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trixiesmith 06-03-2008 07:43 PM
Puppy not moving hind legs ??
 
I have four week old puppies. One little girl, the last one born is not using her hind legs. At first today I thought they were paralyzed. But I held her up and she moved them. They are spread apart and wobbly. She moves the front two but then kinda drags the back ones behind her. Does this sound serious? There is no hip dysplasia in either mom or dads line.

KayaBaby 06-03-2008 08:28 PM
i would take her to a vet tomorrow!

are her legs cold compared to her body?

Sunnie 06-03-2008 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trixiesmith (Post 2029226)
I have four week old puppies. One little girl, the last one born is not using her hind legs. At first today I thought they were paralyzed. But I held her up and she moved them. They are spread apart and wobbly. She moves the front two but then kinda drags the back ones behind her. Does this sound serious? There is no hip dysplasia in either mom or dads line.
Yes. I agree! It does sound serious and I would get her to the vet first thing tomorrow

erino77 06-03-2008 09:45 PM
Aww Poor pup. Please be sure to update when you find out something

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 08:56 AM
Just got home from the vet. The vet thinks I should put her to sleep. I just couldn't do it today. I wasn't prepared for this. I'm so sad.

crystalsmom 06-04-2008 09:01 AM
I am so sorry but glad to were able to make it to the vet. I don't think I could ever breed with all it's heartaches. Hugs and Prayers coming your way. Joan

Wylie's Mom 06-04-2008 09:12 AM
This is heartbreaking, I am so sorry. Is there nothing that can be done? What did the vet say it is from?

ARCHIE 06-04-2008 09:20 AM
There was a story about what sounds like the samething one night
on Animal Planet one of the Animal rescue shows.
They found a pup in a litter which appeared to have the samething.
Only all four legs were spread out! I cried.
They brought her in and vet checked her and she was born that way ,
however, they did therapy, don't know how long but in the end she
went to a forever home and was fine after the therapy.
Good luck and I pray this works for you. I would get a second opinion.
Not all vet's are intuned to things like this.

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 09:30 AM
Thank you for the kind words and thoughts. I need them right now.
I feel in my heart I need to get a second opinion.
The vet didn't even see her walk. The pup was so scared (from being away from littermates etc.) that she just stayed in one place and shook. The vet said she was born with this and that from feeling the legs the back ones didn't seem to be right. She probably can't overcome this and won't have a good life if left to live like this. Maybe something in the spine that isn't just right or may not ever know exactly.
I'm going to give it a few days. She doesn't seem to be in pain. It just pains me to think of what I may have to end up doing. The vet said she's sure it won't get better with time. :cry:

KathyinCali 06-04-2008 09:48 AM
I am so sorry you are going though this :( Sending prayers your way.

Sunnie 06-04-2008 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by trixiesmith (Post 2030217)
Thank you for the kind words and thoughts. I need them right now.
I feel in my heart I need to get a second opinion.
The vet didn't even see her walk. The pup was so scared (from being away from littermates etc.) that she just stayed in one place and shook. The vet said she was born with this and that from feeling the legs the back ones didn't seem to be right. She probably can't overcome this and won't have a good life if left to live like this. Maybe something in the spine that isn't just right or may not ever know exactly.
I'm going to give it a few days. She doesn't seem to be in pain. It just pains me to think of what I may have to end up doing. The vet said she's sure it won't get better with time. :cry:
Did the vet do x-rays? I definitely would either take her back and demand that they x-ray her, or find another vet that will. I don't see how they could make a diagnosis without an x-ray.

Jeri Cunningham 06-04-2008 11:58 AM
DON'T listen to the vet. With my first yorkie litter ever the runt had all four legs spread out and didn't crawl or walk. The vet I have said the mussels were not fully developed and to help the puppy work them. Xrays showed nothing else wrong. The vet assistant had said Oh Dr. Lamp had to put a puppy down last week with a spine issue. Thank goodness this wasn't the case with this puppy.

He was up and walking at just over 5 weeks but was wobbly. He was fine like nothing happened at 6 months.

Do the xray to verify it is nothing that can be fixed. If there is no pain then I'm sure someone would want the puppy anyway.

