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tinybaby · 03-31-2005, 11:32 AM

Can someone out there telll what the differences is between a broker & a breeder.........thanks

Whitech6 · 03-31-2005, 11:42 AM

They buy dogs from kennels and then resell them to pet stores and to individuals. Also here is a good example of a broker. Read this thread http://talk.buybelowcost.com/eve/ubb...23/m/647107029

PlatinumYorkies · 03-31-2005, 11:54 AM

The Hunte Corporation - A Commercial Puppy Broker
The Hunte Corporation is one of the largest, if not the largest, broker of puppies to pet stores. According to newspaper articles, they sold 85,000 puppies in 2002. They buy dogs from commercial kennels across the Midwest and then resell them to pet stores. In their ads they call themselves the "World's Leading Supplier of Quality Puppies" The ad goes on to claim: "State of the art facilities offering constant attention to health, care and comfort of every puppy ... pioneering delivery system with continuous fresh air exchange, constant temperature, purified drinking water, sanitary compartments, air ride for animal stress reduction" The ads never mention the parents of the puppies. They never say anything about the conditions in which they live. They never talk about purified water for them. Or fresh air. Or comfort. They do not address the issue of keeping dogs in cages for their entire lives. Is there anyone, who doesn't work for the kennel industry, in this country who supports keeping dogs in cages?

The Hunte Corporate, as a broker of puppies to pet stores, is covered under the Animal Welfare Act which is enforced by the United States Department of Agriculture. We submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the USDA for copies of the loans given to The Hunte Corporation. What we got back was a pile of papers that were mostly redacted. We have tried to put the pieces of the puzzle together from the information we were able to read. What it indicates is that Hunte has received at least 2 Rural Development Business and Industry Loans from the USDA. It appears that the company originally asked for 750k on July 5, 2000 but increased that amount to 2.8 million. That loan is due in 2020. Then in September 17, 2001 they received another loan for 900k which is due in 2008. They may have received earlier loans in 1996. According to the loan documents, these 3.5 million dollar loans were secured by accounts receivable and inventory. The papers say that in 2002 Hunte had 150 employees and 26 million dollars in sales. So the same agency that is charged with inspecting kennels and brokers is the same agency that underwrote 3.5 million dollars in loans to a business it inspects. How can this possibly be acceptable?

The Hunte Corporation claims to sell quality puppies.

Passionfruition · 03-31-2005, 11:56 AM

This is DEFINITELY not a "big business" broker like the one above, but I almost bought from a lady who dealt with the 'business' side for the breeder. However, all questions I had for the breeder, she could not answer and wouldn't let me talk directly to the breeder.

(I thought this was shady & I found my puppy elsewhere!!!)

tinybaby · 03-31-2005, 12:00 PM

So if a breeder on website sells different kinds of dogs -- or even just one breed ----Like the woman who I want to buy a puppy from she does not breed them -- she get them from a company then sells them on her web site & makes % of the sale of the dog..hummmm ---

Whitech6 · 03-31-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tinybaby

So if a breeder on website sells different kinds of dogs -- or even just one breed ----Like the woman who I want to buy a puppy from she does not breed them -- she get them from a company then sells them on her web site & makes % of the sale of the dog..hummmm ---

That would be a puppy broker

SoCalyorkiLvr · 03-31-2005, 01:15 PM

I think DivaPup.com would be considered a Puppy Broker as well.

PlatinumYorkies · 03-31-2005, 01:39 PM

http://www.yorkiesandmore.com/aboutus.htm

I THINK THIS COMPANY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF A BROKER!!!!!!!!!

YorkieRose · 03-31-2005, 03:18 PM

Divapup was open in her statement that they buy from breeders and resell. They admit to being a broker.

Luvmypupster · 03-31-2005, 03:48 PM

There are also lots of small scale broker. The Dallas / Fort Worth newspapers are full of people selling pups that are in fact brokers.

mojo · 03-31-2005, 07:56 PM

I went to that broker website and my question is he is showing shipping as $50-$75. Most other people charge $200-300 for shipping. I realize they need a crate and vet clearance, but come on, whats with the price difference!

