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:eek:Something is wrong here. I am so sorry for the gal that started this thread. She just came on looking for advice for her little girl. And I know everyone has their own opionions and exper on diff situations. But the bottom line here is that we are all here to help and support each other.
There are so many good breeders with a lot of exper on this site that can give good advice if they have the whole picture. I lost a puppy with my last litter and I recieved such good advice and support, Again Thank you all for that. That is what this site is all about.
Has anyone heard from the gal that actually posted this theard? I hope everything is OK.
I hope everyone has a GOOD DAY!!!!:)
Sue

Sorry, but I read it the same way too. Reabsorbed puppies is NOT an emergency and there is NO REASON to just rush to the vet. YES, she needs to go to the vet and check it out, but there is nothing wrong with her coming on here and asking questions. We don't know that she didn't ALREADY have a vet appointment. Sorry, but the comment and the tone it was written did sound rude. Even though it may not have meant to be. And the defensive response to the suggestion to keep the comments in a helpful friendly manner adds to the rudeness that this thread has taken. Just my own opinion.

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seems to me that the majority of the people who posted in this thread READ it as being RUDE.. of course, maybe YOU are the only one who is right. Holy cow! can't we just get along?? why is it that when a breeder tries to help someone, there is always someone that has to turn the entire thread into something that it WASN'T intended to be.. no wonder the breeders are hesitant to offer help.

Okay...not getting involved in the fight that this thread has turned into.:rolleyes: All I had to say was to remember that a dog's gestation length is 63 days from OVULATION. Counting from dates of breedings are only an estimate because a dog can tie many days prior to and after the actual ovulation date.

The reason for this is because I truely think some people just can't answer the question posted without looking for something to complain about. Gesh, if I would have said don't worry, they would have jumped on me about not telling her to go to the vet. With some people you just can't win. They have to have something to complain about. I have read so many thread where these "so called" trying to be helpful people always find something wrong with something someone said that was not even said to them. If people would just comment to the OP and not to the other people's answers A LOT of all this could be avoided. If you don't like what someone says, too bad....move on, don't read it if you don't like it .....especially if it wasn't even said to you.

Don't mean to sound dumb but......duh.....what's an OP??? I don't text message so...............

I must say that for the work you do..which is not breeding..:eek: number one you did not know what to say in a breeders questions so you posted a nasty blunt comment..How do you know that this girl was not send a private message.. or do you in fact know this..:eek: did you know the circumstances of why she came on here...you should have just moved on yourself..
Practice what you are preaching here in this post..I started this.. I take ownership.. you know nothing about breeding .. have never walked in our shoes.. I hope you do not ever come on here feeling you do not know what to do.. then get the same in return..I am sure you would be hurt.. I really hope this does not happen to you..
And you seem to be the one making a huge thing out of people just not agreeeing with you.. quoting every single comment..think about it.. and read it.. I made the first comment.. you had to come back... then every single post you do the same.. stay out of the breeders section if you cannot post something postive.. I do not know it all.. but it is this crap that keeps the good breeders away.. and that is just not right in my schooling..
Admin maybe this thead needs to be closed.......anne

You're right..OP is original poster. I don't get abbreviations a lot of the time either LOL And even when I text, I tend to spell everything out instead of abbreviate

doesn't sound dumb to ask, I didn't know at first either. It means original poster...or original post.:)

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Many Thanks for all the answers. See...everyone does just want to be helpful. By the by, LMAO is one of the only text short cuts I know (Laughed My Ass Off), which I do a lot thankfully!:animal36

nope your not dumb.. it takes awhile to get to know them all. and I still get confused...
the op never came back that is too bad.. would really like to know how her girl is doing.. Like michele said.. she still could have a few days to go yet.. anne

well personally I think that the people answering in the breeders section should be people experienced in breeding. those that have some experience. but that is just my personal opinion

i agree with you Sunnie. The only person I have seen in here that has been rude is a non breeder that as Anne said, didn't even have an answer. As for telling Anne she shouldn't even have made a comment, it is the other way around. yes, people have OPINIONS but those don't get the job done nor the questions answered. it takes an experienced breeder to do that. The way Anne was jumped on by this person is typical of how the breeders get treated by non breeders with opinions only and why they are gone most of the time. i would encourage others to look back at this rude person's posting history and consider the source.

does anyone know if she has had the puppies yet or what has happened????

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I know Im not a breeder and thats the reason I never answer questions regarding breeding but I do read this section once in a while. heres my my 2 cents, I dont think she was the one who had the OP leave this thread. all she said was take the dog to the vet. you guys jumped on her post and decided to read that as rude. Im pretty sure she could have said something alot more rude than take the dog to the vet. If you look back on the thread you will see that all this could have been avoided had no one made a big stink about her post. you guys (experienced breeders) have turned this thread into drama...for no reason. I just dont get it. I agree that everyone should be nice and respectful to one another but look at how she was treated for just suggesting she take the doc to a vet...the OP came here for advice and she gave her her advice. If you dont agree with her advice then state yours on thats it.

