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Brodysmom 07-09-2008 09:59 AM

Hi I'm new here with ?s
 
Hi I just found this site and need some info please!
We noticed on June 22nd that our Yorkiepoo was bleeding (she may have been bleeding before that we didnt notice)she is 2 years old .
So we put her with the male on the 27th , she stopped bleeding on the 29th,
he mounted her but she moved away , on the 30 they tied twice that day 10 minutes each time, ,on July 1st we were not home so not sure if they did anything, on the 2nd they tied again for like 15 minutes . What do you think the odds of her being pregnant are ?

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 11:12 AM

14 views and no one has any answers for me:(

sallen38 07-09-2008 11:52 AM

Just a warning. I don't think you are going to like the responses that you are going to receive.

In my opinion, why would you want to breed her? No good will come of this. Sorry to sound so harsh but please do your research on here and you will see things don't always turn out great.

Good Luck!

GurleyGirl 07-09-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysmom (Post 2101362)
Hi I just found this site and need some info please!
We noticed on June 22nd that our Yorkiepoo was bleeding (she may have been bleeding before that we didnt notice)she is 2 years old .
So we put her with the male on the 27th , she stopped bleeding on the 29th,
he mounted her but she moved away , on the 30 they tied twice that day 10 minutes each time, ,on July 1st we were not home so not sure if they did anything, on the 2nd they tied again for like 15 minutes . What do you think the odds of her being pregnant are ?

I'd say the odds are real good that she is pregnant... most mate their dogs on the 9th, 11th and 13th days of their cycle (or somewhere around those
days).

Best of luck!! ;)

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sallen38 (Post 2101670)
Just a warning. I don't think you are going to like the responses that you are going to receive.

In my opinion, why would you want to breed her? No good will come of this. Sorry to sound so harsh but please do your research on here and you will see things don't always turn out great.

Good Luck!

well I thank you for your answer but what I do with my dog is my bussiness !
And as for doing research I have been doing lots of reading on it.I thought that a forum was for people to come talk and ask ?'s.... How do you think people will get any answers to their ?s if they dont ask for help !

I'm not trying to sound mean but I hate when people tell me what to do with my dogs.As for as the puppies I already have good homes lined up for them.. I dont tell anyone what to do with their dogs so please dont try to make me feel bad for wanting to breed mines. I know that lots of things could go wrong and yes i do have the money to take care of them .And i do have time to spend with her and the puppies.sorry if that comes out harsh but I just hate when people tell me what to do with my dogs...

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GurleyGirl (Post 2101684)
I'd say the odds are real good that she is pregnant... most mate their dogs on the 9th, 11th and 13th days of their cycle (or somewhere around those
days).

Best of luck!! ;)

Thank you so much for answering me.and for not going off on me for wanting to breed her. We are just so excited ..

WV~Yorkies 07-09-2008 01:32 PM

Chances are good...

I have a friend with a female we tried to breed. I saw them tie 3 times... no babies.. So I guess it does happen.

Ladyhawk 07-09-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysmom (Post 2101712)
well I thank you for your answer but what I do with my dog is my bussiness !
And as for doing research I have been doing lots of reading on it.I thought that a forum was for people to come talk and ask ?'s.... How do you think people will get any answers to their ?s if they dont ask for help !

I'm not trying to sound mean but I hate when people tell me what to do with my dogs.As for as the puppies I already have good homes lined up for them.. I dont tell anyone what to do with their dogs so please dont try to make me feel bad for wanting to breed mines. I know that lots of things could go wrong and yes i do have the money to take care of them .And i do have time to spend with her and the puppies.sorry if that comes out harsh but I just hate when people tell me what to do with my dogs...

It kinda sounds like you feel that you already have all of the answers. We don't mind answering questions but as lovers of this breed it's hard for us to stomach mixing. This breed is too precious to be watered down and there are certainly enough mutts in the world, no matter how adorable they are. I wish you luck in this endeavor but don't expect for me to support this decision as I feel that these kind of practices are detrimental to the breed.

