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Breny 12-07-2007 10:05 AM
First time being bred question
 
A friend just called me asking me about her female. She's 2, and this is her 1st time being bred with a proven stud.

She's only put the 2 together 2 times, she's flagging and letting her male mount but she said that when her male begins pentration her girl yipes (she described it sounding like as though she stepped on her foot!) and she hasn't held her down because she doesn't want to hurt her.

She is asking my advice but I've never had this happen. My 1st timers have never yelped like this.

Oh and after the yelp it scares her male so he gets off her, and she runs, but still runs back to him but is a little timid when he trys to remount.

Anyone ever have this and what should she do? I had no suggestions for her but to hold her down?

BamaFan121s 12-07-2007 10:27 AM
Happens every time with my female. She yelps and tries to run. Thus why I have to sit and hold her and continue to do so until the tie is broken.

Breny 12-07-2007 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1588091)
Happens every time with my female. She yelps and tries to run. Thus why I have to sit and hold her and continue to do so until the tie is broken.
Mine have never yelped. I think it would scare me too! Mine have made a little noise but not like she described. I hold my girls regardless, the whole time.

I have a whole set up. Brodie is real good and I calm my girls down quick and just sit with them, sometimes I lay with them until its all over. I couldn't imagine not holding them. there is just no way.

She was just concerned about her female being hurt and how the male jumps right off (the noise scared him) when she yelped.

tiggerr36792 12-07-2007 10:57 AM
Some first time females can flag before they are ready due to the hormone change they are not used to. Have her check the female to see if she is ready to accept the male. Peanut is a seasoned bitch and she does make an initial squeak when Bowie ties with her, some are just tighter then others.

BamaFan121s 12-07-2007 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 1588150)
She was just concerned about her female being hurt and how the male jumps right off (the noise scared him) when she yelped.
I understand her concerns...I asked the same thing the first time I witnessed it too. Just letting her know mine does it everytime, every female is different, but it is not uncommon for this to happen.:)

Breny 12-07-2007 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1588250)
I understand her concerns...I asked the same thing the first time I witnessed it too. Just letting her know mine does it everytime, every female is different, but it is not uncommon for this to happen.:)
Thank you! Thats one thing I know I've learned..........is that I'm still learning everyday :D

Breny 12-07-2007 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1588206)
Some first time females can flag before they are ready due to the hormone change they are not used to. Have her check the female to see if she is ready to accept the male. Peanut is a seasoned bitch and she does make an initial squeak when Bowie ties with her, some are just tighter then others.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!:)

Ladyhawk 12-07-2007 12:04 PM
She may need dialating or to check for obstruction. You can lubricate a gloved pinky and gently insert it.

YorkieRose 12-07-2007 12:15 PM
breeding
 
I agree with Tami...many first time bitches need dilating and some yelp out of fear. I have touched the back of their legs and got the same reaction as the stud...yelps! Sometimes a soft muzzle will calm a female and prevent biting the stud...and it helps if the bitch knows the owner is dominant.

Breny 12-07-2007 01:13 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone!!! How do you dialate?

txshopper73 12-07-2007 02:49 PM
All I can say is that it's her first time and it probably hurts a little. London and Gracie's first tie...you'd think someone was killing them. Now, my little Gracie is a pro ;) just kidding but she doesn't yelp anymore.

Ladyhawk 12-07-2007 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 1588656)
Thanks for the replies everyone!!! How do you dialate?
You glove with a tight glove, lubricate well and very gently and slowly insert your pinky into the bitches vulva. You shouldn't meet with any obstruction but if you do and it can't be gently pushed aside than you may need to take her to the vet to have the obstruction removed.

Breny 12-07-2007 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 1588910)
All I can say is that it's her first time and it probably hurts a little. London and Gracie's first tie...you'd think someone was killing them. Now, my little Gracie is a pro ;) just kidding but she doesn't yelp anymore.
Really??? Wow, my girls and the girls I've had over for stud never yelped. So I really didn't know what to tell her.

I'm passing on all the info though - thanks everyone!

Breny 12-07-2007 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1588935)
You glove with a tight glove, lubricate well and very gently and slowly insert your pinky into the bitches vulva. You shouldn't meet with any obstruction but if you do and it can't be gently pushed aside than you may need to take her to the vet to have the obstruction removed.
Thank you. What would the obstruction be if she came to that?

Ladyhawk 12-07-2007 06:03 PM
Usually a small peice of tissue like our hymen but it could also just be a narrow spot.


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