Anyone UP??? Chloe in labor

[Cookie2]

Can anyone please request this thread to be shut down by the Admin?
Every breeder who started breeder must have started with their first whelp.This could have happened to any breeder.You start with little to no experience at anything you do in life. A breeder with no experience or a breeder of 20 yrs. The premature whelp was mother nature and no one would have been able to save the pups.We all learned from this .I had hoped that there would not be any cold and rude comments such as this one. I feel terrible for Jenn and Chloe and of course those 4 puppies.Go ahead and bash me but we all have our opinions, I just think sympathy is really appropriate for a situation like this. If it would have happened to a 20 yr exp Breeder no one would dare say a comment like that even though it can happen to anyone.

((hugs & prayers))

Genie,Cookie,Lola & Angel

[Sunnie]

Originally Posted by Chloe and Joey

Hi all,

I am so sorry that I havent been able to post earlier. Sadly, all four passed away. Ugh, I am okay now, but poor Chloe is running around thinking that everything I pick up or move might have one of the pups in there.

Here is a recount of the day's events.
I obviously got no sleep and spent the majority of the night trying to bottle feed and get the pups to nurse - mostly to no avail. I called the vet this morning and they said to bring them over right away. I put them and Chloe in a basket with a towel, a warmed up bed buddy, and unplugged the heating pad and shoved it in there (thinking that it would at least hold some heat in on the way over). We drove, no windows open, with heat on (I am in NJ - must be in the high 80s or so today). We got to the vet. She was concerned the most about the smallest (the one that I was originally concerned about with the white spot). They gave the smallest one oxygen and gave both of the pups Dextrol (?). I had the larger pup suckling for a few minutes while we were there. We werent there long because the vet called an emergency hospital in Langhorne PA and sent us there. Within about 10 of the car ride over, the larger of the two passed away. We were about 5 minutes away (about a 23 min car ride total) and the smallest one passed away. It was so sad. I walked in with the pups and Chloe in the basket. The poor secretary was asking for info, but all I could do was shove the papers in her face to read because I was crying so hard I couldnt speak.

A nurse came rushing out and I told her that I thought the pups had passed. She grabbed the basket from me and ran in the back. A vet came out about a minute later to tell me that they did pass away. YorkieRose had it on the money (although I was TRYING to think they could make it). The vet said that they didnt have any hair on their legs or feet and that their lungs were not fully developed. It was hard to pay attention, but I think he was saying that no hair on the paws/legs is an indicator that the lungs were not developed (maybe they happen around the same time?). In any case, they did check Chloe for me and they said her temp, etc was normal and to just keep an eye on her temp.

With that said, we came home about 3.5 hours after rushing out the door initially. She is running around looking for the pups. I must say that she is back to her normal size - occasionally eating and occasionally looking happy. She is on my lap right now and will be in a bath very soon. She almost seems to forget about the pups for a few minutes, then runs around again to look for them.

I heard before that a small stuffed animal is good for them to have. I am hoping that my fiance will be able to get one on his way home from work. I absolutely have to go to work tomorrow. Do you think she will be okay? Should I have someone come over and hang out with her?

Everyone - thank you so so much for everything. Your support, love, and prayers were so thoughtful and so very much needed. I thank you for helping me to make it through.......My grandmother passed away last week and now this - your pick-me ups were amazing!

THANK YOU!

OMG Jenn, I am so so sorry! You did everything you could. Babies born that early just don't have much of a chance to survive. You should be proud of yourself for keeping them alive as long as you did. I know it is hard, but don't beat yourself up and don't let what anyone else says bring you down. You did your best. It does help the mommy if you have a small stuffed animal for Chloe to carry. When Sunshine lost her first litter, she too wandered around. I got a tiny stuffed dog and wrapped it up in the blankets the babies were in and rubbed the scent onto the toy. Sunshine carried it around for a few days until she was able to give it up. Chloe will bounce back and you will too. If you need anything at all hon, you have my number. Anytime.. just to talk.. to have a shoulder to cry on.. whatever.... Hugs
Sonya

[Wylie's Mom]

Jenn, I am so sorry for your loss - how devastating.

I would like to leave this thread open in case Jenn needs to come back here for support. Also, I will close it if she prefers it. ANY post that is disrespectful will be DELETED. Please report any such post immediately by hitting the "report" icon in the lower left corner.

[YorkieRose]

There is nothing more mean spirited then to point out a breeders lack of experince in a sad situation as this...I have bred for 35 yrs..if those pups had been born in my home, they would be exactly where they are now..at Rainbow Bridge...they could have been born at the "Mayo clinic for dogs" nd they still would have died...the litter was basically a spontanous abortion as opposed to a whelping...these things happen...and most often here is no cause found...so lay off!