PlatinumYorkies · 03-31-2005, 08:08 PM

There also isn't a price of his puppies either

03-31-2005, 11:32 AM	#1
tinybaby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 11	What is a a broker? Can someone out there telll what the differences is between a broker & a breeder.........thanks

03-31-2005, 11:42 AM	#2
Whitech6 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Colony, Texas Posts: 440	They buy dogs from kennels and then resell them to pet stores and to individuals. Also here is a good example of a broker. Read this thread http://talk.buybelowcost.com/eve/ubb...23/m/647107029 __________________ Some say a dog is a mans best friend but it can only be a womens companion till the end My dog is always my Friend, In my eyes, she will be to the end Cordelia's Mommy

03-31-2005, 11:54 AM	#3
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	This Is About a commercial Broker...... The Hunte Corporation - A Commercial Puppy Broker The Hunte Corporation is one of the largest, if not the largest, broker of puppies to pet stores. According to newspaper articles, they sold 85,000 puppies in 2002. They buy dogs from commercial kennels across the Midwest and then resell them to pet stores. In their ads they call themselves the "World's Leading Supplier of Quality Puppies" The ad goes on to claim: "State of the art facilities offering constant attention to health, care and comfort of every puppy ... pioneering delivery system with continuous fresh air exchange, constant temperature, purified drinking water, sanitary compartments, air ride for animal stress reduction" The ads never mention the parents of the puppies. They never say anything about the conditions in which they live. They never talk about purified water for them. Or fresh air. Or comfort. They do not address the issue of keeping dogs in cages for their entire lives. Is there anyone, who doesn't work for the kennel industry, in this country who supports keeping dogs in cages? The Hunte Corporate, as a broker of puppies to pet stores, is covered under the Animal Welfare Act which is enforced by the United States Department of Agriculture. We submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the USDA for copies of the loans given to The Hunte Corporation. What we got back was a pile of papers that were mostly redacted. We have tried to put the pieces of the puzzle together from the information we were able to read. What it indicates is that Hunte has received at least 2 Rural Development Business and Industry Loans from the USDA. It appears that the company originally asked for 750k on July 5, 2000 but increased that amount to 2.8 million. That loan is due in 2020. Then in September 17, 2001 they received another loan for 900k which is due in 2008. They may have received earlier loans in 1996. According to the loan documents, these 3.5 million dollar loans were secured by accounts receivable and inventory. The papers say that in 2002 Hunte had 150 employees and 26 million dollars in sales. So the same agency that is charged with inspecting kennels and brokers is the same agency that underwrote 3.5 million dollars in loans to a business it inspects. How can this possibly be acceptable? The Hunte Corporation claims to sell quality puppies. __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte** Last edited by PlatinumYorkies; 03-31-2005 at 12:32 PM.

03-31-2005, 11:56 AM	#4
Passionfruition Proud of my Sully! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: beautiful CHARLESTON, S.C. Posts: 5,454	This is DEFINITELY not a "big business" broker like the one above, but I almost bought from a lady who dealt with the 'business' side for the breeder. However, all questions I had for the breeder, she could not answer and wouldn't let me talk directly to the breeder. (I thought this was shady & I found my puppy elsewhere!!!) __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - I love my Sully (the Wonderdog!)

03-31-2005, 12:00 PM	#5
tinybaby Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 11	Brokers So if a breeder on website sells different kinds of dogs -- or even just one breed ----Like the woman who I want to buy a puppy from she does not breed them -- she get them from a company then sells them on her web site & makes % of the sale of the dog..hummmm ---

03-31-2005, 01:15 PM	#7
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	I think DivaPup.com would be considered a Puppy Broker as well.

03-31-2005, 01:39 PM	#8
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	http://www.yorkiesandmore.com/aboutus.htm I THINK THIS COMPANY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF A BROKER!!!!!!!!! __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte**

03-31-2005, 03:18 PM	#9
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Diva Divapup was open in her statement that they buy from breeders and resell. They admit to being a broker.

03-31-2005, 03:48 PM	#10
Luvmypupster YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: tx Posts: 624	There are also lots of small scale broker. The Dallas / Fort Worth newspapers are full of people selling pups that are in fact brokers. __________________ Emme & Faith R.I.P. Mia & Bentley

03-31-2005, 07:56 PM	#11
mojo Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Here, there Posts: 2,693	I went to that broker website and my question is he is showing shipping as $50-$75. Most other people charge $200-300 for shipping. I realize they need a crate and vet clearance, but come on, whats with the price difference!

03-31-2005, 08:08 PM	#12
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	There also isn't a price of his puppies either __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte**