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Marlee 06-26-2008 11:16 AM

Being told I didnt do enough???
 
Ok, so as many of you know we lost Tiny Tim. I feel as though I did every thing possible to keep him alive, in fact the Vet told me that he didnt even believe he would make it through the night. I tube fed, gave vitamin supplments, kept fluids and sugars going to him. Gave steroid shots, did the liver remedy, suctioned him after every feeding , kept him warm and basically feel I did everything I could have to save him. Yet now my cousin whom I gave a dog to last time has the balls to say if I had let the vets keep him or place him in a incubator he would have done better. I am so mad, have you ever had someone tell you you didnt do enough? And how do you respond? The vet said I did way more than they would have I am so mad, esp after my heart broke after trying to keep him alive, I litereally was up the last 3 days with about 20 minutes of sleep, how do I make these idiots happy?

Sorry just wondering if any other breeder has had this said to them???

majesticyorkies 06-26-2008 11:38 AM

So Sorry
 
this person has no idea what they are talking about, They never should have said that to you I have been there too many times it is hard to get the tinnies premmies to live. I know how you feel, Is this person a breeder? If so they should know better! If not they should keep thier mouth shut! If you bless them out I don't blame you I would too! I am so sorry how dare them!

khyorkies 06-26-2008 11:43 AM

Well that was very wrong of them to tell you that...it sounds like you did an excellent job of trying to keep the baby alive. They just don't understand and never will until they have to sit up all night and day CONSTANTLY trying to keep a very tiny baby alive. I would just not every bother with them!

I am glad you tried so hard to keep the baby alive..it proves you are a good person with a big heart!!!:)

jazzismomma 06-26-2008 12:00 PM

I have never had to do anything like what you have gone through in the last three days and I have to say you went above and beyond to try and help this little guy pull through. I think I would have to tell him to kiss off and mind his own dang buniness...... I think you ROCK your a wonderful gma to your little furbabies!!!! Keep you head up and know that we are all thinking of you and your family during this trying time. :good job::hug::love-hug3

Marlee 06-26-2008 12:04 PM

I appreicate the response. I was wondering if I was off my rocker, or I had the right to be upset.

I dont think anyone person can understand unless they have tried with a tiny... It was heartbreaking.

She is not a breeder, just a cousin whom I gave a puppy a year ago, you would think she would have been more kind...:( Anyways, if she says anything else, I might just bless her and her stinkin additude. :rolleyes:

chachi 06-26-2008 12:08 PM

I would ignore your cousin. She obviously doesnt have any experience behind what she is saying. I am sorry you lost your tiny pup

Yorkieforme 06-26-2008 12:09 PM

Your cousin is quite RUDE to say the least and not very sympathetic to YOUR feelings!
I would tell this cousing to MYOB!!

GurleyGirl 06-26-2008 12:17 PM

You did the best you could... don't even consider that you didn't.

I have never had anyone tell me that I could have done more.. it is usually the opposite.. I have lost "tinies" and have blamed myself...you know... the old "why can't I save them?" feeling....

My husband has to convince me each time that there was nothing more I could have done... the vet is always surprised they even hold on as long as they do.

You are surrounded here at YT with many who have gone thru what you went thru with Tiny Tim.... we feel your pain... and WE KNOW you did your best.. Tiny Tim was lucky to have you!!

topknot 06-26-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlee (Post 2073944)
I appreicate the response. I was wondering if I was off my rocker, or I had the right to be upset.

I dont think anyone person can understand unless they have tried with a tiny... It was heartbreaking.

She is not a breeder, just a cousin whom I gave a puppy a year ago, you would think she would have been more kind...:( Anyways, if she says anything else, I might just bless her and her stinkin additude. :rolleyes:

People will say things. We cannot please everyone. I have had to learn this, but I have spent all my life ttying to learn this lesson. Your best thing is just to ignore her.
I do understand!! I lost my little baby girl - Roxie. She was born via c-section on the 12th of this month and I tried for 5 days trying to keep her a live - doing exactly the same things as you did. I ended up loosing her too. Yes, you do hear of some of these babies surviving, but they are not the norm. The hardest part was going through all that - no sleep, loss of energy, not being able to do anything except work on our little angle. You should have seen my house! But I did not care - if I could get this pup through - was all I could think of. It just was not meant to be and she was needed more in heaven - just like your little one. So many little ones we loose them during birth - we were the lucky ones to get to know their little personalities before they had to go.
So I do understand and am here for you. The best thing you can do - is know the truth yourself and go on. Just ignore what she says because she was not there with you helping you. She doesn't understand or have a clue how hard it is or was.
All my best to you.
T.

