry for that.

Well I feel like they are all blaming me in some way. I had nothing to do with any of this. I only kept in touch with this breeder to update her on my Mickey and to help her rehome those Yorkies, It broke my heart to see them rehomed after useing them for breeding. I dont agree with giving breeding rights with her pups. But these are not my dogs and I have tried talking to her about that. as I stated before.But I wont post and bash her either. why she gave her pups away with breeding rights I dont know. and Im very sad that the lady who got that female was breed so young and being so small. im also very sad that where her one pup went. but it has nothing to do with me.I didnt do it. I have only tried to rehome the dogs that need homes. is that so wrong?

What is wrong...in my opinion is this:

This woman is still breeding! Are you going to help with the next batch she wants to dump? Seriously?
I am a rescuer...and I will NOT help breeders in such a way. That is only being a part of the problem.
I realize some rescuers do it, but count me OUT on that one.
I have very strong feelings about what happens to this breed and any other one...it just so happens this is my chosen breed...and I will speak up whenEVER I see them being neglected or abused in any way.
I am their advocate...the poor babies do not have any other voice than those of people who truly love them.

ladyjane · 12-28-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

Um Isent your user name Ladyjane. opps forgot the Jane.
What threats? why are you even here. get a life geez.

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so watch what you say say hun.cause your starting to get on my last nerve.

Sounds like a threat to me!

megansmomma · 12-28-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

No your fine. you posted in the right spot. its just that some people have went off topic. me being one, and im sorry for that.

Well I feel like they are all blaming me in some way. I had nothing to do with any of this. I only kept in touch with this breeder to update her on my Mickey and to help her rehome those Yorkies, It broke my heart to see them rehomed after useing them for breeding. I dont agree with giving breeding rights with her pups. But these are not my dogs and I have tried talking to her about that. as I stated before.But I wont post and bash her either. why she gave her pups away with breeding rights I dont know. and Im very sad that the lady who got that female was breed so young and being so small. im also very sad that where her one pup went. but it has nothing to do with me.I didnt do it. I have only tried to rehome the dogs that need homes. is that so wrong?

You come onto YT and offer dogs from Maxine then you sure the heck will BE HELD accountable. You are an ENABLER to her breeding irresponsible breeding pracitces and actions when you come to this forum and try to GIVE AWAY YORKIES. There is no denying this it is in black and white.

Reese1 · 12-28-2008, 08:36 PM

I do have personal experience with this breeder, as I've mentioned in this thread and in the past. Camden came from Maxine.
She had bred her, the litter didn't make it and she had her spayed and was looking to rehome her.
My experiences and my opinions are that she did not with Camden and from pictures I've seen of others provide proper medical or grooming care.
I would never expect a responsible, caring breeder to neglect and treat a dog the way Camden was treated. I have pictures and vet bills that clearly show and prove how she took care of her, or I should say DIDN'T take care of her.
As relieved as I was that some of the dogs were turned over to rescue and found loving homes, it just further proves in my mind that once her dogs that have made her money are of no use to her, she really doesn't care what happens to them or where they go.
Whether she knew this breeder was mixing breeds or not doesn't make a bit of difference to me. She knew she was a breeder and going to breed very small females. She did no research as to what type of breeder she was before selling her and/or her mother 4 dogs.
I've read breeders on here all the time that turn down people for their puppies because they don't think it's the right fit. If someone who is a breeder wanted four of my dogs, I would make sure it was a breeder that was breeding for the betterment. She didn't do that and that in my opinion shows lack of any concern about what happens to her dogs.
Camden was an abused dog, she was abused because she was sick and didn't get any treatment, she was in pain and didn't get any treatment. She was emotionally abused. She didn't know affection, she didn't have any socialization skills and was one scared and skittish Yorkie.
Her treatment of the dogs in her care and her lack of concern about the placement of her puppies or retired dogs disgusts me. She should have stuck with her original plan and retired from breeding.
I realize this thread was started about another breeder, but I'm glad it's spotlighting both. I hope enough people will read and educate themselves and not buy dogs and/or puppies from either of them.
I get so worked up because it brings me back to the day we got Camden and I cry just thinking about how sick & sad she was.
I could never be a breeder myself, but I wish that all breeders were good, responsible, loved their dogs and treated them as family. If they don't, they shouldn't be breeding and I am all for getting the word out!

