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yorkiemom36 04-29-2008 07:18 PM

True....very true~

love_me_cody 04-29-2008 10:06 PM

So you're Yorkymom! The 'famous' Micro-Teacup yorkie breeder on Youtube.

MyFairLacy 04-29-2008 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by love_me_cody (Post 1954104)
So you're Yorkymom! The 'famous' Micro-Teacup yorkie breeder on Youtube.

:mad: Why continue the teacup scam? It's such a terrible disservice to our wonderful breed and is just a gimmick to get uneducated people to spend more money. Anyone who believes there is such thing as a teacup yorkie needs to do more research on the breed before they buy a puppy. It just makes me sick to my stomach to see a breeder purposely breeding tiny yorkies and selling them as "teacups" :mad: 4-7lbs is the perfect size for a yorkie..why in the world would you want to breed them smaller than that where their lives are put at risk every day because they are so tiny? I just wish people would be ethical and breed yorkies that are of an ideal size and stop with the teacup crap :thumbdown:thumbdown

missj2007 04-29-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1954131)
:mad: Why continue the teacup scam? It's such a terrible disservice to our wonderful breed and is just a gimmick to get uneducated people to spend more money. Anyone who believes there is such thing as a teacup yorkie needs to do more research on the breed before they buy a puppy. It just makes me sick to my stomach to see a breeder purposely breeding tiny yorkies and selling them as "teacups" :mad: 4-7lbs is the perfect size for a yorkie..why in the world would you want to breed them smaller than that where their lives are put at risk every day because they are so tiny? I just wish people would be ethical and breed yorkies that are of an ideal size and stop with the teacup crap :thumbdown:thumbdown

I agree 100%:thumbup::thumbup:

yorkiemom36 04-30-2008 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by missj2007 (Post 1954132)
I agree 100%:thumbup::thumbup:

I repeat this over and over and over.... A Yorkshire Terrier is "Recognized" as a TOY BREED. Poodles were originally not miniatures and toys, nor schnauzers. As everyone should know, all domestic dogs are mutated (genetic) variations from species millions of years ago that were bred/altered by man. Origin of the domestic dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also derived from another link: "All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed, "

Alot of Show Breeders Inbreed/line/cross..... I just am not into that. I feel the risks outweigh the benefir,

As a Breeder, MY #1 concern is HEALTH. There are too many breeders who do not make this a priority when working with their breed of choice. There are far FAR too many breeders doind what I do with little or no concern to the Health and Well Being of the animal or the emotions of the parents buying these babies.

I turn down people constantly. I have requirements for having a tiny dog. The responsibility of the Breeder does not end when the baby leaves their home/kennel.

I do NOT believe in breeding Labradoodles, Schnoodles and other pure breed outcrosses that are termed "Designer Mixes or Hybrids" THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS NEEDING HOMES!

I also believe that (And I am sure there are many Breeders who do not feel this way) the Government/Congress should change their regulations and require spay neuter of ALL pets with fines enforced. All breeders should be allowed NO MORE than a certain number of dogs AND THE PUNISHMENT FOR EVERY BREEDER OPERATING ANY FORM OF MILL, ANY SPECIES OR BREED OF ANIMAL ABUSE AND NEGLECT SHOULD BE FARRRRRRR MORE SEVER AND FINES HIGH.

I would rather everyone adopt or rescue a shelter pet before buying....even from me! I have this clearly stated on my video responses. My puppies are SPAY NEUTER. I have 3 babies I have ever sold that are for Breeding. There are just TOO MANY dogs, cats and other wonderful little animals needing loving homes......

yorkiemom36 04-30-2008 02:16 AM

All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed,


This is just a thinker for you.

I am a SPAY NEUTER person. I have allowed 3 babies to go to families to breed. All dogs are LIMITED REGISTRATION......PERIOD. I do not trust most other Breeders to take this on as seriously as I do. It is alot of work, dedication and LOVE.

I do not believe in Labradoodles, Yorkteese, Pomapoos....These are also referred to Designer/Hybrids, THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES TO LOVE........ I do not breed lots of puppies and do not want to and if you read my responses on the video's, I far more encourage ADOPTION. Tinies aren't for everyone, neither is an Afghan, a Chihuahua or some other breeds.

I sure would like to see Congress pass a law allowing Breeders to own no more than a set amount of dogs/ cats. I think punishment for animal abuse / neglect should be FAR more than it is and fines greatly increased. There should be more programs assisting those who can provide proper care for a pet but are in in a low income bracket (and qualify)to have their animals spayed/neutered at a reduced or 0 cost.

I ALSO think EVERY BREEDER who registers a litter should be required to pay a small fee per pup/kitten to go to Spay/Neuter Programs and Shelters.

