I Need the dirt on Yorkmont Yorkshire Terriers! I have a friend in NY who is having a problem with Yorkmontyorkshireterriers. I have another friend who Debbie, the owner took 6,500.00 from and blocked his calls. She promised a tiny female...he drove from NC to see her and then Debbie started asking for more money, on one occasion saying her stud had luxating patellas and needed the surgery asap. THEN she said she was in a wreck and injured her back and needed money. (the puppy WAS for $5,000.00) She then refused to sell him the puppy and he is now out of 6,500.00..... Apparently over the last few days, Debbie has told my friend she was in a wreck and sufferred injuries (HMMMM,Must be an awful driver.....) She also refused to show pics of puppies born already but wanted her to see the parents. My friend wanted a tiny Yorkie for $5,000.00. Debbie changed the price even higher after she gained my friends interest and tried to make it easy on her by offering layaway.......My friend became uncomfortable and said she would be glad to fly down and see the baby herself. Debbie did NOT like this and conversation apparently became short. I called her about 4 years ago. She had a gorgeous teeny tiny male and I was hoping to buy one to breed my little girl to. He was 3,600.00.................Well, I found out he had 1 TESTICLE and she STILL insisted that he would be good to stud regardless and said just because he had 1 testicle didn't mean he would produce pups with 1 testicle and if that was my concer that I could sell his puppies without breeding rights. ***I DO NOT WANT HER TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.....PLEASE..PLEASE, CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME DIRT ON THIS LADY. ANY BAD EXPERIENCES OR DO OTHER BREEDERS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER REPUTATION THAT WILL HELP? |
Well since I'm generally in that kind of mood tonight I'm just going to say it I do not think it's in good taste to "WANT" dirt on anyone...breeder or not. The facts usually come out either way, I am sure many of you reading agree. I am not saying you/they haven't had a bad experience. And I hope all gets resolved. It's a little confusing but I think I might have a bit of the picture :confused: I don't know anything about the breeder you mentioned personally. Good luck to you and your friend. |
Are you still considering getting a puppy from her? |
I feel so bad for your friend. I could totally see giving a breeder more money if they said they needed it for you to get the puppy. Sometimes you just want the darn puppy you have your heart set on! It sounds like he should start looking into legal action. Also, if he posts his experience on badbreeder.org, ripoffreport.com, also have him sign up for YT and contact the Better Business Bureau. The more places he puts the word out the better! Plus, he's more likely to get his money back. I've been in that type of situation. Usually it's not just you it happens to, there will be others out there. I posted a bad review about a breeder and received a letter from their lawyer. I called up the lawyer and told them I would not recant my review because it was true! You can't let people get away with this type of stuff. If more people stand up to unethical, greedy breeders it will save so many people and innocent puppies out there. I haven't dealt with this breeder in particular, I always thought they had gorgeous dogs(but the price tags were OMG high). Please make sure your friend gets a lawyer and starts getting the word out there on what happened to him. |
Thanks everyone.... I personally have no problem paying top dollar for exceptional quality. Regardless as to where anyone buys a Yorkie or ANY animal, research is very very important. As for the breeder I was asking about- Her AKC priveledges have been suspended for one of the lines of her dogs because DNA didn't match what was listed on a puppy's papers. I have sent the link to Yorkietalk and highly recommended that my clients join and to feel free to recommend the site to others. I am not interested in a "smear" (or dirt persay) and apologize for the wordage. My main concern is that too many people are being taken when investing in a new family member. I am concerned that there are so many incredible breeders also and there needs to be avenues to confidently (or as much as possible) weed out undesireable and make it easier for potential parents to find these breeders. As Breeders - we all know how to find each other and how to determine who is credible or reputable. The vast majority potential parents do NOT- then they und up at places like Puppyf*n*-- or Pupcit*-- (there's so many!)-- I am not sure if I am allowed to type the sites names. I sure don't want to help promote them.... Have a great Tuesday! |
I know this person, sort of... I had a very pleasant conversation with Debbie over the weekend and find this all surprising. She recently assisted in a rather large purchase I was making from a friend of hers, and I was impressed with her knowledge and businesslike manner. I can tell you the dogs I purchased were in her care as a handler for quite some time and they were delivered to me in excellent condition. I can't help thinking there has to be more to this story than what is presented here. |
Yorkmont has quite a few for sale on puppyfind. She has all excellent reviews and a couple of tiny puppies for sale for less than your friend paid so I'm not quite sure why she hasn't sent him one. That's strange. That's a very large amount of money to not receive anything for. I don't think he should be wasting any more time and it's hard to take someone elses word for what happened without him actually posting. For that amount of money it's definately worth him hiring a lawyer to get to the bottom of this. It sounds like he'd be better off getting a full refund and looking elsewhere because he'd never be able to trust her. I think he'd be better off posting the review of Yorkmont himself though. |