Ya know, I don't think anyone JUMPED on her. A lot could have been avoided if she had just re-read her post. It DID sound rude in the way it was short and blunt. And not just one person felt that way. They ALL did. Then because she couldn't just say, yea, I am sorry it sounded so blunt.. She got defensive and argumentative and to the REAL breeders, who are trying to help. telling Anne she has issues was SO out of line! If she was a breeder and had been reading the breeding section and truly trying to help, she would have known the circumstances that Anne was going thru at the time and realized at the first post from Anne that she was coming on a little too strong in her bluntness. Instead she chose to argue and belittle Anne and that was totally uncalled for. Compassion and kindness can go a LONG way. ESPECIALLY with a new person asking a serious BREEDERS question. If you don't have some good, experienced advise, then you should either (1) not post at all, (2) say I really don't know, but I would check with your vet or (3) (if you are REALLY trying to be helpful) PM one of the breeders and ask if they could answer the question. All any of us are asking for is a little respect. Some people have to have the last word no matter what and that is what gets these fights going. I have seen it posted all over YT.. BE A POSITIVE POSTER! When someone comes on showing thier new cute puppy, it is fine to give a short blunt answer like " how adorable!" But a serious breeders question should not in my own opinion be answered bluntly (or rudely) by someone who is a non breeder and has no idea if it is an emergency or not.

Im sorry but no one felt her answer was "rude" until the 15th post when Anne posted her feelings on it (which was written rudely by the way). Once she said something everyone chimed in....why? if it was so "rude" why didnt anyone say something before? And because her answer was short and to the point and didnt write it how you would have ...it was wrong? what people have to realize is that you will not always agree with the advice given but we have a right to say what we feel, she felt that the best thing was to go to the vet, so she said it and because she didnt add a smiley face to it you guys jump on her post. you say you are asking for a little bit of respect but you have to give it to get it. Its not having the last word that gets these fights going its not agreeing to AVOID the drama. You didnt like what she said...oh well in life we arent going to like everything.

i beg your pardon but others of us did feel it was rude from the get go long before Anne said anything. it was being discussed in the breeders group. I can also tell you that she was reported more than once. i literally sat on my fingers to keep from posting what i thought but after i thought about it and looking back at this person's posting history, I considered the source. perhaps no one said anything before because they were trying to be nice to that person.

Thats what I mean, we should all just do that because look how the thread was going before Anne commented on her post...it was going good. The OP was getting good advice. Thats my point...do not respond to post on what you feel is rude etc...if you feel it was unnecessary then hit the report button and thats that. I am by no means taking sides, I dont know either one, reason why I responded is because somethings gotta give. we have to find ways around the drama and by everyone just using that button and not saying anything YT wouldnt experience as much drama.

It really wasn't going good. A lot of us sat on our hands and didn't say anything until we felt the need to speak up about the rudeness to Anne. Regardless, all we can do now is hope that the OP will respond to the PM's offering help.

I know it sucks to have sit on your hands, we should be able to say what we feel but as adults we have to take a moment and think...is it even worth it? will any good come from it? more than likely not so report them and let admin and mods handle it. That way the thread doesnt turn into a fight and no one holds grudges against each other (which Im hoping doesnt happen in my case) everyone started to speak up when Anne was treated rudely but anne was treated that way because she did not just contact admin she went and posted, and theres the cycle. all Im saying is that we have to learn how to keep the issue at hand. I too hope that the OP will respond to her PM's there is great knowledge on this breeders section and its a shame when it cant be put to use.

Ok so WOWWWWWWWWWWWW I didn't mean to start all of this!!! I'm gone for a day and I come back to all of this. Please stop. Yall are fighting over nothing. My feelings are not hurt.

Anyways, to change the subject....my dog is doing just fine. The vet said as long as she is eating, drinking, playing, etc....she is fine. Don't know what happened but she is not to be bred again. Which turns out to be a blessing cause she is turning 5 and wasn't suppose to be bred. I didn't realize that she was in heat until it was to late. So God has his way of doing the right thing.

But on the other hand, a female of mine had puppies this morning. She was suppose to have 5. Well WTF...she has 3. No more labor...not in distress......seriously. I'm never going back to the f***ing vet again. I called and all they can tell me is if she doesn't look stressed then she is fine. And that I don't need to bring her in.

So by any chance....have yall ever had a puppy still in there and it didn't come out for quite some time. She stopped having labor at 8 this morning and it is 2. If there is another puppy in there...whats the chance of this happening? Could she stop being in labor and still have some in there?

yes, her labor could stop with a puppy in there. Do you have any calsorb or anything like that to give her? I have heard of one person on here thaat thought the bitch was thru and she had another puppy the next day. it didn't make it. I know what you mean about not goi ng back. My last two ultrasounds showed three and each girl had five.. When you feel of her tummy, do you feel any sign of contraction or anything?

No she isn't having any contractions at all. I checked her belly a couple more times today. Her uterus is still a little swollen but thats about it. I gave her calsorb a couple times today.