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Boopster500 04-04-2012 05:24 PM

I don't know where to post this Help needed
 
This is from a Friend of mine I came home from work and saw his post maybe someone could help him out.


My neighbors Yorkie Pup ran out in the street under my truck. The back tire hit the pup and killed it. The kids were in the yard and saw it. I stopped apologized and felt horrible. I went to the store and went back and apologized to the kids and hugged their necks. Looking for a Yorkie pup to take to these kids as a gift. e so much appreciated.
Phone: PEACE 832 885 8410 Houston area

Teresa Ford 04-04-2012 05:53 PM

I feel awful for your friend and the family that lost their pet. I suggest your friend say he is sorry. The dog ran out into the street and was hit. Another replacement pet may suffer the same fate. Giving them money or another pup is not always a good idea.
I too have accidently hit a dog. I offered money so they could buy another dog, I felt horrible. They took $500 to replace the little Doxie/Begal mix. It helped my guilt.

My daughter inlaw (is a lawyer) said I should not have given them money. That it was their neglect that caused the dogs death. I scolded her (she is not a doggy person) said she didn't understand what it was like to lose a beloved pet.

Two weeks later, their new dog got hit by a car too.

Yorkiemom1 04-04-2012 05:56 PM

Try looking at a rescue for a Yorkie pup that needs a loving home. You dont want to go to a pet shop for puppies....they are puppy mill babies. However, I would be afraid the children would let the new baby out into the street also....

KazzyK810 04-04-2012 06:02 PM

I agree with Teresa.

It's the dog owners responsibility to protect the pup, not the guy driving in the street. If the owners were irresponsible with one puppy, they may be with the next. While I understand accidents happen, the driver in the street isn't at fault and shouldn't have to replace a pup. I understand how bad he feels, as I'd initially be devasted to if I injured anyone's pet....but then...I'd be angry that I was in that position due to someone's negligence.

ladyjane 04-04-2012 06:10 PM

I agree with Teresa and would never place one of my pups in that home. :( Ohhhh I misread it. But, there is no way I would take that family another pup. Why was it outside with children and no fence??? Tell him to say he is sorry. It is NOT his fault. I realize how awful he must feel....I would be devastated

Boopster500 04-04-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 3872470)
I feel awful for your friend and the family that lost their pet. I suggest your friend say he is sorry. The dog ran out into the street and was hit. Another replacement pet may suffer the same fate. Giving them money or another pup is not always a good idea.
I too have accidently hit a dog. I offered money so they could buy another dog, I felt horrible. They took $500 to replace the little Doxie/Begal mix. It helped my guilt.

My daughter inlaw (is a lawyer) said I should not have given them money. That it was their neglect that caused the dogs death. I scolded her (she is not a doggy person) said she didn't understand what it was like to lose a beloved pet.

Two weeks later, their new dog got hit by a car too.

My husband said the same thing you are all saying my friend Richard is very upset because the kids saw it he went back and apologized. he just dose not know what to do. would it be ok if i sent him this thread so he can hear from you.

Boopster500 04-04-2012 06:43 PM

This is what he said...

No. the people are responsible pet owners. Their kid took the dog out to pee and another kid came to visit and left the gate open.

dawn27 04-04-2012 06:46 PM

What a sad thing to have happened and for the kids to have seen it. They must be devastated as would anyone in this situation.

I can totally understand how you would feel responsibility but this was not your fault. I can also understand you wanting to make it right by purchasing a new pup for them. I think that you need to let the family deal with the loss of this pup and when the time is right for them. Let them make the decision whether to get another pup.

You are not the one who let the pup out of the house and you have to understand that this was nothing more than a horrible, horrible accident that could have been prevented if the pup had been no a leash.

This was not your fault!

Glorious Day 04-04-2012 06:52 PM

It is a devastating situation but I agree with the majority. That little angel should of been on a leash or supervised by an adult!

Boopster500 04-04-2012 07:15 PM

From what Richard said dog was in backyard and one of the kids friends visiting left the gate open:(

dawn27 04-04-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boopster500 (Post 3872574)
From what Richard said dog was in backyard and one of the kids friends visiting left the gate open:(

I have had that happen also. I'm thankful that my dogs do not wonder off to far from home. Still this was not your fault. It happend and it is a very sad thing for everyone involved but I dont think that you should guilt yourself into paying for a new puppy for them. Maybe you could offer some form of payment toward a new pup if and when they do decide to get another one.

Millies mamma 04-04-2012 08:43 PM

I know how your friend must feel. i would feel terrible. I agree with the last poster i would ask the parents if they would like for you to help them replace the dog. i defently wouldn't just show up with one without talking to the parents first.

nanahas3 04-04-2012 09:11 PM

Tell your friend to turn it in on his car insurance. When we were younger a kid ran over and killed our little pom who had dashed from the house and the young mans insurance gave us back what we had paid for her so we were able to get another one later. They are good about replacing registered dogs.

Mom to Hot Rod 04-04-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3872535)
What a sad thing to have happened and for the kids to have seen it. They must be devastated as would anyone in this situation.

I can totally understand how you would feel responsibility but this was not your fault. I can also understand you wanting to make it right by purchasing a new pup for them. I think that you need to let the family deal with the loss of this pup and when the time is right for them. Let them make the decision whether to get another pup.

