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echo8287 · 02-20-2008, 11:10 PM

I know how Yorkie owners love their babies, as my daughter has one. I have asked this question before several months ago. It is getting close to time to have my 2 Mini Schnauzers spayed. I want to find a vet that is good to do the minimal invasive procedure on the 2 Mini's. I am trying to find one that will do just an ovarectomy not a ovarhystorectomy. I cannot find any vet in the South that does this procedure. I live near Atlanta. All of the vets I find that are doing it are in Texas, Colorado,NY,Baltimore,Indiana,Ohio,California,Virg inia,and New Jersey. Oddly many of them are trained at UGA in Athens Ga. I am looking for a vet in the Southern states within driving distance. If anyone has had this procedure done on their puppy, please post the location, vet's name, and maybe cost. Thanks for any help. David

kalina82 · 02-21-2008, 03:17 PM

i'd have the total OHE done. If you don't take out the uterus she can still develop uterine cancer. its old school to leave the uterus in and only take the ovaries out.

echo8287 · 02-23-2008, 11:30 PM

They are changing that way of thought. In Europe they usually do a ovariectomy and that is changing here in the USA. With the ovaries gone, the hormones are gone and the chances of getting cancer of the uterus is gone too. This info was in several of the medical pieces and studies done, I have searched for on the internet in the past several months. The ovariectomy is a lot less strenuous on the dog too and may help in urinary incontinence. Thanks, David

echo8287 · 02-24-2008, 01:29 AM

I found one of the articles on the comparision of both methods>>>
From the Department of Clinical Sciences of Companion Animals, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, Utrecht University, Utrecht, The Netherlands

Objective—To determine if ovariectomy (OVE) is a safe alternative to ovariohysterectomy (OVH) for canine gonadectomy.

Study Design—Literature review.

Methods—An on-line bibliographic search in MEDLINE and PubMed was performed in December 2004, covering the period 1969–2004. Relevant studies were compared and evaluated with regard to study design, surgical technique, and both short-term and long-term follow-up.

Conclusions—OVH is technically more complicated, time consuming, and is probably associated with greater morbidity (larger incision, more intraoperative trauma, increased discomfort) compared with OVE. No significant differences between techniques were observed for incidence of long-term urogenital problems, including endometritis/pyometra and urinary incontinence, making OVE the preferred method of gonadectomy in the healthy bitch.

Clinical Relevance—Canine OVE can replace OVH as the procedure of choice for routine neutering of healthy female dogs.

Ellie May · 02-24-2008, 08:50 PM

Wouldn't leaving the uterus not eliminate the chances of pyometra?

echo8287 · 02-25-2008, 12:07 AM

If the hormones aren't present the chances of pyometra are very rare.
Here is a quote>"Pyometra. Meaning "pus in the uterus," pyometra is a common disease of intact bitches, usually affecting individuals over six years of age. This condition develops as a result of the influence of progesterone on the uterus during diestrus. Progesterone promotes growth of the endometrium (the lining of the uterus), and secretion of uterine glands. These secretions provide a me-dium for bacterial growth. In addition, progesterone inhibits the infection-fighting activities of uterine white blood cells.

02-20-2008, 11:10 PM	#1
echo8287 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ga Posts: 27	Minimal invasive spay surgery? I know how Yorkie owners love their babies, as my daughter has one. I have asked this question before several months ago. It is getting close to time to have my 2 Mini Schnauzers spayed. I want to find a vet that is good to do the minimal invasive procedure on the 2 Mini's. I am trying to find one that will do just an ovarectomy not a ovarhystorectomy. I cannot find any vet in the South that does this procedure. I live near Atlanta. All of the vets I find that are doing it are in Texas, Colorado,NY,Baltimore,Indiana,Ohio,California,Virg inia,and New Jersey. Oddly many of them are trained at UGA in Athens Ga. I am looking for a vet in the Southern states within driving distance. If anyone has had this procedure done on their puppy, please post the location, vet's name, and maybe cost. Thanks for any help. David

02-21-2008, 03:17 PM	#2
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	i'd have the total OHE done. If you don't take out the uterus she can still develop uterine cancer. its old school to leave the uterus in and only take the ovaries out. __________________ Kellie and Morgan

02-24-2008, 08:50 PM	#5
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Wouldn't leaving the uterus not eliminate the chances of pyometra? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

02-23-2008, 11:30 PM	#3
echo8287 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ga Posts: 27	They are changing that way of thought. In Europe they usually do a ovariectomy and that is changing here in the USA. With the ovaries gone, the hormones are gone and the chances of getting cancer of the uterus is gone too. This info was in several of the medical pieces and studies done, I have searched for on the internet in the past several months. The ovariectomy is a lot less strenuous on the dog too and may help in urinary incontinence. Thanks, David

02-24-2008, 01:29 AM	#4
echo8287 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ga Posts: 27	I found one of the articles on the comparision of both methods>>> From the Department of Clinical Sciences of Companion Animals, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, Utrecht University, Utrecht, The Netherlands Objective—To determine if ovariectomy (OVE) is a safe alternative to ovariohysterectomy (OVH) for canine gonadectomy. Study Design—Literature review. Methods—An on-line bibliographic search in MEDLINE and PubMed was performed in December 2004, covering the period 1969–2004. Relevant studies were compared and evaluated with regard to study design, surgical technique, and both short-term and long-term follow-up. Conclusions—OVH is technically more complicated, time consuming, and is probably associated with greater morbidity (larger incision, more intraoperative trauma, increased discomfort) compared with OVE. No significant differences between techniques were observed for incidence of long-term urogenital problems, including endometritis/pyometra and urinary incontinence, making OVE the preferred method of gonadectomy in the healthy bitch. Clinical Relevance—Canine OVE can replace OVH as the procedure of choice for routine neutering of healthy female dogs.

02-25-2008, 12:07 AM	#6
echo8287 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ga Posts: 27	If the hormones aren't present the chances of pyometra are very rare. Here is a quote>"Pyometra. Meaning "pus in the uterus," pyometra is a common disease of intact bitches, usually affecting individuals over six years of age. This condition develops as a result of the influence of progesterone on the uterus during diestrus. Progesterone promotes growth of the endometrium (the lining of the uterus), and secretion of uterine glands. These secretions provide a me-dium for bacterial growth. In addition, progesterone inhibits the infection-fighting activities of uterine white blood cells.