Woogie Man 07-09-2008 01:59 PM

Chances are that she is pregnant. Just curious, what kind of dog is the male? For an approximate due date, count 63 days from the first tie. I do hope you've done your research on whelping. There have been 6 or so problems whelps on here in just the last week. Also, you may find that not everyone who says they want a puppy will actually follow through when they are ready for their new homes. Whether you want to post here or not, please continue to read some of the recent threads here. There's lots of helpful information to help you prepare for the due date.

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2101907)
It kinda sounds like you feel that you already have all of the answers. We don't mind answering questions but as lovers of this breed it's hard for us to stomach mixing. This breed is too precious to be watered down and there are certainly enough mutts in the world, no matter how adorable they are. I wish you luck in this endeavor but don't expect for me to support this decision as I feel that these kind of practices are detrimental to the breed.


I know she is considered a mutt . and that doesnt bother me. and as for me sounding like i have all the answers i know i dont. if you dont like mixed breed well thats you i happen to love her as much as you do your pure bred...all dogs come froma mixed breed somehow im sure.

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2101939)
Chances are that she is pregnant. Just curious, what kind of dog is the male? For an approximate due date, count 63 days from the first tie. I do hope you've done your research on whelping. There have been 6 or so problems whelps on here in just the last week. Also, you may find that not everyone who says they want a puppy will actually follow through when they are ready for their new homes. Whether you want to post here or not, please continue to read some of the recent threads here. There's lots of helpful information to help you prepare for the due date.




Thanks for answering my ?s ... as for the male he is a pure yorkie .
I do have some experience with whelping as i have help my brother in laws dog when she had her pups...And if someone does decide to change their mind about the puppy thats fine with me Ill keep it..

jennylee333 07-09-2008 04:07 PM

There are a lot of people here that must be unhappy in their lives because all they want to do is try to manage other peoples lives....

I can understand your excitement and they need to remember that they all started out new in the begining.

Keep us posted...The only stupid question is the one that you don't ask.

They only way you learn is to ask!

Congrats on your up coming litter!!!

Ladyhawk 07-09-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jennylee333 (Post 2102206)
There are a lot of people here that must be unhappy in their lives because all they want to do is try to manage other peoples lives....

I can understand your excitement and they need to remember that they all started out new in the begining.

Keep us posted...The only stupid question is the one that you don't ask.

They only way you learn is to ask!

Congrats on your up coming litter!!!

It has nothing todo with managing other's lives as they will do as they please. It has to do with preserving the breed that we love and have put our lives into. All dogs should be loved but not all dogs should be bred. When I was a teenager I had a cockapoo that I dearly loved, he was the best dog. Do you know what often happens when you combine a poodle and a cocker spaniel? You can end up with the weaknesses of both breeds and they do not go well together. My poor ruffles had a disk slip in his back due to his inherant weakness and became paralyzed. We had to put him to sleep when he was only 6 years old. I'm not saying that purebreds can't have problems but you can know their lines and work to alleviate genetic weaknesses. I breed the way that I do for a reason. Breeding is not a game, it's life and death business. We breed with a goal and the betterment of the breed in mind. Do not presume to know why we feel the way that we do. We are passionate about this breed and have devoted our lives to it.

Ladyhawk 07-09-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodysmom (Post 2102031)
I know she is considered a mutt . and that doesnt bother me. and as for me sounding like i have all the answers i know i dont. if you dont like mixed breed well thats you i happen to love her as much as you do your pure bred...all dogs come froma mixed breed somehow im sure.

It's not a question of whether you love her or not. It's a question as to whether those pups can bring something to the breed that makes it worth putting their mother's life in danger. Breeding isn't for fun, it's for a purpose.

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennylee333 (Post 2102206)
There are a lot of people here that must be unhappy in their lives because all they want to do is try to manage other peoples lives....

I can understand your excitement and they need to remember that they all started out new in the begining.

Keep us posted...The only stupid question is the one that you don't ask.

They only way you learn is to ask!

Congrats on your up coming litter!!!

