I am so sorry for the loss of your baby boy, and I will be praying for your baby girl!

So sorry about your loss. If he weighs 4 ounces, I would probably give 2 cc'c as opposed to the 4 cc's reccomended (the formula of 1 cc per ounce of weight). And increase from there. I would have him nurse first, while he's hungry then tube feed to fill the tummy. Likely he'll tire from nursing if he's weak. If he's too weak I'd let him save his energy, and only tube feed. Sometimes it only takes 2 days of tubing for them to get a good amount of strength to resume nursing.

You're doing great, praying this one gathers his strength and thrives.

~Susan

I know many are not not online.. but I was with baby all night last night.. would not suckle on his own at all.. so I tubed him.. now he has that death cry.. so what I am doing is not helping him one bit...
I am devestated right now.. never lost like this before.. and there has to be an underlying problem with both to be like this.. I am so devestated that our efforts are not working and that cry is there.. am I prolonging something that cannot be..or is not meant to be.. I do not give up that easy.. but the cry enough tho we have worked with him.. and the last feed his tummy did not just get bigger.. it got harder.. anne

Anne, if his belly is hard, maybe she is not pottying him. Do not give up on him until the breath is gone. Rose's boy cried like that too and he eventually came out of it. BTW, I pm'd you.

Anne..When I read his tummy is hard..and he's crying.
It sounds like pain to me. Is he going potty?
Oh this makes me so sad.
I was hoping for good news on this baby this morning
((((Anne)))))

I am sorry. I had hoped to read that he is better. I would try do as other posters say and try the cotton balls to make him potty. I will pray that he changes for the better.
Janice

Just checking in. I was sure hoping for better news. I hope pottying will work. I will certainly keep praying for your little one and for you. You must be exhausted.

Anne, I am so sorry that you lost your little boy. I am praying really hard for this little girl. You poor thing. I know this is hard for you..
Sonya

thanks all.. Kandie has been cleaning him up all night.. she is with him now and he is wet from her working with him.. she was so distraught when I took the other one to the vet and did not come back with baby.. that after talking to a breeder on the phone last night.. she said that was the cry when the body was shutting down.. she knew exactly what I was talking about.. said I should have maybe let him go with her so she would no.. so now she is with him.. he is hardly moving.. going fast like the other baby.. but with this one I did everything I could.. and at that weight baby should have been able to suckle on his own..
I am so upset.. beyond words.. this sure has brought me some great people I must say.. you all have helped me so much.. right now I am too upset to even think straight..
I feel I let them down somehow.. yet I have never left the house since they were born.. ran to the store once for a few minutes.. the rest of the time I have sent hubby.. He was up all night with me and has just gone to bed.. he is so tired out.. he so tried with great patience all night to get baby to suckle on his own...
I kept gracie alive tubing two years ago.. we fed her night and day every two hours.. for two weeks before she was strong enough to suckle. but she has this will from the start..
These boys have shocked me beyond belief...kandie always threw two.. it was going to be such fun having 4 babies around for a few months..
I will have one girl and one boy left..there weight is 9.5 and 8.5 oz as of last night..
Ok I am so tired now I am not sure what I am saying... again thanks so much to all of you for such great support, care and love for my babies... anne

So sad with you Anne
 

Awwwwwwwwww Anne...I am so sad for you
BIG BIG hugs sweetie..You did all you could.
You must be exhausted...I hope you get some rest soon hun
Prayers for you...

kandie is so upset again today
 

I have never had this happen before.. does anyone know how I can settle kandie down.. I did not take baby out yet.. he is going like the other one did exactly.. I am so shocked at this weight and to lose two.. I am so sick in my stomach right now...
I will wait to see if anyone can suggest to me.. how and when do I take the baby way.. he is barely alive and she is so upset.. what do I do.. anne

aww Anne, I don't know what to tell you in this circumstance, but I am praying for you and Kandie. I know it is hard on both of you.

