Do you breeders really make no money at all from breeding??

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

should I just post a link about YTCA codes and ethics? LOL that way all of it comes out right! everything in it was basically what I said in this and other threads

Yep, the YTCA code of ethics is definitely a great starting place when determining if a breeder is reputable or not

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Yep, the YTCA code of ethics is definitely a great starting place when determining if a breeder is reputable or not

I know, buyers should go through the list and create their questions there. And from there create more smaller questions (like know exactly what types of test their dogs needed to be tested of).

[kathrynS]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Well...I have to say that I think you are wrong. You'll always have bad breeders only breeding to make money. Reputable breeders breed because they love this breed. I guess I'll try to describe how I feel (even though I don't breed)....I am so in love with the Yorkshire Terrier breed - the way a well-bred yorkie looks, the way they act, that long silky coat, everything that makes a Yorkshire Terrier what it is. These are just amazing little dogs...there is just something so special about them. Those that show and breed are in love with this breed too. They show to prove they have excellent examples of the breed. They breed to improve the breed and to breed the best examples possible. Most breed to get that next show quality puppy. They strive to breed healthy, quality puppies for the show ring and to be placed into pet homes. They want to preserve this wonderful breed. I bet making money is the furthest thing from reputable show breeders' minds....they spend a lot more money than they make. It's about a passion and love for the breed - NOT making money

And thats why I come to this board. Thank You Lacy. So Happy To Hear I'm Wrong. Exactly the answer I wanted. (FOR THE LOVE OF THE BREED) not the money. Great,Great,Great wording. Keep up the good work.

[Gazou]

All my yorkies are tested for patellar , hips , thyroid , heart , eyes , liver shunt. So I don't consider I make a fortune with them .

[iloveYorkiesFL]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

I know, 1.5lbs-3lbs (maybe 4lbs if lucky) for $3000-$7000... I told her she was ripping people off and creating bad puppies.... and everyone is actually buying from her because she knows where to advertise. A place where millions go everyday... Youtube..

I agree with you that there are breeders on YT that breed unethically! There is actually a handful of breeders who breed females in the 2-4lbs range...and what's worse is that there are other breeders on YT that praise these breeders! These same breeders charge $5000 to $10000 for "tiny" pet puppies and claim that they can charge whatever they feel their baby is worth. Yes, we all like to think our babies are priceless, but $10000 for a pet yorkie? That is just "silly talk" (taking this from the debate last night, thanks Obama ). My breeder is a retired show breeder and sold pet quality pups in the $800 to $1200 range. Another point, there are breeders on YT that shouldn't breed...Sires and Dams that don't BEST represent the Yorkie breed... there will always be people who shouldn't that do. Yes, it's sad. The truth is that EVERYONE Has to be careful when purchasing a puppy, even if your fellow YTer recommended a breeder...you just HAVE to do your homework. Period.

However, I don't agree that ANYONE should be creating a new Yorkie. There is a standard already in place. If they are looking to create a new standard, more power to them, but what they have created isn't a Yorkie...but something else.

Btw, i love this thread! I think the subject has been handled so maturely!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by iloveYorkiesFL

I agree with you that there are breeders on YT that breed unethically! There is actually a handful of breeders who breed females in the 2-4lbs range...and what's worse is that there are other breeders on YT that praise these breeders! These same breeders charge $5000 to $10000 for "tiny" pet puppies and claim that they can charge whatever they feel their baby is worth. Yes, we all like to think our babies are priceless, but $10000 for a pet yorkie? That is just "silly talk" (taking this from the debate last night, thanks Obama ). My breeder is a retired show breeder and sold pet quality pups in the $800 to $1200 range. Another point, there are breeders on YT that shouldn't breed...Sires and Dams that don't BEST represent the Yorkie breed... there will always be people who shouldn't that do. Yes, it's sad. The truth is that EVERYONE Has to be careful when purchasing a puppy, even if your fellow YTer recommended a breeder...you just HAVE to do your homework. Period.

However, I don't agree that ANYONE should be creating a new Yorkie. There is a standard already in place. If they are looking to create a new standard, more power to them, but what they have created isn't a Yorkie...but something else.

Btw, i love this thread! I think the subject has been handled so maturely!

I agree with you 100%.

And it is VERY nice when people can express different views w/out bickering.

