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bhamkid 05-22-2008 07:26 AM
Biewer bred to regular Yorkie
 
Has anyone of heard of Splitters? That when you breed a Biewer to a Yorkie, how do you register those? Does anyone have pictures of such?

EmrldShdwQueen 05-22-2008 07:31 AM
I don't know anything about registering, but I think Kathy here on YT has some splitters: Heaven Sent Biewers and Yorkies

She can probably give you more info...

maxmom 05-22-2008 07:45 AM
Sorry to ask, but, what is a Biewer?

bhamkid 05-22-2008 07:46 AM
i'm new to yt, can you direct me to kathy. i would really like more information about splitters.

BamaFan121s 05-22-2008 07:50 AM
Your name isn't TeRrie by chance, is it? Are you considering adding Biewers to your breeding too?

EmrldShdwQueen 05-22-2008 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2004530)
Your name isn't TeRrie by chance, is it? Are you considering adding Biewers to your breeding too?
:confused:

BamaFan121s 05-22-2008 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen (Post 2004542)
:confused:
Yeah...

bhamkid 05-22-2008 09:08 AM
[QUOTE=BamaFan121s;2004530]Your name isn't TeRrie by chance, is it? Are you considering adding Biewers to your breeding too?[/QUO

I ran across someone in Tennesse that bred one to a Yorkie, and I wanted to know they looked like. I stick to the Yorkies only, I would never cross breed such a beautiful dog with a Yorkie.

JBJsRockAngel 05-22-2008 09:10 AM
I had the same question....

bchgirl 05-22-2008 09:13 AM
[quote=bhamkid;2004720]
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2004530)
Your name isn't TeRrie by chance, is it? Are you considering adding Biewers to your breeding too?[/QUO

I ran across someone in Tennesse that bred one to a Yorkie, and I wanted to know they looked like. I stick to the Yorkies only, I would never cross breed such a beautiful dog with a Yorkie.
Splitters generally look like standard colored yorkies. Sometimes they may have white patches.

I know two of Kathy's splitter yorkies were imported from Germany and are registered with German registries.

bailey12 05-22-2008 09:19 AM
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Hi. This is Anna. Her father is a biewer, registered in Germany, and her mother is an AKC registered yorkie. I registered Anna with IBC, a German Registry. Juliet

bhamkid 05-22-2008 09:24 AM
she is absolutely beautiful

BamaFan121s 05-22-2008 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bhamkid (Post 2004720)
I ran across someone in Tennesse that bred one to a Yorkie, and I wanted to know they looked like. I stick to the Yorkies only, I would never cross breed such a beautiful dog with a Yorkie.
Biewers actually derived from standard Yorkies (depending on who you ask, I guess). Breeding a standard Yorkies back into a Biewer line is actually pretty common. There are some involved w/ Biewers who have stopped the practice and only breed Biewer to Biewer, but doing such is not at all outlandish, pretty common.

bhamkid 05-22-2008 09:35 AM
thanks for informing me. i was inquirying because i had never heard of it before. and wanted to know if it was common. thank you so much for enlightening me.

BamaFan121s 05-22-2008 09:51 AM
TeRrie--got your PM...I think maybe there has been some confusion so I'll answer it here to clear it up. I live near Bessemer--grew up in the adjoining town, did lots of rescue work in the area--larger breeds then--still do to an extent. Used to do alot w/ Bessemer animal control and knew everyone wh ran the local shelter. I recognized your name as I do many of the breeders in the area. So in a sense I don't 'know' you personally...jut know "of" you I guess you could say.:p

Welcome to YT. Why don't you share more about your fur kids and your breeding program.

SincrOne 05-22-2008 12:51 PM
Hmmmmm, interesting.

Pulling up a chair to listen more about this breeding program.

scrapindee 05-22-2008 02:56 PM
There is still some discussion about breeding back to Yorkies. The "splitters" can be registered in Germany. The splitters have some of the best personalities and look like yorkies.

Kathy785 is on this forum. You can pm her about available splitters--she may be able to help you.

livingdustmops 05-22-2008 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2004851)
TeRrie--got your PM...I think maybe there has been some confusion so I'll answer it here to clear it up. I live near Bessemer--grew up in the adjoining town, did lots of rescue work in the area--larger breeds then--still do to an extent. Used to do alot w/ Bessemer animal control and knew everyone wh ran the local shelter. I recognized your name as I do many of the breeders in the area. So in a sense I don't 'know' you personally...jut know "of" you I guess you could say.:p

Welcome to YT. Why don't you share more about your fur kids and your breeding program.
Hmmmm. :confused:

bhamkid 05-23-2008 05:24 AM
Yorkshire Terrors
 
Either I'm getting the wrong vibes, have a misunderstanding of your conversation, or I'm thinking you're being a little scarcastic. What do you mean by Yorkshire Terrors? I think my pets are the sweetest Yorkies ever. They are very well behaved, and they think they're human; I don't think they know they are dogs.

cesar49 05-23-2008 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2005460)
There is still some discussion about breeding back to Yorkies. The "splitters" can be registered in Germany. The splitters have some of the best personalities and look like yorkies.