Anne when Dasiys little boy did this the last litter.
I took him out and put him in the kitchen in a basket with heating pad until he passed.
Its so hard hun..I know...I dont know what to say
I Pm'd you back Anne

I feel for you our little one 3.8, as of this am is now 5.1 oz
 

I don't know what to say but maybe the two puppies have some kind of congenital problem that aren't evident. It is so sad though. Because they only have us to help them and when we can't do anything,it is very hard to take . It's like watching our children struggle with lifes issues and we can't fix or solve them . I agree with you their are some really great people here that have given great advice and their kind words help tremendously. I just keep rubbing my little one and stroking her sides with my finger. Trying to emulate Angel licking her and nudging her, I was hoping these kinds of interventions would help stimulate normal body functions to kick in and do what they are supposed to do. For instance Day one after whelping I saw a couple of the pups defecate. I have not seen one after that. Angel when she licks them eats it, I was scared about over feeding them even when I saw their tummies get big, because I haven't seen any more . I haven't seen her always licking them. I am new to how soon they should relieve themselves after eating. I know formula with human babies is constipating. Would the same be true with supplemental formula for the pups? Forgive me some of this is truly elementary but some times we over look the obvious or mundane for some more ominous reasoning for whats going on. I am not suggesting anything by saying this for what you are going through. I am just reflecting on my own past experiences. I try to use every experience as a chance to teach my own children lifes lessons, so we try not to take anything for granted.

Anyway I am truly with you for what you are going through. With the loss of Buddy the sire of Angels pups being killed on May 5th . I was so depressed and felt helpless. The care that hit him didn't even stop. These puppies mean the world to me and my daughter, keeping them healthy is top priority here. WE even took shifts going to church.

Anne do NOT take the baby away until he passes UNLESS she pushes him to the side. When she does that you know she is ready to let her go. I am so sorry.

This is a heartbreaking story. I am so sorry for your loss and prayer's
coming for your little one that seems to be going. I have no idea
how your breeder's go threw this. My heart goes out to you.
I pray that Mommy is ok too.

Oh Anne, I'm so sorry. You have done all you could do. I have had one spring back all of a sudden after being at deaths door, and I mean I just knew he was passing within 30 minutes. And I've lost a couple as well. It hurts I know, but we'll be praying for all three of you,

Susan

You're right Dee
 

You're right Dee
Daisy had been pushing this lil guy I lost to her back for hours.
And I felt it was suffering because it was soooo cold.
I thought by removing it and placing it in a basket on a heating pad.
I could work with it easier...or even thought some miracle would happen if I could just get it warm again
Daisy would not leave the lil guy by her..
She knew....
I just assumed it was like this for the puppy , sorry for the bad advice...

Mama tries all she knows to save them and then just loves on them for awhile but when they get to the point she pushes them aside, she is ready even tho we aren't.

I know...it seems they know before we do..we will keep trying..I know I still tried..and milk started coming thru its nose...I knew to just let the lil guy go :(

I agree. She needs to understand and this is the only way.

My heart and prayers are with you Anne.

Anne, I wrapped my little one in a small piece of fleece and sat with mom and baby until he was gone. She seemed comforted to have me there helping her to hold onto him. And then I held him awhile afterwards and she came to me when she needed to to see him before we took him away. It is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry for you.

Just wanted you to know that while I haven't posted much, I'm here. I'm here praying and crying with you. That's all I have to give, so I'm praying for all the other Yorkie mamas and papas to give you good advice and comfort.

Big hugs........

This is definitely true. When I lost Mikayla's little boy she wouldn't touch him the night before. She just focused on the girl. I kept trying to push him back to her but she wouldn't do it. I didn't realize until he was gone what she was doing...:(


Anne I am so sorry about your babies...I will be praying for you and Kandie.

I'm so sorry that your efforts have failed. I have never been through that. the ones that I have lost were dead immediately. it would be terrible to watch them die slowly. and to watch the mother grieve has to be beyond words.

I'm so so sorry.

Kandie was extremely upset when I went to the vet and did not bring back baby..this was why I was not sure what to do..
I left the baby with her this time.. and he was wet from her licking him and looking after him.. that was so sad to see.. but once he passed it was ok for me to take him out..
and to clear things up with all.. I lost two boys.. still have one girl and one boy.. it was a typo in my tiredness and stress.. I just wanted to let you all know..
I went to bed for some sleep... I just woke up.. I will be watching tv in there later and just laying on the bed so I can watch her...be close to her yet not on top of her.. I have slept in there so this would not seem unusual for her now..this was a week end never to be forgotten.. losing david to drowning and then two puppies..sure is not easy to take..
anne

Sending you thoughts of peace and love. Bless your heart, you have really had a hard weekend. Your other puppies seem to be a good weight, so hopefully they will thrive and grow into the happy little guys they are meant to be.

Best wishes.