[Dragonfly245]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

There is nothing more mean spirited then to point out a breeders lack of experince in a sad situation as this...I have bred for 35 yrs..if those pups had been born in my home, they would be exactly where they are now..at Rainbow Bridge...they could have been born at the "Mayo clinic for dogs" nd they still would have died...the litter was basically a spontanous abortion as opposed to a whelping...these things happen...and most often here is no cause found...so lay off!

[xxmxaxrxyxx]

i agree!

[stovesj]

I have been following this post for some time now. I was so excited for you when Chloe went into labor and followed along every step of the way. That excitement turned to sadness when I realized her pups were premature. It is obvious from reading your posts that you did everything humanly possible to help her pups survive and I feel your pain along with you. All I can pray for now is a good recovery for both you and Chloe and would like to add my hugs, along with all the other, for the two of you.

[yoyo27]

You hang in there. You were a trooper and did all you could do. There were lots in here to support you and we all have learned from this thread. We all pull for all you breeders going through this and being there for the ones of us that need you. Prayers and Thoughts for you and the momma.

[Chloe and Joey]

Thanks again everyone. Fortunately, I didnt have to see whatever rude/mean spirited comments that were made due to everyone being on top of things as usual! I recognize that some people on here are quite rude and ill spirited - it is not something that is new to me on here. However, I know - and I am sure that most know - how absolutely amazing the breeders are on this website. This website has been my playbook for the majority of Chloe's pregnancy.

The only puppies I ever saw being born were my Moms (now 14 years old) maltese. I guess she had them 12 years ago, so I was about 14 when it happened. I tried to view as many videos, etc as possible, but never saw the exact size, shape, etc of a yorkie pup. I didnt realize that something was terribly wrong until I saw the posts of the other (and absolutely adorable) puppies posted by Wookie Man (I think I got your name right!). From that point, I took fast action and attempted to do anything suggested by the many many posts on the website.

The question then is: has my inexperience caused this disastrous day? Recognize, that in my earlier post the emergency vet told me NO. In fact, he stated that if the puppies were born at that hospital, they could not have saved him. For YorkieRose to point this out, and confirm his statements, should be enough for the doubters. Moreover, he was not sure why she delivered early. As all experienced and inexperienced breeders know, the first whelp usually isnt the best. He felt that it was in large part due to the fact that it was her first whelp. In addition, Chloe has been more than closely monitored, well cared for, and taken to the vet 4 times since she became pregnant to ensure her health and the health of the pups.

In conclusion, the rude, ill-spirited comments serve little purpose other than to push one's own agenda of perpetuating negativity in the world. For me, I have dealt with my fair share of such comments. Clearly, though, I really dont need those comments right now. I have much more going on.

THANK YOU EVERYONE, again, and again, and again, and again........You are the best.

[Yorkie3]

I just logged on and read the posts. Jenn, you have my heartfelt condolences on the loss of the puppies. I hope as time passes your heart heals and that Chloe will soon be back to playing in the sunshine. I'm so sorry.

[Marlee]

Jenn
I am so sorry for your loss. I understand the frustration of losing a puppy, and losing the entire litter can be crushing. I wish I lived closer, I know I could use a mommy right about now as Miss Bridget is now no longer able to care for her puppies. Not to mention just having a friend to talk through everything with. I wish you luck, and give Chloe a hug, she will have a chance to be a mama again someday

hugs
Brandi

[Amazing Yorkies]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

There is nothing more mean spirited then to point out a breeders lack of experince in a sad situation as this...I have bred for 35 yrs..if those pups had been born in my home, they would be exactly where they are now..at Rainbow Bridge...they could have been born at the "Mayo clinic for dogs" nd they still would have died...the litter was basically a spontanous abortion as opposed to a whelping...these things happen...and most often here is no cause found...so lay off!

Well Said!
I am so sorry for your loss Jenn! You did everything you could and none of us could have done more!

[Woogie Man]

I'm so sorry to see the pups didn't make it. I feel especially bad for you....we were in labor together and I know that all of us that were here yesterday morning lived every heart-wrenching minute with you. You and Chloe have been on our minds constantly since then. This has been an eye-opening experience for many of us and you have to know that some Yorkie pup in the future will be saved due to what happened to Chloe's pups and what we all will learn from that. Maybe tonight you can give Chloe a little extra spoiling...cook up a little chicken or something for her. It may help to get her out of her funk. You all take care and get some rest...you deserve it. P.S. It's Woogie Man, not Wookie. The name is from one of my little guys. He's registered as Dixie's Full Moon Boogie....so he's Woogie, as in boogie-woogie, not wookie, as in Star Wars .

[gardenyorkies]

I am very sorry that you had to go through this...A whelping of this sort is devastating to all breeders, young and old...These pups were born just too darn early and really didn't stand a chance at survival...

Chloe will feel better soon...Give her extra cuddles and a few small stuffed animals to carry around...Again my condolences...

[daisy mae06]

Jenn I am So very sorry for your losses. I pray you and Chloe will have comfort in eachother. (((((((HUGS)))))))