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 11:59 AM
No, no X-ray was done. She said the X-ray just shows bones and not soft tissue and that the bones were probably okay. It is probably in the muscles or something. I will most likely go to another vet and see what they say.

jrsygal37 06-04-2008 12:02 PM
Hi, I'm sorry that you and your baby are going through this. There was one little girl posted under the rescue area that could not use her back legs. The breeder handed her over to rescue. I'm not sure if she was brought in to be put down and the vet called rescue or if the breeder herself turned her in, but she is doing well and although she won't be normal she is in no pain and seems happy. The foster home actually decided to adopt her. I commend you for caring enough about this pup to not just put her down. That would be the answer for some breeders as that is cost effective. I hope it works out for your little one but please take a look at the rescue area and try to find that little girl that was posted there. There were tons of posts under it. I'll try to find the link for you or maybe someone here has it.

Best of luck
Elaine

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeri Cunningham (Post 2030641)
DON'T listen to the vet. With my first yorkie litter ever the runt had all four legs spread out and didn't crawl or walk. The vet I have said the mussels were not fully developed and to help the puppy work them. Xrays showed nothing else wrong. The vet assistant had said Oh Dr. Lamp had to put a puppy down last week with a spine issue. Thank goodness this wasn't the case with this puppy.

He was up and walking at just over 5 weeks but was wobbly. He was fine like nothing happened at 6 months.

Do the xray to verify it is nothing that can be fixed. If there is no pain then I'm sure someone would want the puppy anyway.

Thanks. This makes me feel some better. I asked the vet about letting her live like this and she told me she probably wouldn't have a very good quality of life. I would rather let her live and find someone that would love her this way than put her to sleep. I'm really confused right now.

Tiggerwit 06-04-2008 12:05 PM
Never hurts to get a second opinion. :) Hang in there, sending a hug.

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 2030652)
Hi, I'm sorry that you and your baby are going through this. There was one little girl posted under the rescue area that could not use her back legs. The breeder handed her over to rescue. I'm not sure if she was brought in to be put down and the vet called rescue or if the breeder herself turned her in, but she is doing well and although she won't be normal she is in no pain and seems happy. The foster home actually decided to adopt her. I commend you for caring enough about this pup to not just put her down. That would be the answer for some breeders as that is cost effective. I hope it works out for your little one but please take a look at the rescue area and try to find that little girl that was posted there. There were tons of posts under it. I'll try to find the link for you or maybe someone here has it.

Best of luck
Elaine
Thank you. I will give it time and see how she does. Then I will consider the rescue. If you find the place let me know. Thanks so much.

bjh 06-04-2008 12:07 PM
I had a puppy one time that sounds similar you yours. He was a singleton puppy and very over weight. At four weeks he could not walk, just pulled himself around with his front legs. I started exercising his hind legs. I would hold him up with his hind legs in the palm of my hand and let him push up against my hand. I would do this several times a day. I also put some bedding in his box that was not slippery. I used a braided rug so he could get some traction with his hind legs when he crawled around. After working with the puppy for a week or so the puppy started walking on his own. By the time he was 8 weeks old he was perfectly normal. Is your puppy over weight? I hope it is just a matter of him needing to exercise his legs so he can build up some muscles.

TLC 06-04-2008 12:08 PM
Please get a second opinion and please don't PTS

Read this thread....This little girl seems to have the same problem, but she is able to get around and make due and she was adopted by her foster Mom whom loves her regardless

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...y-no-name.html

xxmxaxrxyxx 06-04-2008 12:08 PM
aww poor girl...i would rush her to the vet to make sure everything is ok...

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2030674)
I had a puppy one time that sounds similar you yours. He was a singleton puppy and very over weight. At four weeks he could not walk, just pulled himself around with his front legs. I started exercising his hind legs. I would hold him up with his hind legs in the palm of my hand and let him push up against my hand. I would do this several times a day. I also put some bedding in his box that was not slippery. I used a braided rug so he could get some traction with his hind legs when he crawled around. After working with the puppy for a week or so the puppy started walking on his own. By the time he was 8 weeks old he was perfectly normal. Is your puppy over weight? I hope it is just a matter of him needing to exercise his legs so he can build up some muscles.
O this all sounds promising. She is not at all overweight. She is 4 weeks and 12 oz. I will work with her back legs to help her stregthen her muscles. Keep your fingers crossed everyone.