Thank you ..
And as you say some people do need to remember that they too were new to breeding.And i do understand that they do care for the breed but they make it sound like just because my dog is a mutt like they say that she isnt worth a crap but to me she is worth to me what their dogs are to them..I know my dog can have problems and i could loose her. just as they can theirs when they breed them : but the fact that they say we shouldnt breed our dogs is stupid.I didnt come here to start trouble I just asked a darn ? !If they dont like the fact that i bred my dog then dont answer me.....

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2102290)
It's not a question of whether you love her or not. It's a question as to whether those pups can bring something to the breed that makes it worth putting their mother's life in danger. Breeding isn't for fun, it's for a purpose.

I never said it was a question of if I love her are not.
I have the right to breed my dog just as you have the right to breed yours. If you dont like that fact that i bred her then thats fine with me but dont come here and jump in me for doing so..just cause you dont like mixed breeds doesnt mean everybody else doesnt..

jennylee333 07-09-2008 05:23 PM

I can understand being passionate about the breed but that doesn't mean that everytime someone comes on and asks a question they shouldn't be attacked!!!!!!!!!

If you owned a cockapoo then you know that there are people out their that will love them as you did yours. Lots of people out there cant afford the high prices of yorkies and that is a shame.

gardenyorkies 07-09-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodysmom (Post 2102323)
I never said it was a question of if I love her are not.
I have the right to breed my dog just as you have the right to breed yours. If you dont like that fact that i bred her then thats fine with me but dont come here and jump in me for doing so..just cause you dont like mixed breeds doesnt mean everybody else doesnt..

Yes you do have the right to breed her...I don't think anyone said they don't like mixed breeds...But you came to the forum asking yorkie breeders a question and you really can't expect breeders who pour their heart and soul into breeding quality yorkies to condone the mixing of breeds...I have family members who own mixes and they are as much a part of the family as our purebred yorkies...

When you mix breeds you are taking all the health problems of multiple breeds and mixing them also...As ethical breeders we are working to eradicate the health problems of the Yorkshire Terrier...This is why many breeders object to the mixing of breeds...It has NOTHING to do with whether we are capable of loving a mixed breed puppy or not!

Hi I just found this site and need some info please!
We noticed on June 22nd that our Yorkiepoo was bleeding (she may have been bleeding before that we didnt notice)she is 2 years old .


When you have a intact dog you need to check them frequently to make sure they are not in heat, this way you will be able to tract all information accuratley..


So we put her with the male on the 27th , she stopped bleeding on the 29th,
he mounted her but she moved away , on the 30 they tied twice that day 10 minutes each time, ,on July 1st we were not home so not sure if they did anything, on the 2nd they tied again for like 15 minutes
.

The length of the tie has nothing to do with whether a bitch may become pregnant or not...We do not breed our dogs more than once a day and we NEVER leave them unattended...The dog can injure himself if the bitch decides to bite him or take off running while tied...


What do you think the odds of her being pregnant are ?

Without knowing when your bitch ovulated only time will tell whether she is pregnant ofr not...So in the meantime plan as if she is and get ready for the big day!...Good luck!

Brodysmom 07-09-2008 05:48 PM

You know what whatever ...

and as for as me leaveing them unattended for the day I'm so sorry i had a family emergency that i had to leave right away and forgot to make sure they were apart !

I know this is a yorkie forum and i dont have a pure bred dog but i figured it would be ok to ask a simple ?

sondra2004 07-09-2008 05:56 PM

Good Luck with your Yorkiepoo. Love to see a picture.

xiju 07-09-2008 06:07 PM

Best of luck on your upcoming whelp. Keep us posted. I'd love to see pics as well!!!