ryorkies 06-26-2008 12:39 PM

It's like anything, or anyone else... if you have not walked a mile in their shoes you are just not capable of judging. I have never lost a baby this way, but I have stayed up for days on end with the dam waiting on the whelping time and one time I had all of 7 hours sleep in a 72 hour time frame and I was so exhausted that all I did was cry... and that was with a happy ending.
For those of you who have had something like this happen ( losing a puppy) and have gone literally days and nights with little or no sleep and have given your heart and soul to save a precious little puppy ..... there isn't enough thanks in the whole world.

Susan123 06-26-2008 12:52 PM

People think that there is a magical incubator that cures anything at the vet. Heck, we could make one ourseves if it was an oxygen problem. Truth is, the vet would've done the very same thing that you did. They're clueless.

scrapindee 06-26-2008 12:55 PM

Oh my, you worked so hard to save the little one. Ignore those who don't really understand all that is involved.

ace611 06-26-2008 01:34 PM

oh im so sorry you lost tiny tim....hugs to you! i have lost a little one before and it really takes a toll on you....ignore what your stupid cousin said she has no idea!

chattiesmom 06-26-2008 01:36 PM

Marlee, I am so very sorry for your loss. I know you did everything humanly possible to help Tiny Tim and you had your YT family praying for him as well. I agree with the others, ignore the thoughtless cruel remarks from your cousin.

Sending hugs :ghug:

yoyo27 06-26-2008 01:47 PM

Guess your cousin forgot you raised the dog she has. You did the best then and you did the best now. You know in your heart that you did everything you could. I hate to hear the news and would hate to loose one but that is a part of breeding we all take the risk. And hope for the best. Even your vet wouldn't have done all you did. You were great and it just didn't happen. Your cousin wouldn't be happy no matter what.

majesticyorkies 06-26-2008 01:54 PM

Hi friends
 
That are right don't listen to your cousin, I have been breeding for 12 yrs now and in the last year I lost my very first puppy and a Mom all together 5 puppies one Mom And no one can or better say to me I didn't do enough, I have been told I have been luck up to now. My vet sure told my husband off he was complaining about me breeding and my vet lookedat him and said Breeding is one of the hardest jobs you could ever do. How true that is, But I love it so much!

Marlee 06-26-2008 02:15 PM

Thank you all for your kind remarks. I am so angry with her, and in all honesty I wish I had never even talked to her. She still is texting me these rude remarks. I know I did everything I could.. I know I did, and I am saddened by his passing. I am just glad people here understand the lengths we go to for these dogs. The time and the love, it is not just for kicks and giggles, it is becasue I love them so.

SANDYSAND 06-26-2008 02:17 PM

I am so sorry, Just ignore your cousin. She was very rude to tell you something so cold.

janelles 06-26-2008 02:20 PM

I'm so sorry for the loss of Tiny Tim. You did everything you could, and sometimes these things are just out of our hands.
The remarks made to you were pretty darned insensitive. You know you did what was right, and that's all that counts.
Take care
Janice

grandmatoall 06-26-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janelles (Post 2074274)
I'm so sorry for the loss of Tiny Tim. You did everything you could, and sometimes these things are just out of our hands.
The remarks made to you were pretty darned insensitive. You know you did what was right, and that's all that counts.
Take care
Janice

I am not a breeder, but I am a very nice person. Your cousin is an Idiot! You can't pick your relatives.. but you can pick your friends. It is easy to see that you have a lot of friends here. And from everything I have read.. you are a wonderful, caring person and you did everything you could to save Tiny Tim. May this little bundle of love rest in peace.