Breeding is a Responsibility. So is owning any animal. Hope I didn't offend anyone. It's just how I feel.

Sugar's Mom 04-30-2008 05:49 AM

Well, it's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. Sorry but my opinion is the same as others that have posted and you certainly have no right to give a review on a breeder that you have had no personal experience with and are only going by word of mouth. Now you have started trying to defend your own program of breeding teacups and micro puppies. Sorry, again but you have no defense.

hasrv4fun 04-30-2008 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiemom36 (Post 1954169)
All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed,


This is just a thinker for you.

I am a SPAY NEUTER person. I have allowed 3 babies to go to families to breed. All dogs are LIMITED REGISTRATION......PERIOD. I do not trust most other Breeders to take this on as seriously as I do. It is alot of work, dedication and LOVE.

I do not believe in Labradoodles, Yorkteese, Pomapoos....These are also referred to Designer/Hybrids, THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES TO LOVE........ I do not breed lots of puppies and do not want to and if you read my responses on the video's, I far more encourage ADOPTION. Tinies aren't for everyone, neither is an Afghan, a Chihuahua or some other breeds.

I sure would like to see Congress pass a law allowing Breeders to own no more than a set amount of dogs/ cats. I think punishment for animal abuse / neglect should be FAR more than it is and fines greatly increased. There should be more programs assisting those who can provide proper care for a pet but are in in a low income bracket (and qualify)to have their animals spayed/neutered at a reduced or 0 cost.

I ALSO think EVERY BREEDER who registers a litter should be required to pay a small fee per pup/kitten to go to Spay/Neuter Programs and Shelters.

Breeding is a Responsibility. So is owning any animal. Hope I didn't offend anyone. It's just how I feel.



do more research- not all dogs decended from wolves !!!!!!!!

KYBLUE 04-30-2008 07:06 AM

I FEEL EVERYONE NEEDS TO DISREGUARD THE POST ABOUT YORKMONT

she is not the one that was supposedly taken it is second hand info

and i also have a problem with knocking another breeder for little ones when you breed little one's yourself and are advertising on youtube!!!!!:thumbdown:thumbdown are you sure you are not mad because she maybe would not sell you one?
again we do not need second hand info we need fact's here this is not a forum where people can come and hurt another breeder because they feel like it! and even if there was dirt as you called it i don't think you would get any and the last thing i would ever do is say i breed for tinies teacup's etc
that is just wrong
and just because you say you have never had a health problem out of them does not mean it will never happen just read the sick forum on here
and you will maybe understand how we feel about tinies
no offence it is just how i feel

yorkiemom36 04-30-2008 07:40 AM

I FEEL EVERYONE NEEDS TO DISREGUARD THE POST ABOUT YORKMONT

I can say as of now, I feel the exact same way. I was just trying to help someone. I do not care if someone does not get a puppy from me. It is important though, that people need to understand the importance of educating themselves as much as possible to avoid the issues effecting alot of the people who do post here.

she is not the one that was supposedly taken it is second hand info

and i also have a problem with knocking another breeder for little ones when you breed little one's yourself and are advertising on youtube!!!!!

I don't sell to just anyone that has money to spend. Having any pet is a big responsibility.

are you sure you are not mad because she maybe would not sell you one?
SHE WANTED TO SELL HIM TO ME!!! When I questioned the 1 testicle isseue we ended up with her trying to tell me HOW to sell his puppies. I just never called her back......And that is from the source...ME

again we do not need second hand info we need fact's here this is not a forum where people can come and hurt another breeder because they feel like it! and even if there was dirt as you called it i don't think you would get any and the last thing i would ever do is say i breed for tinies teacup's etc
that is just wrong. Again, please refer to any and all documentation on the origin of all Breeds of Dogs......Poodles were not Teacups and Toys (observed) and now they are after breeding like other Observed standard and smaller varieties. A Yorkshire Terrier is from SEVERAL BREEDS Inbred to create the breed we know and love today.

and just because you say you have never had a health problem out of them does not mean it will never happen I absolutely agree with you 110 percent. Show Breeders can even have issues in their lines pop up. Because the dogs I have, their babies and every single client I have are so important to me, I feel having healthy dogs to breed and offering more than just a "standard" guarantee (but just flat out offer every penny back if ever it had to be done). I want to keep my clients as friend indefinitely. It's vital for my genetic records and my responsibility.

just read the sick forum on here
and you will maybe understand how we feel about tinies I DO!! That's why I think Congress or whatever part of the gov't that handles issues like this need to change the laws to protect people like you and the Breeders who are really dedicated. There's NOT enough being done!

no offence it is just how i feel No offense taken! I value everyones opinion, regardless.