YorkieShadow · 12-28-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

What is wrong...in my opinion is this:

This woman is still breeding! Are you going to help with the next batch she wants to dump? Seriously?
I am a rescuer...and I will NOT help breeders in such a way. That is only being a part of the problem.
I realize some rescuers do it, but count me OUT on that one.
I have very strong feelings about what happens to this breed and any other one...it just so happens this is my chosen breed...and I will speak up whenEVER I see them being neglected or abused in any way.
I am their advocate...the poor babies do not have any other voice than those of people who truly love them.

So you are a rescuer and you would not take in any older Yorkie looking for a home. how sad.
This is my chosen breed too, but I would not over look any breed or mix if they needed a home. I WILL HELP THEM find one.
But thats just it have you seen this breeder neglecting or abuseing? you dont know her so how can you even say?
if some one seen her yorkies neglected or abused yes please stand up. but you dont even know this breeder.

cj125 · 12-28-2008, 08:41 PM

Well, before this thread gets closed - I just want to say that I started this thread because I was upset about the mixbreeding that this Mary Carter was doing. She also used the names of some very well known CH Yorkie breeders. I was upset with that. As all of this unraveled other names surfaced. It was never my intention to hurt anyone - only to bring to light the misuse of someone's good name and life's work. I don't know what can be done but I do hope that this Maxine uses her lawyer to try to get those Yorkies back.

Debbie I know what you were trying to do - it was never about you. You don't have control over her... but I really feel strongly about her lack of honor. I'm just upset about the babies.

ladyjane · 12-28-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

So you are a rescuer and you would not take in any older Yorkie looking for a home. how sad.
This is my chosen breed too, but I would not over look any breed or mix if they needed a home. I WILL HELP THEM find one.
But thats just it have you seen this breeder neglecting or abuseing? you dont know her so how can you even say?
if some one seen her yorkies neglected or abused yes please stand up. but you dont even know this breeder.

What are you talking about? I take in old ones all of the time. I don't enable back yard breeders.

12-28-2008, 08:16 PM	#122
cj125 Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,403	Sorry, where should I have posted it? __________________ *Connie* Mia Max Moe

12-28-2008, 08:36 PM	#132
Reese1 Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,304	I do have personal experience with this breeder, as I've mentioned in this thread and in the past. Camden came from Maxine. She had bred her, the litter didn't make it and she had her spayed and was looking to rehome her. My experiences and my opinions are that she did not with Camden and from pictures I've seen of others provide proper medical or grooming care. I would never expect a responsible, caring breeder to neglect and treat a dog the way Camden was treated. I have pictures and vet bills that clearly show and prove how she took care of her, or I should say DIDN'T take care of her. As relieved as I was that some of the dogs were turned over to rescue and found loving homes, it just further proves in my mind that once her dogs that have made her money are of no use to her, she really doesn't care what happens to them or where they go. Whether she knew this breeder was mixing breeds or not doesn't make a bit of difference to me. She knew she was a breeder and going to breed very small females. She did no research as to what type of breeder she was before selling her and/or her mother 4 dogs. I've read breeders on here all the time that turn down people for their puppies because they don't think it's the right fit. If someone who is a breeder wanted four of my dogs, I would make sure it was a breeder that was breeding for the betterment. She didn't do that and that in my opinion shows lack of any concern about what happens to her dogs. Camden was an abused dog, she was abused because she was sick and didn't get any treatment, she was in pain and didn't get any treatment. She was emotionally abused. She didn't know affection, she didn't have any socialization skills and was one scared and skittish Yorkie. Her treatment of the dogs in her care and her lack of concern about the placement of her puppies or retired dogs disgusts me. She should have stuck with her original plan and retired from breeding. I realize this thread was started about another breeder, but I'm glad it's spotlighting both. I hope enough people will read and educate themselves and not buy dogs and/or puppies from either of them. I get so worked up because it brings me back to the day we got Camden and I cry just thinking about how sick & sad she was. I could never be a breeder myself, but I wish that all breeders were good, responsible, loved their dogs and treated them as family. If they don't, they shouldn't be breeding and I am all for getting the word out! __________________ Crosley Wrigley Camden

12-28-2008, 08:41 PM	#134
cj125 Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,403	Well, before this thread gets closed - I just want to say that I started this thread because I was upset about the mixbreeding that this Mary Carter was doing. She also used the names of some very well known CH Yorkie breeders. I was upset with that. As all of this unraveled other names surfaced. It was never my intention to hurt anyone - only to bring to light the misuse of someone's good name and life's work. I don't know what can be done but I do hope that this Maxine uses her lawyer to try to get those Yorkies back. Debbie I know what you were trying to do - it was never about you. You don't have control over her... but I really feel strongly about her lack of honor. I'm just upset about the babies. __________________ *Connie* Mia Max Moe