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is this you is this the op just wondering |
YouTube - Canal de yorkymom i feel reviews need to be first handed not second hand so why is the guy that you are saying got stiffed not on telling his story |
I told him there are laws to protect him. There's too many people that just don't pursue justice. He said he just wanted to forget the whole nightmare. I however...don't understand. A $6,500.00 loss is not something any normal person should take lightly. |
Why do you ask? |
no it is not but really it is up to him to pursue his loss and reviews should come first hand not defending anyone here but i like to hear thing straight up and reviews are for those that have actually purchased a pup and have first hand experience as to how they were treated what condition there pup was in etc people can get hurt by second hand knowledge . if you werent there than nobody really knows but the breeder and client |
OH! Also it says in my video AKC approved Breeder. I am not an Approved Breeder. It was MY FAULT I worded it wrong. I paid the dues to be an AKC recognized official kennel. Just want to make sure there is no misunderstanding and also, I do remind everyone Yorkies are a Toy Breed as recognized by The American Kennel Club. Titles like "Tiny, Micro, Tiny Teacup or Teacup" is purely for the buyers who specifically ask for this. I'd just prefer to ask "What size Yorkshire Terrier in regards to Adult Weight are you looking for?" *I only mention all the above to you as there are some who do not believe in breeding tiny dogs. Every baby I place comes with a written 100% money back health guarantee. I am literally selling my reputation and to date have not had one single baby returned due to poor genetics. Thanks! |
That's an oldie...She's my first FL Yorkie and is retired. I take her almost everywhere! I LOVEEEE HER!! |
True....very true~ |
So you're Yorkymom! The 'famous' Micro-Teacup yorkie breeder on Youtube. |
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Also derived from another link: "All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed, " Alot of Show Breeders Inbreed/line/cross..... I just am not into that. I feel the risks outweigh the benefir, As a Breeder, MY #1 concern is HEALTH. There are too many breeders who do not make this a priority when working with their breed of choice. There are far FAR too many breeders doind what I do with little or no concern to the Health and Well Being of the animal or the emotions of the parents buying these babies. I turn down people constantly. I have requirements for having a tiny dog. The responsibility of the Breeder does not end when the baby leaves their home/kennel. I do NOT believe in breeding Labradoodles, Schnoodles and other pure breed outcrosses that are termed "Designer Mixes or Hybrids" THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS NEEDING HOMES! I also believe that (And I am sure there are many Breeders who do not feel this way) the Government/Congress should change their regulations and require spay neuter of ALL pets with fines enforced. All breeders should be allowed NO MORE than a certain number of dogs AND THE PUNISHMENT FOR EVERY BREEDER OPERATING ANY FORM OF MILL, ANY SPECIES OR BREED OF ANIMAL ABUSE AND NEGLECT SHOULD BE FARRRRRRR MORE SEVER AND FINES HIGH. I would rather everyone adopt or rescue a shelter pet before buying....even from me! I have this clearly stated on my video responses. My puppies are SPAY NEUTER. I have 3 babies I have ever sold that are for Breeding. There are just TOO MANY dogs, cats and other wonderful little animals needing loving homes...... |
All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed, This is just a thinker for you. I am a SPAY NEUTER person. I have allowed 3 babies to go to families to breed. All dogs are LIMITED REGISTRATION......PERIOD. I do not trust most other Breeders to take this on as seriously as I do. It is alot of work, dedication and LOVE. I do not believe in Labradoodles, Yorkteese, Pomapoos....These are also referred to Designer/Hybrids, THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES TO LOVE........ I do not breed lots of puppies and do not want to and if you read my responses on the video's, I far more encourage ADOPTION. Tinies aren't for everyone, neither is an Afghan, a Chihuahua or some other breeds. I sure would like to see Congress pass a law allowing Breeders to own no more than a set amount of dogs/ cats. I think punishment for animal abuse / neglect should be FAR more than it is and fines greatly increased. There should be more programs assisting those who can provide proper care for a pet but are in in a low income bracket (and qualify)to have their animals spayed/neutered at a reduced or 0 cost. I ALSO think EVERY BREEDER who registers a litter should be required to pay a small fee per pup/kitten to go to Spay/Neuter Programs and Shelters. Breeding is a Responsibility. So is owning any animal. Hope I didn't offend anyone. It's just how I feel. |
Well, it's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. Sorry but my opinion is the same as others that have posted and you certainly have no right to give a review on a breeder that you have had no personal experience with and are only going by word of mouth. Now you have started trying to defend your own program of breeding teacups and micro puppies. Sorry, again but you have no defense. |