Kathy785 is on this forum. You can pm her about available splitters--she may be able to help you.

nice positive post:animal-pa:animal-pa:):)

cesar49 05-23-2008 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bhamkid (Post 2006487)
Either I'm getting the wrong vibes, have a misunderstanding of your conversation, or I'm thinking you're being a little scarcastic. What do you mean by Yorkshire Terrors? I think my pets are the sweetest Yorkies ever. They are very well behaved, and they think they're human; I don't think they know they are dogs.
dogs are not people.....:D

mypreciouspups 05-23-2008 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2005460)
There is still some discussion about breeding back to Yorkies. The "splitters" can be registered in Germany. The splitters have some of the best personalities and look like yorkies.

Kathy785 is on this forum. You can pm her about available splitters--she may be able to help you.
:thumbup::thumbup: nice post....

anne

kelkiss5 05-24-2008 10:51 PM
Whats the point of breeding Brewiers to regular yorkies if they come out looking just like that. A regular yorkie????

GreenwoodBiewer 05-25-2008 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kelkiss5 (Post 2009586)
Whats the point of breeding Brewiers to regular yorkies if they come out looking just like that. A regular yorkie????

The reason one MAY want to breed back to a regular Yorkie is to get a particular trait into a line. Say you have a yorkie that has really nice small ears or a great coat or a terrific top line and you may have a Biewer that maybe a bit weeker in that area.. just like breeders always do. The first generation turns out to look like Yorkies BUT then when they become adults and you breed them, they produce a litter that consists of some Biewers and some Yorkies. This brings in a new blood line into the Biewer line, and also what ever desirable trait you were looking for. The next generation produces even a higher percentage of Biewers and I believe the generation after that produces all Biewers (I may not be exact on that, I've never bred past the first generation so I don't know the exact ratio, there are others on this forum with far more experience in this area than I).
Hope that helps.

-Diana :animal-pa

sheilajom 05-25-2008 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhamkid (Post 2006487)
Either I'm getting the wrong vibes, have a misunderstanding of your conversation, or I'm thinking you're being a little scarcastic. What do you mean by Yorkshire Terrors? I think my pets are the sweetest Yorkies ever. They are very well behaved, and they think they're human; I don't think they know they are dogs.
I'm confused? I didn't see the word terror anywhere?

kelkiss5 05-25-2008 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 2010650)
The reason one MAY want to breed back to a regular Yorkie is to get a particular trait into a line. Say you have a yorkie that has really nice small ears or a great coat or a terrific top line and you may have a Biewer that maybe a bit weeker in that area.. just like breeders always do. The first generation turns out to look like Yorkies BUT then when they become adults and you breed them, they produce a litter that consists of some Biewers and some Yorkies. This brings in a new blood line into the Biewer line, and also what ever desirable trait you were looking for. The next generation produces even a higher percentage of Biewers and I believe the generation after that produces all Biewers (I may not be exact on that, I've never bred past the first generation so I don't know the exact ratio, there are others on this forum with far more experience in this area than I).
Hope that helps.

-Diana :animal-pa
Ah thank you. :thumbup:. Thats very interesting. I never knew that. But then again we dont have a Brewiers in Ireland.

cesar49 05-26-2008 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 2010650)
The reason one MAY want to breed back to a regular Yorkie is to get a particular trait into a line. Say you have a yorkie that has really nice small ears or a great coat or a terrific top line and you may have a Biewer that maybe a bit weeker in that area.. just like breeders always do. The first generation turns out to look like Yorkies BUT then when they become adults and you breed them, they produce a litter that consists of some Biewers and some Yorkies. This brings in a new blood line into the Biewer line, and also what ever desirable trait you were looking for. The next generation produces even a higher percentage of Biewers and I believe the generation after that produces all Biewers (I may not be exact on that, I've never bred past the first generation so I don't know the exact ratio, there are others on this forum with far more experience in this area than I).
Hope that helps.

-Diana :animal-pa
can you eventually get pure biewers if you start with splitters?:aimeeyork

GreenwoodBiewer 05-26-2008 03:09 PM
Yes. It is my understanding that after you breed the first litter of splitters to a full Biewer, the litter will produce maybe one Biewer out of 3.. the next litter, 2 out of 3, the third litter, all three would be Biewers. (that is of course if you had three pups)

The puppies that are born either are pure Biewer (registered as Biewers) or pure Yorkies.. There is a definate formula that others know, I just don't know it.. sorry..

Diana :animal-pa

scrapindee 05-26-2008 05:43 PM
I think the genetics come into play here. If a Biewer is bred to a splitter there is a 50% chance, the litter will be Biewer or Splitters. The Biewer to Biewer breeding is the only 100% guarantee of having a Biewer.

cesar49 05-26-2008 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2012785)
I think the genetics come into play here. If a Biewer is bred to a splitter there is a 50% chance, the litter will be Biewer or Splitters. The Biewer to Biewer breeding is the only 100% guarantee of having a Biewer.
the biewers are amazing...:)


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