Tell your cousin of this site and let her read what people think of her thoughtless, insensitive, vendictive, horrible comments. What a hateful person she is. Don't waste your time worrying about what she thinks. She is not worth it.

abbey lee 06-26-2008 03:02 PM

All I can say is ignore him. It is so easy to make statements like that when you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. I'm sure if he had known better, he wouldn't have said it. Sorry for your hurt feeling but that is just one response...you have a lot more people saying that you DID do all you could.

cesar49 06-26-2008 03:10 PM

you saved 5
 
so sorry for tiny tims passing.. you are grieving him and it is terrible that you have those negative comments to deal with.. you lost one, but you saved 5 puppies..if you hadnt taken your mom to the vet, then you might have lost more. so be thankful and turn a deaf ear.. some people are just RUDE:)
Avoid this cousin:animal-pa

littlelady 06-26-2008 03:19 PM

I don't want to come to your cousins defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlee (Post 2074263)
Thank you all for your kind remarks. I am so angry with her, and in all honesty I wish I had never even talked to her. She still is texting me these rude remarks. I know I did everything I could.. I know I did, and I am saddened by his passing. I am just glad people here understand the lengths we go to for these dogs. The time and the love, it is not just for kicks and giggles, it is becasue I love them so.


I have a sister that no matter how you explain things to her she totally takes it out of perspective and sometimes it is very hard to continue a conversation with her because of this. It's like the light stays on but no one is home. Some people ask questions in away that are offensive and put us on defense right away. Either these people just don't get what we are trying to tell them or they think their opinion is the only one that matters.
I have family members that if anyone else informs (describes) what I was just talking about then they are okay with what the new person had to say. But they were ready to argue my point till I could scream. I have 2 nieces that I adore but they keep drama going for years when it should have been put to rest.
Like someone said you can't choose your family but you can choose your friends.
God's Blessings to you for your kindness and strength.

pinkpixiepuff 06-26-2008 04:30 PM

You done everything you could! Don't worry what other naive people think.

Maybe you should ring her every 20 minutes to see if she likes being awake all the time:rolleyes:. Make her realise what work you put in just staying awake nevermind tubefeeding and all the rest!!!

You did a great job. I don't know if I could cope so well with a preemie.

Lots of hugs your way

:hug:

MindieRose 06-26-2008 04:50 PM

No vets office (around here anyways!) would sit with a pup 24 hours a day and provide the care you did. Even at the large animal hospital that I worked at, someone is there until 8 or 8:30 pm at the latest, and never has any person stayed the night there to care for a newborn pup. Your cousin has no idea.

mardel 06-27-2008 02:24 AM

He would never been better cared for in the vet than by you.Forget what she said.She has no idea what she's talking about.Sometimes it is just not met to be,We all have tried to safe a baby by all means but just couldn't.The last time this happened to me my baby was already 4 weeks.

Marlee 06-27-2008 07:20 AM

Thank you so much
 
I really do appriecate everyones kind words. I am still in shock the way she is being, but then again it is not like they have not been negative before. Apparently the consensus with her, and a few others in my family that if I had left him in the vet he would have been put on IV fluids and a incubator, and all would have been well.

I know from past experiance that is not the case. I had a pup get sick with pneumonia the last time around, I took care of him for weeks, and yes he made it, but I was up round the clock. They think being that I saved him I should have been able to this time. It is always the blame game with much of my family and I am tired of it.

I do know I did everything I could, I loved that little guys and fought for him until he had nothing left. I cried as my husband buried him in our back yard. To say I did not do enough is ridiculous. I know I did, and she wont take that from me.

Thanks so much for the encouragement, if nothing else I know you all here know that we fight for these guys, and the harsh reality that there is no magic cure, so live, some do not. It is hard, and sad at times, but look at these little furballs. The ones nipping at your toes, most of us have them becasue someone before us loved them to, and to say anything diffrent is wrong.

I told her to leave me alone and then she started a personal attack, don't I wish now I had never given her a puppy. LOL lesson learned.

Thanks all, I do really appriecate your words of kindness.

Yorkieforme 06-27-2008 07:25 AM

Don't let them get to you. You know in your heart that you did your best...that is all anyone...including GOD could ask for!
Bless you.

tiggerr36792 06-27-2008 07:25 AM

You did your best and you know that. IMO thats all that matters is what you know and feel in your heart. Don't take what they say personally because try as we may to please everyone in the end all we can do is please ourselves and do our best. You did a wonderful job giving that little one the best fighting chance. I am so very sorry it ended the way it did, but you did a great job trying to save him.

GPONTLITZ 06-27-2008 04:54 PM

Sorry for your loss, sounds like you did everything right to me.. that cousin I'd put her emails under spam or block.. who needs FAMILY like that..


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