[iloveYorkiesFL]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Hmm...I do know of a breeder that advertises here that does that... Not someone I would ever buy from. I think it's aweful to breed for such tiny dogs...and also terrible to charge so much money

I agree with everything you have said. You just have a way with words.. The Yorkie is such a beautiful breed, it is sad to see what people have done with it. I think it's awesome when I meet owners/breeders who recognize this and want this amazing breed to live on...

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by iloveYorkiesFL

I agree with you that there are breeders on YT that breed unethically! There is actually a handful of breeders who breed females in the 2-4lbs range...and what's worse is that there are other breeders on YT that praise these breeders! These same breeders charge $5000 to $10000 for "tiny" pet puppies and claim that they can charge whatever they feel their baby is worth. Yes, we all like to think our babies are priceless, but $10000 for a pet yorkie? That is just "silly talk" (taking this from the debate last night, thanks Obama ). My breeder is a retired show breeder and sold pet quality pups in the $800 to $1200 range. Another point, there are breeders on YT that shouldn't breed...Sires and Dams that don't BEST represent the Yorkie breed... there will always be people who shouldn't that do. Yes, it's sad. The truth is that EVERYONE Has to be careful when purchasing a puppy, even if your fellow YTer recommended a breeder...you just HAVE to do your homework. Period.

However, I don't agree that ANYONE should be creating a new Yorkie. There is a standard already in place. If they are looking to create a new standard, more power to them, but what they have created isn't a Yorkie...but something else.

Btw, i love this thread! I think the subject has been handled so maturely!

I see breeders with not even half the quality of a dog that should be bred. But they breed them and end up getting a lot of money from the litter and get a better quality, just to be able to get more money and say they 'have some of the best around.' Not to better the breed, but to be able to show that they now have a greater quality and and are able to charge more... Then some are also using showing as a way to jack up the price even more because a champion sired/grandsired pup is sought after for breeding.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by iloveYorkiesFL

I agree with everything you have said. You just have a way with words.. The Yorkie is such a beautiful breed, it is sad to see what people have done with it. I think it's awesome when I meet owners/breeders who recognize this and want this amazing breed to live on...

I love your signature

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

I see breeders with not even half the quality of a dog that should be bred. But they breed them and end up getting a lot of money from the litter and get a better quality, just to be able to get more money and say they 'have some of the best around.' Not to better the breed, but to be able to show that they now have a greater quality and and are able to charge more... Then some are also using showing as a way to jack up the price even more because a champion sired/grandsired pup is sought after for breeding.

Yes, there are unethical show breeders as well. You have to be cautious with any breeder

[EmrldShdwQueen]

Very good informative thread (although slightly off topic lol)

[iloveYorkiesFL]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I love your signature

Thanks.. I have had it for maybe two years now! lol. I just read yours...i think it needs to be said over and over and over again...

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen

Very good informative thread (although slightly off topic lol)

yeah, it was my fault we got off topic... I wanted to act like the other person for once. (teacher told me that you couldn't win a good debate if you couldn't step into the others shoes)

[EmrldShdwQueen]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

yeah, it was my fault we got off topic... I wanted to act like the other person for once. (teacher told me that you couldn't win a good debate if you couldn't step into the others shoes)

lol, no I enjoyed reading yours, you questioned all the right things...

[hha]

Originally Posted by kathrynS

Nice thread. I always wondered why people bred their dogs if not to sell. Why would you breed a dog if you weren't trying to make money. WHY? I only have 1 yorkie. I have no intention of ever breeding. If I was gonna show, which I'm not, then maybe I would make sure he was the best. But I don't think people are gonna breed just to have a house full of yorkies. Unless you're a super nice person and want to share your love for them. I love my little one. And I don't know what a back yard breeder is. But I meet the person I got my pup from. Great people. I got him for 450.00. Meet his mother and father. Got all the papers. Went out to the backyard to get him. LOL. So what is the reason for breeding if not trying to make big money???. WHY???. I know you want to keep the breed alive, But pretty soon you're not gonna be able to give them away. Yeah I remember those good old days when a puppy was just given to a good home. Well color me stupid if i'm wrong.

Kathryn, we both must be as old as dirt, as I remember those days too..have beatuiful pups and give them away...those were the good old days!