Cookie2 07-11-2008 07:36 AM

Please DON'T take it the wrong way. Try to understand to take either opinion into consideration.Not everyone will agree and give you the same opinions. I could understand completely with people that have NO experience giving advice on what you should or shouldnt be doing with your dog.However there are lots of experienced long time breeders who've seen the scary part of breeding and they suffer tremendously when something has gone wrong. I went to another forum to ask sure signs that my dog was pregnant andI got slammed and sacrificed like you can't imagine! No one gave me advice .All I got was 100 questions of why did I let this happen and how irresponsible I was. I had to go into exact detail on how this happened.It was not intentional. I had read books and researched online but hearing Breeders experiences is what I wanted the most. I understand you must be angry at the moment.But many people here are telling you that things don't always go according to plan.Yes we've had several really sad and scary Whelping threads here in the past week or so.I was one of those stories.No matter how much I planned things went horribly wrong and 2 out of 3 puppies died.So now we have one baby boy .She ended up with an emergency C-section. Even though many people didnt believe in their heart that my case was an accidental breeding...They STILL ended up helping me out ,calling me on the phone and were very supportive. Because regardless that the mom is a Maltese and the dad is a Yorkie,their were the lives of the puppies that everyone agreed that they were worried for . I swallowed my pride and yes even my bit of anger for another forum and still came here and ended up getting support.I always tell people ,if they dont want anyone to disagree with them ,then just ask yourself and don't ask anyone else.I truly hope that all goes well for the mom and puppies if she is pregnant.Keep doing research ,I still am. I planned to breed my maltese with another maltese but I didnt get to do that and now I have a Morkie. We love him the same. You are correct. But I for now will keep talking to breeders and reading more and maybe one day I will try again with 2 yorkies. Sorry for the long reply but I do understand that you feel you are being slammed and not helped.Understand that most breeders here have been helping with their many years of knowledge to those here who ended up with super scary whelping cases this past week.

All I can tell you is watch her very carefully.The only sure sign I saw in Lola was a clear/slightly yellow discharge from her vulva at around 5 weeks until her C-section this Monday.She went through soooo much pain and I clearly saw that in her eyes. She is spayed now and at least will get to enjoy her boy grow up with her.

Good Luck,I truly mean that


Genie,Cookie,Lola,Angel & Lucky

cj125 07-14-2008 03:29 PM

I'm sorry, I don't want to stir anything up but I would like to bring up a different aspect to this.

May I ask why you want to breed?

Have you ever checked out the Humane Society or looked at any dog rescues? There are a gazillion dogs that are homeless, hungry and in dire need of love and medical attention. People think that because their dogs are cute that they would like to have another one like them. I, too, used to think that way but after reading about puppy mills (NOT implying you), back yard breeders, humane societies, dog rescues and even watching the animal planet station I realized that there are far too many unwanted pets out there. Please don't take this wrong - I love all animals and wouldn't destroy any, but the fact of the matter is there are just too many reproducing - unnecessarily. Not to be rude, but I think people who breed "just because" are just being selfish.

Instead of breeding - couldn't you go and rescue a dog from a shelter?

I see you're from LA... were you aware of just how many animals were left behind after Katrina? Please look at the following sites... it's food for thought.

puppy mills - Google Image Search

Hurricane Katrina animal victims. Dog & pet rescue organization |Animal Shelter Rescue | Muttshack Animal Rescue New Orleans

ARF | Animal Rescue Foundation

Please rethink about breeding.

I'm not trying to preach or put you down - I just hope this opens your eyes a little bit. And yes, both of my babies are spay/neutered.

cj125 07-14-2008 03:34 PM

Google Image Result for http://www.westierescueofmissouri.com/brusselsleg.jpg

This has alot of info.... please read it :)

Brodysmom 07-14-2008 04:04 PM

As i said before I am not going to sit here and keep trying to explain why i wanted to breed her because it seem like no matter what i say just cause she is not pure bred I'm wrong ..
And i am very aware of the effects of Katrina ..As you said you noticed I'm from LA.
And as for looking at the homeless dogs i know about them ..My Mia came from petfinder.