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do more research- not all dogs decended from wolves !!!!!!!! |
I FEEL EVERYONE NEEDS TO DISREGUARD THE POST ABOUT YORKMONT she is not the one that was supposedly taken it is second hand info and i also have a problem with knocking another breeder for little ones when you breed little one's yourself and are advertising on youtube!!!!!:thumbdown:thumbdown are you sure you are not mad because she maybe would not sell you one? again we do not need second hand info we need fact's here this is not a forum where people can come and hurt another breeder because they feel like it! and even if there was dirt as you called it i don't think you would get any and the last thing i would ever do is say i breed for tinies teacup's etc that is just wrong and just because you say you have never had a health problem out of them does not mean it will never happen just read the sick forum on here and you will maybe understand how we feel about tinies no offence it is just how i feel |
I FEEL EVERYONE NEEDS TO DISREGUARD THE POST ABOUT YORKMONT I can say as of now, I feel the exact same way. I was just trying to help someone. I do not care if someone does not get a puppy from me. It is important though, that people need to understand the importance of educating themselves as much as possible to avoid the issues effecting alot of the people who do post here. she is not the one that was supposedly taken it is second hand info and i also have a problem with knocking another breeder for little ones when you breed little one's yourself and are advertising on youtube!!!!! I don't sell to just anyone that has money to spend. Having any pet is a big responsibility. are you sure you are not mad because she maybe would not sell you one? SHE WANTED TO SELL HIM TO ME!!! When I questioned the 1 testicle isseue we ended up with her trying to tell me HOW to sell his puppies. I just never called her back......And that is from the source...ME again we do not need second hand info we need fact's here this is not a forum where people can come and hurt another breeder because they feel like it! and even if there was dirt as you called it i don't think you would get any and the last thing i would ever do is say i breed for tinies teacup's etc that is just wrong. Again, please refer to any and all documentation on the origin of all Breeds of Dogs......Poodles were not Teacups and Toys (observed) and now they are after breeding like other Observed standard and smaller varieties. A Yorkshire Terrier is from SEVERAL BREEDS Inbred to create the breed we know and love today. and just because you say you have never had a health problem out of them does not mean it will never happen I absolutely agree with you 110 percent. Show Breeders can even have issues in their lines pop up. Because the dogs I have, their babies and every single client I have are so important to me, I feel having healthy dogs to breed and offering more than just a "standard" guarantee (but just flat out offer every penny back if ever it had to be done). I want to keep my clients as friend indefinitely. It's vital for my genetic records and my responsibility. just read the sick forum on here and you will maybe understand how we feel about tinies I DO!! That's why I think Congress or whatever part of the gov't that handles issues like this need to change the laws to protect people like you and the Breeders who are really dedicated. There's NOT enough being done! no offence it is just how i feel No offense taken! I value everyones opinion, regardless. |
i have another question do you live in destin or niceville fla? i googled your phone number and if it is niceville you have your home for sale that say's you have an outside kennel but you youtube says dog and pups are raised in side in a family enviorment? Additional Features granite countertops, outside seperate gym or office room 16 x 16, dog kennel, garage conversion |
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That is great...great that you have a spay/neuter contract, great that you don't breed designer mixes, and great that you only breed a few litters a year :thumbup: But that does NOT excuse you from purposely breeding tiny yorkies who are at more risk of a c-section and dieing from giving birth, and that does not excuse you from scamming uneducated people into paying more for a lie and doing a disservice to this breed by breeding undersized dogs. :thumbdown Also, I agree with others...why are you writing a review from a breeder you've never had anything to do with? It's one thing to ask if anyone has had any personal experience with this breeder and what their experience was, but most people ask this question hoping for good experiences, not "dirt" |
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Wow, this is a crazy thread and I'm a bit lost! Just want to throw my 2 cents out there (for what it's worth): I do not agree with breeding tiny females (to me, a tiny female is any female under 4-5 lbs). Period, end of story. |
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS?????? My home isn't for sale! Mike, my better 1/2 I think advertised it a LONG time ago when the market got so high. The out door kennel is actually a patio area that a barely use. The dogs have not been inside it once this year. It's in case it is raining and the dogs have to go out to potty. I need to take my phone number off! That creeps me out! (Truly...let me know. Id like to see the ad...) |
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