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TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1595801)
If you allow full registration what guarantee do you have that this female won't be used again and again for breeding??? Be very careful!
U're 100% right! Thanks so very much!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gutu28 (Post 1595849)
I know nothing about breeding, but it sounds like she wasn't very honest with you from the beginning..that would make be very leary of dealing with her since she knows that girl isn't supposed to be bred. Good luck and be careful! Personally..i would move on, or have her spayed before you sell her.
Oh trust me I am!! It's sad people will mislead U!! Thanks so very much for U're thoughts!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by francis53 (Post 1595853)
She misled you, if she said she wasn't interested in breeding and now wants to! That's not right, you have ever right to back out of the deal or stick with it and sell your dog with limited reg. That was your deal, I wouldn't trust her to stop at just one litter either. JMO, good luck with what ever you decide to do.
Martha
What if I would of just let Billie go with her NOT KNOWING??? What would of happened to her?? With the Limited Reg. There's no sure fire way of knowing she'll even get her spayed!! Even with a Contract!! Thanks so much for U're thoughts!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1596374)
I can't believe she actually said that if you don't let your female have at least one litter before being spayed she will have false pregnancies for many years. That is so untrue!! Spay is easier on them while they're sexual organs are yet immature. If the hormones never come into play than a false pregnancy can never occur as far as I've been told. I would consult my vet just to be sure. Something about this lady just doesn't ring true. Sounds to me like she's trying to get a litter cheap!
U're my HEREO!!!!!!! Girls she is there for me with EVERY single Yorkie I have!! Even tho they are not from her litters!! My Sage is well worth everything for when I adopted Sage from Tami, then I adopted Tami as well! I couldn't ASK for a BETTER BREEDER! I hope I grow up to be just like U Tami! LOL!

We got Tiffanie Spaded due to her throwing out to big of puppies (We didn't want our babies to suffer not being adopted due to their Mothers size!) and they told me at our Vets we did a good thing and may of saved her from having Cancer later in her life. What U say sounds right. I'm gonna call our Vet tomorrow and see what they say. I'm so thankful U've helped me Tami. U're so great! U'll never know what U mean to me and how U're wisdom has helped me in so many ways!! U're such a great TEACHER! I hope I can be a great Student! LOL! A MILLION Hugs to U!!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1596522)
Before I answer this question Tami.....your mailbox is full...

First of all what this woman has told you is false information....you spay a bitch so they don't have the possibility of pregnacy and hormones are diminished....no possibility of false pregnacy..... You always attempt to spay a pet yorkie prior to their first Season.....less chance of cancer.

I'm a bit concerned about how reputable she is...since she states up front that she purposely breeds her small girl because of small puppies and she gets more money for them......
The Cancer part is what our Vet told us too!! See that bothered me too, I felt as tho she was trying to CON me into letting her breed Billie with the smaller babies part! Worried me too! Our Tiffanie was bigger lots bigger! To big! But our Sage is I'd say gonna be around 6 & 1/2 lbs to maybe 7 lbs. I would be so scared to breed smaller ones! Thanks so much for U're Thoughts!

gutu28 12-10-2007 07:05 PM
I am SO SO SO glad we were able to prevent this little girl from going to a home like that. That makes me SOOOO happy!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1596532)
I know..that is so untrue! A dog can NOT go through false pregnancies if she is spayed. Only unspayed females have true false pregnancies.

I believe only yorkies that meet the standard should be bred...so I guess to me that means show quality. What's the point in breeding a pet quality dog?
Well we all learn and the best part of it is to at least "TRY" to improve U're line, the shame is when U keep Breeding and get the "Pet Quality" puppies and adopt them out as AKC STANDARDS knowing they are NOT that. This is why NONE of our BABIES has went as SHOW puppies... Teddy and Tiffanies' babies was NEVER told they was show. And this is ANOTHER reason to this day Tiffanie is NOW spaded...She just throws out 1 big puppy like her Mother does and everyone judges EVERYONE of Tiffanies Babies by Tiffanies' weight!! But to tell the truth, she has had 2 babies out of 9 that was over the AKC standard weight!! But we still choose to put a stop to it. And this is another reason we WILL NOT ALLOW our babies to be bred, what is the point of us getting Tiffanie spaded and allowing her puppies to be bred when throwing out big puppies COULD be passed on to her puppies? & We WANT SHOW babies so this is why we are trying to improve our line! I'm not upset at U're thoughts just trying to explain and make a point about the breeding our babies. Thanks for all U're thoughts!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fannie (Post 1596620)
I would be backing out of this one quickly. #1, she stated that It should NOT be a business. Does that raise any red flags for you?

I would simply tell her that the questionnaire she filled out stated that she was not buying her for breeding purposes. That you do not intend on giving her full registration. This will not stop her from breeding her though. The only way you can ensure that is to have her spayed before she leaves your home.

And no, I would not care what lines the males has. I wouldn't consider this as a way to improve or add a line to my breeding program. Especially under the circumstances.
U're right on it's not a BUSINESS! Yes it does raise red flags! I will use U're advise when I tell her. Thanks for U're thoughts!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT (Post 1596645)
I would back out completely on the sale.
She filled out the application with no interest to breed.
If she is pulling this now, you are in for a lot more suprises from her.
I would back out before she gets your pup

Deana
Prestigeous
Your RIGHT I'm backing OUT!! I can't risk Billie's future with her wanting to breed. I don't want Billie to throw out big puppies like her Mother and her puppies suffer not being adopted due to size. Thanks so much for U're thoughts!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1597142)
After reading her email regarding making money, what are the chances of her only breeding once? If she got a litter of nice puppies and got a big price, you can pretty much take it to the bank she will breed her a number of times...

How can a dog have a false pregnancy when it is spayed and has no reproductive organs..no ovaries, no hormones, no hormones, no false pregnancies...this woman can not have ever bred and shown in the past...
I don't know what the chances are but I'm not taking any with my Billie!! Maybe I should ask her what her show name is?? Thanks for U're advice!

TeddyandTiffy 12-10-2007 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 1597187)
Besides above mentioned, you don't really know the males lines, sure she mentioned Champions (a few in how many gens?).... but you do know where the girl is from and you don't want any from her (from what I read, you were trying to improve your line) as she's on the large side. This woman's being manipulative. Good luck.
Yes we're trying to improve our line and no I don't know where the CH is in their lines. Thanks for U're thoughts!

mypreciouspups 12-10-2007 08:07 PM
I think she outright lied to you. I would not sell this this person what so ever.
I would not trust her, again unless I had puppy spayed prior too!!!
pooh's mum


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