Very well said!

I dont think the breeders have to have a holier than thou attitude however breeders dont have to post here. The amount of breeders that post in the breeder section has drastically reduced since Ive been here. I think when someone posts a question here they should be happy there is someone qualified enough to answer it. That is not always the case

Seems like some of the comment on this thread only reinforces the OP's point. I've seen many questions asked here that make me go "OMG, what are they doing breeding?" but ignorance isn't necessarily stupidity. I'm far from the most experienced breeder here but I feel anyone that found their way here at least loves their dogs and are trying. Everyone has to start somewhere and, no, I'm not suggesting that breeding Yorkies is for everyone but, my gosh, how do you learn anything if you don't know what it is that you don't know? I don't think new people here read every thread before posting a question. They just ask what's on their mind and many get a real kick in the pants for asking. It amazes me that on the general discussion forum people will do the dumbest things that result in the death of their dog and they get nothing but sympathy and here, well here is a tough place sometimes. I've posted before that the short leap from blunt to rude is made all too often. I was raised to try to be polite, especially with people you don't know. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. The purpose of this forum would be better served by everyone trying a little more kindness. I'm sure the advice being offered would be better heeded if put to people a little more gently :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)

I absolutely agree with you Misty. I can't believe what I read, and to be blunt it's not just questions (we all have Q's), but bad advise from new breeders. In general, I think there's a careless feeling. One can feel like an oddball for standing out when the majority has shifted (I'm not talking cliques, never been in one, don't care to be). I have to admit, I'll log on and accidentally leave my comp on (we have cable) so it'll appear to someone I'm on all the time lol. But I do log on and sometimes with all the advise on breeding given by breeders and non breeders is just a "turn off". Lord help, if anyone takes offense too bad, I don't mean it.

I know how you feel. Breeder Talk, to me isn't for my entertainment, I actually want to help especially if a mom or puppy is in trouble. Non breeders of course are welcome, I know they learn alot and I enjoy their posts. Most are supportive, some just like to put down breeders or stir the pot.

I've been thankful for Breeder Talk, I post 99.9 percent in this forum. I used to learn alot. I hope everyone continues to.

You are absolutely right! That was just what I was thinking when I read back through the replies, thinking to myself, "This is exactly what I'm talking about.":(

I used to log on to YT to chat, laugh and learn with "friends." It used to be more 'fun' but...that doesn't always seem to be the case now. In the past weeks there were times when I needed to 'escape' and would log on to YT because for so long that was what it was for me...somewhere to go and talk w/ friends and enjoy it. But that's not the case now...I'd log on for a minute, read and just cut of the PC. And it sucks!

:thumbup: I agree...
BUT there are some posts made that just make your jaw DROP :eek: :eek:
I'm not a professional breeder.BUT I am not a careless BYB.
I researched and learned all I could for almost 2 years before even thinking of breeding. I think that most of those here really are trying to be helpful.
But it does get a bit nasty at times.All of them did start somewhere.
But I know it wasn't by a YT post of silliness...
Not picking on anyone here. But when dogs kept outside....not even knowing what a TIE is...nothing about the gestation period , or complications that can AND do happen a lot with Yorkies.
Is just not responsible breeding in my book.
Not that all "professional breeders" are.....
But there is a wonderful amount of info here, for those who are open to it.
And though I know a lot...I learn so much here.
Most of the people here are great...

I've never been one to come down on anyone at all (well that is, if you don't count an experienced breeder breeding 3 pound dogs on purpose). I know you're speaking in general, I agree. Things can be said tactfully but must be done so bluntly and not sugar coated. I guess the difference between the forums is that people expect that the breeders should have more knowledge/experience than to be plain ignorant as some have been in the past. That's not said to insult, there are ignorant people everywhere as well as forum trolls, just as there are caring breeders and well intentioned posters that want to learn.

[quote=BamaFan121s;1864912]I hope things are better for you now.

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Getting there, slowly. Thanks. :)

Yes, I was speaking generally. I agree with you about breeding 3 pound females. In 2006, I bought a little girl, absolutely gorgeous, great pedigree. She grew to have a wonderful coat, perfect proportions and only more gorgeous. Let me tell you, I REALLY wanted to breed her but, by one year old, she had only reached 3 pounds. With MUCH regret, I had her spayed. She now fulfills her role as 'House Princess'. P.S. Last year I purchased a full brother of hers'. :D :D :D

I bet it was heart breaking to have to spay such a great representation of the breed, but I want to say I commend you for doing the right thing and spaying her!!

She sounds like a beauty! I'll bet her brother will produce some like her. I know how it is, the gorgeous one you're watching to grow just doesn't make the cut for being a mom. Then again, they're the ones you can spoil and look at all day long lol

Excellent Post Misty:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I just couldn't agree more. It just saddens me so much what most breeders have done to this wonderful breed. Yorkies are massed produced...no health screening done and no regard to if the dog even meetss the standard...and now we have many yorkies that don't even look like a yorkie according to the standard. And look at the health problems that plague this breed...yes, even the best breeders sometimes contribute to this..but it's mostly a resuls of bybs and puppymills. People breed tiny dogs and put their lives at risk just so they can lie to the public about having "teacups" and make $$$. It's just sickening. IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE :thumbdown

And I am SICK of people being more worried about being rude to a newbie over the safety and well-being of the dog. Things need to be said whether the person wants to hear it or not. People need to get over their pride, ego, or whatever and listen to good advise when it is given. Most people don't care because they are out to make $$$...they don't want to take the time and spend the money for quality dogs or for health screening...they just want to pop out puppies and *hope* they aren't ever responsible for the defects they produce. These breeders cause heartache for the new family and pain for the puppy they brought into this world.

I'm not a breeder but I know what it takes to breed to right way. I've done my research so that I can find a reputable breeder in the future. It's sad when I know more about the breed and breeding ethically than some breeders... it's not that difficult to do your research before breeding! I for one refuse to help any breeder breeding for the wrong reasons...yes, I care about the poor dogs...but I will NOT support bad breeding period. If someone is really trying to learn and willing to listen, I'll talk to them all day long if that's what they want...I'm willing to help anyone, no matter the subject, if they want the help. But I will not be apart of reckless breeding.

I'm just sick of it...why can't people just educate themselves before they buy a dog and definitely before they breed it? Breed for the right reasons. Breed the right way!

I am one of those people who read read read....I surf the net, read books...join forums etc. ANYTHING I can to learn.
I tend to be silly sometimes with my posts.
Just to lighten the tone of the board sometimes. (like my goat post)
I have to say tho...sometimes if you're one of those who really is trying to help it must become sooooooo irritating...
Not me...I leave most of the answering to the experts :)
And so many times its the same questions!
I wonder if some dont know HOW to do a search.
Then some I think ARE just trolls.
But I'm pretty good at trolls too.
When I first got online 10 years ago..It was to join a gay group when my son came out. Big time trolls...lol
Its just part of the online experience.
Somewhere I read where someone, a newbie I think
Said ,"well I just put them on ignore if I dont like what they say."
Now....lot of good THAT is going to do ya..
Read...learn...be open to learning
Not just to what you WANT to hear :) :) :) :)

Yes, she gets plenty of spoiling and she has MUCH attitude (as befits a lady of her station ;) ) but I guess I'm digressing fro the OP's purpose. At the risk of digressing even more, may I suggest y'all check out 'Best In Show', a movie about dog shows. It is LMAO funny!! We could all use a good laugh here. :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)