Please dont bother answering this post anymore ..As I am not coming back here to try to explain myself are my actions..Not sure if i will be back to this site ..

jennylee333 07-14-2008 04:30 PM

There is alot of good info and if she never returns then she cant read it! There are some you on this site that have cross breeds...you got them from some where............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............:confused:......................... ...........................what I do not understand is if you don't like something some one else is doing why reply??? If you don't have anything nice to say DONT say anything...\:thumbdown

yorkiekist 07-14-2008 05:42 PM

I didnt think that any of the posts were extremely rude. This was a very educational post and the op, who seems a little close minded, just got hostile if it wasnt what she/he wanted to hear.
My opionion is that just because you have a female, mix or pure, does not mean you need to breed her!! There are plenty of mix and pure breds in rescue that need loving homes. I didnt like her/his attitude: "dont tell me what to do with my dog." To me that is bordering on a very mill-ish or byber-ish attitude.
To the op: best of luck. I would be planning on a litter. Please read up all you can about whelping and caring for the mom and pups.

JaLaYorkieGirl 07-14-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2113375)
I didnt think that any of the posts were extremely rude. This was a very educational post and the op, who seems a little close minded, just got hostile if it wasnt what she/he wanted to hear.
My opionion is that just because you have a female, mix or pure, does not mean you need to breed her!! There are plenty of mix and pure breds in rescue that need loving homes. I didnt like her/his attitude: "dont tell me what to do with my dog." To me that is bordering on a very mill-ish or byber-ish attitude.
To the op: best of luck. I would be planning on a litter. Please read up all you can about whelping and caring for the mom and pups.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

mscat 07-14-2008 05:51 PM

People were only expressioning their opionions and concerns. Nothing wrong in doing that. Nobody was slamming her. They were trying to add different perspectives, and very good points.
Truth is, there are many unwanted animals all over, and many abused, and abandoned pets. breeding more of them does no service, and is is a shame.
Nobody was telling it was not good for her to breed her yorkiepoo just because it was not pure.
Many Yorkie owners have passion for the breed. They are protecting the breed, and know what it takes, and what they are talking about. Sorry if a new person comes on here, and does not like the answers she recieves. NOT everyone is going to agree with the post, and this needs to be respected just as much as the orginal post. :aimeeyork
The woman became defensive before wanting to even read anyone's advice or suggestions. Of course this is her choice entirely. :aimeeyork

Sunnie 07-14-2008 06:13 PM

Posts like this one

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Originally Posted by Brodysmom (Post 2113169)
As i said before I am not going to sit here and keep trying to explain why i wanted to breed her because it seem like no matter what i say just cause she is not pure bred I'm wrong ..
And i am very aware of the effects of Katrina ..As you said you noticed I'm from LA.
And as for looking at the homeless dogs i know about them ..My Mia came from petfinder.

Please dont bother answering this post anymore ..As I am not coming back here to try to explain myself are my actions..Not sure if i will be back to this site ..

and THIS one
Quote:

Originally Posted by jennylee333 (Post 2113169)
. There is alot of good info and if she never returns then she cant read it! There are some you on this site that have cross breeds...you got them from some where............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............:confused:......................... ...........................what I do not understand is if you don't like something some one else is doing why reply??? If you don't have anything nice to say DONT say anything...:thumbdown ..


are the very reason the experienced breeders are no longer willing to offer advice. Come on, you guys sound like 12 year olds who are determined to be right and if the answer is NOT what you want to hear, then you get defensive and mouthy. (sorry, but that is exactly what it sounds like to me) If you already know best, then why bother coming here to ask an experienced breeder their opinion. Sorry, but I don't often get involved in bickering, but my heart hurts right now because I keep seeing some very reputable breeders who could be a goldmine of information, leave this site because of being attacked for offering their EXPERT advice when ASKED! What a darned shame! Why reply? you ask? Because we DO care about these yorkies and this breed. Because we care enough to want to prevent any more pain and suffering caused by poor breeding practices. because we were ASKED for an opinion in the first place. I did not see anyone getting slammed except the experienced breeder who you will notice is no longer posting. The OP is the one who got her panties in a knot when she didn't hear what she wanted to hear, and I am sorry to say this, but JennyLee, your posts only helped to fuel the fire.


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