KYBLUE 04-30-2008 07:42 AM

i have another question do you live in destin or niceville fla? i googled your phone number

and if it is niceville you have your home for sale that say's you have an outside kennel but you youtube says dog and pups are raised in side in a family enviorment?



Additional Features
granite countertops, outside seperate gym or office room 16 x 16, dog kennel, garage conversion

MyFairLacy 04-30-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiemom36 (Post 1954169)
All dogs descended from the wolf (probably various kinds) and began domestication some 10-12,000 years ago. It is popular to look at wolf behaviour and to conclude that dog behaviour has changed. Of course it has. Some behaviours seen in the wolf would have no purpose in a modern dog : burying food, for example, or vomiting up food for cubs. Some behaviours are not feasible because the conformation of the dog has been changed and this prevents some activities. Rightly or wrongly, we have tended to select dogs to retain their juvenile state and this has meant drop ears ( not as expressive as erect ones) while hairy faces and docked tails inhibit a dog's ability to convey messages to other dogs. That modern canine behaviour has changed from that of the wolf is not in itself a problem in the majority of cases. It could be in dogs that go feral but in most modern societies we are seeking to avoid that. The border collie herding sheep is following the hunting habit of the wolf but the exercise does not end up in a kill because man has brought about behavioural modification through selection. In contrast the fighting nature of some Pit Bull terriers is not the least bit wolf-like and represents the corrupting influence of man upon this tragic breed,

I'm sorry but what does that have to do with breeding "teacup" yorkies??? This just seems really off-topic and not to be rude, but a little uneducated based on what I know of the dog as a species. Did you know that wolves and dogs were actually reclassified as the exact same species? The domesticated dog is only a subspecies of the wolf. Dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Not this has a thing to do with the review in this thread...)

Quote:

This is just a thinker for you.

I am a SPAY NEUTER person. I have allowed 3 babies to go to families to breed. All dogs are LIMITED REGISTRATION......PERIOD. I do not trust most other Breeders to take this on as seriously as I do. It is alot of work, dedication and LOVE.

I do not believe in Labradoodles, Yorkteese, Pomapoos....These are also referred to Designer/Hybrids, THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNER MIXES IN AMERICA'S SHELTERS AND RESCUE PROGRAMS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES TO LOVE........ I do not breed lots of puppies and do not want to and if you read my responses on the video's, I far more encourage ADOPTION. Tinies aren't for everyone, neither is an Afghan, a Chihuahua or some other breeds.

I sure would like to see Congress pass a law allowing Breeders to own no more than a set amount of dogs/ cats. I think punishment for animal abuse / neglect should be FAR more than it is and fines greatly increased. There should be more programs assisting those who can provide proper care for a pet but are in in a low income bracket (and qualify)to have their animals spayed/neutered at a reduced or 0 cost.

I ALSO think EVERY BREEDER who registers a litter should be required to pay a small fee per pup/kitten to go to Spay/Neuter Programs and Shelters.

Breeding is a Responsibility. So is owning any animal. Hope I didn't offend anyone. It's just how I feel.

That is great...great that you have a spay/neuter contract, great that you don't breed designer mixes, and great that you only breed a few litters a year :thumbup: But that does NOT excuse you from purposely breeding tiny yorkies who are at more risk of a c-section and dieing from giving birth, and that does not excuse you from scamming uneducated people into paying more for a lie and doing a disservice to this breed by breeding undersized dogs. :thumbdown

Also, I agree with others...why are you writing a review from a breeder you've never had anything to do with? It's one thing to ask if anyone has had any personal experience with this breeder and what their experience was, but most people ask this question hoping for good experiences, not "dirt"

bchgirl 04-30-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1954852)

Also, I agree with others...why are you writing a review from a breeder you've never had anything to do with? It's one thing to ask if anyone has had any personal experience with this breeder and what their experience was, but most people ask this question hoping for good experiences, not "dirt"

Personally I think it was to promote her own kennel.

JCarlson2004 04-30-2008 09:42 AM

Wow, this is a crazy thread and I'm a bit lost! Just want to throw my 2 cents out there (for what it's worth):

I do not agree with breeding tiny females (to me, a tiny female is any female under 4-5 lbs). Period, end of story.

yorkiemom36 04-30-2008 10:14 AM

WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS?????? My home isn't for sale! Mike, my better 1/2 I think advertised it a LONG time ago when the market got so high. The out door kennel is actually a patio area that a barely use. The dogs have not been inside it once this year. It's in case it is raining and the dogs have to go out to potty. I need to take my phone number off! That creeps me out! (Truly...let me know. Id like to see the ad...)


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