ARCHIE 06-04-2008 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2030674)
I had a puppy one time that sounds similar you yours. He was a singleton puppy and very over weight. At four weeks he could not walk, just pulled himself around with his front legs. I started exercising his hind legs. I would hold him up with his hind legs in the palm of my hand and let him push up against my hand. I would do this several times a day. I also put some bedding in his box that was not slippery. I used a braided rug so he could get some traction with his hind legs when he crawled around. After working with the puppy for a week or so the puppy started walking on his own. By the time he was 8 weeks old he was perfectly normal. Is your puppy over weight? I hope it is just a matter of him needing to exercise his legs so he can build up some muscles.


That's exactally what I watched on Animal planet! Please try this.
There may be hope for him. Don't give up.

bjh 06-04-2008 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trixiesmith (Post 2030682)
O this all sounds promising. She is not at all overweight. She is 4 weeks and 12 oz. I will work with her back legs to help her stregthen her muscles. Keep your fingers crossed everyone.
When she crawls does she try to use her back legs but just can't get them under her? With my puppy he could push up with his legs when I held his legs together in the palm of my hand. If you puppy can do than then I think there is hope. It is important that she not be on a slick surface. This might be similar to what they call a 'swimmer' puppy. I am praying that her back legs are not paralyzed but just weak.

YorkieRose 06-04-2008 12:38 PM
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No, no, no, do not put her down now..wait a few months...I can not begin to tell you what I have seen correct itself...co-breeder and I had a puppy who could not stand or even take a step until 8 weeks..we had no clue what was wrong..she is 8 months she is running through the house like any other 8 month old...I had one male whose back legs turned in and bowed so much he could nto stand...but by 12 weeks only one foot barely turned in..it went to a pet home and lived a long happy life...

She may have a problem, but she may not..if you do not want her I will take her...

jrsygal37 06-04-2008 01:02 PM
Link To Puppy With Legs Not Moving.
 
Hi here is the link the the little pup who could not move her back legs. Perhaps her foster mom who has adopted her can give you advice etc.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...y-no-name.html

Again, Best Of Luck
Elaine

Wylie's Mom 06-04-2008 01:03 PM
I would really post this in the Breeders Section, if I were you - they would REALLY be able to advise you on this. :)

Let me know if you want me to move it there....I'd be happy to do it for you.

JPop & Taz 2 06-04-2008 01:09 PM
Wow, you have gotten some great advise! Please hang there with that little angel, give her some time. With the TLC you obviously have for her, she's bound to come around. Best of luck and please keep up informed!:)

Mybabe4me 06-04-2008 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by trixiesmith (Post 2030161)
Just got home from the vet. The vet thinks I should put her to sleep. I just couldn't do it today. I wasn't prepared for this. I'm so sad.
Please do not put her to sleep. Even if she can not use her back legs I bet she would make a great little one.. Therapy will work wonders for her and you can always have a wheelchair for her.. I have one in a wheelchair that was paralyzed do to Atlanoaxial Instability.. She will still have a happy life.. My Babybear does..
Please give this little one a chance.. You will find I am one that will always help with a pup that is a underdog.. There are pups out there with one front leg, no front legs ect.. Please if you need any information let me know.. I am here to help..

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2030714)
When she crawls does she try to use her back legs but just can't get them under her? With my puppy he could push up with his legs when I held his legs together in the palm of my hand. If you puppy can do than then I think there is hope. It is important that she not be on a slick surface. This might be similar to what they call a 'swimmer' puppy. I am praying that her back legs are not paralyzed but just weak.

She does try to use her back legs but it's like they don't work right. One on the right is turned kinda funny. And her bottom end is sorta turned to the side, if that makes sense. They are definately NOT paralyzed. She does move them.

trixiesmith 06-04-2008 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2030814)
I would really post this in the Breeders Section, if I were you - they would REALLY be able to advise you on this. :)

Let me know if you want me to move it there....I'd be happy to do it for you.

If you think I posted this in the wrong place and could get more help there, please move for me. Thanks.


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