You are not the one who let the pup out of the house and you have to understand that this was nothing more than a horrible, horrible accident that could have been prevented if the pup had been no a leash.

This was not your fault!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3872618)
I have had that happen also. I'm thankful that my dogs do not wonder off to far from home. Still this was not your fault. It happend and it is a very sad thing for everyone involved but I dont think that you should guilt yourself into paying for a new puppy for them. Maybe you could offer some form of payment toward a new pup if and when they do decide to get another one.

This happened to the op's friend, not the op.

I would have to agree with the overall sentiment. It wasn't your friends fault but I would be so guilt ridden if it were me. As horrible and sad as it is, the children will have learned a very valuable lessen from this that they cannot for a moment take their attention away from the responsibility of caring for a live being. I am so very sorry that the children had to witness this.

MommytoMiles 04-04-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 3872470)
I feel awful for your friend and the family that lost their pet. I suggest your friend say he is sorry. The dog ran out into the street and was hit. Another replacement pet may suffer the same fate. Giving them money or another pup is not always a good idea.
I too have accidently hit a dog. I offered money so they could buy another dog, I felt horrible. They took $500 to replace the little Doxie/Begal mix. It helped my guilt.

My daughter inlaw (is a lawyer) said I should not have given them money. That it was their neglect that caused the dogs death. I scolded her (she is not a doggy person) said she didn't understand what it was like to lose a beloved pet.

Two weeks later, their new dog got hit by a car too.

WOW!!! Talk about Karma!! However; your daughter-in-law is correct!!! The kids / parents were neglectful with the poor doggie and it is not the OP's fault. Although, she may feel terrible / responsible, she should not spend her unemployment $$$ on a new dog for them. Also, she would be sending a message that she was at fault as well as enabling their neglectful behavior. If this were to go to court, they would loose BIG TIME!! Painful Lessen learned for them, I hope, for their sake and their next pet.

MommytoMiles 04-04-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boopster500 (Post 3872574)
From what Richard said dog was in backyard and one of the kids friends visiting left the gate open:(

Hmmmmm..... I am grateful for the four legged child!!!

MommytoMiles 04-04-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3872491)
i agree with teresa and would never place one of my pups in that home. :( ohhhh i misread it. But, there is no way i would take that family another pup. Why was it outside with children and no fence??? Tell him to say he is sorry. It is not his fault. I realize how awful he must feel....i would be devastated

yup!!

gracielove 04-05-2012 06:05 AM

I certainly understand how awful your friend must feel. However, the owner of the dog are also responsible for what happened. Accidents happen but a responsible dog owner is supposed to have their dog under control at all times. It is not your friend"s fault that this little dog was not being properly restrained from running in the road and getting hurt. Your friend cannot afford to buy a new puppy for this family and I feel that him replacing the dog would not add value to the pet. If they have to go out and pay for a new dog perhaps they will be more careful about making sure it is never allowed to run loose and able to get in the road. The road is for cars and not dogs. Your friend was where he was supposed to be and the dog was not. As I said I understand that accidents do happen. We cannot control everything that happens in life but your friend was a victim of circumstances and needs to come to terms with that.

maggiefromnj 04-05-2012 06:26 AM

How is the OP "donating senior member" when he just joined March 24, 2012? Is senior his age, or how long he has been on YT?

I am very skeptical of his post. I hope nobody gives him donations or anything unless his story is verified.

Could be that I'm wrong, I just wanted to post my initial reaction to the post.

kamax60 04-05-2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maggiefromnj (Post 3872821)
How is the OP "donating senior member" when he just joined March 24, 2012? Is senior his age, or how long he has been on YT?

I am very skeptical of his post. I hope nobody gives him donations or anything unless his story is verified.

Could be that I'm wrong, I just wanted to post my initial reaction to the post.

First - I don't believe the OP was asking for donations.
Second - when I donated to YT, I immediately became a "Donating Senior Member" (Senior in this case would be more privileges/benefits, not age or length of membership) . My guess is that is the same situation here.

maggiefromnj 04-05-2012 07:43 AM

asking would be too obvious, and isn't it against the rules? The nature of people on this board is too help out, so a direct ask might not be necessary. I just thought it was a weird post because TO ME it didn't come across as a warning to be careful, as much as a "my poor friend needs help" post.

I could be wrong, and if I am I certainly apologize. If nothing else the story itself should be a caution. My little girl cries like she is being tortured when she sees her daddy's car pull up at the stop sign in front of our house. I do not let her out the door until I see him stopped in the driveway. I don't even crack it open because she might squirt out the crack. Has to be terrible thing to run over your pet. Actually, come to think of it, I think my brother did it years ago. His dog had gotten old and was sleeping behind the truck. I guess he usually had gotten up when Bill came out, or maybe he never usually laid there, and probably his hearing was going or something. It was sad for my brother, he lives alone with his numerous pets and this was one of his first.

DBlain 04-05-2012 07:45 AM

agree with the others here as well, nothing is owed because it is not your friends fault. I have two stories here that sort of apply.

I lived in the same sub as a young family with a small duschaund and it was always in the street, I brought it back up to their front door several times and was quite verbal about telling them what might happen, the poor dog was finally killed by a car:(, so what did they do, get another dog, 6 months later same thing happened :mad:Not saying that would be the case but your never know especially with young kids that are constantly in an out of the house and backyard, it is so easy for a dog to get out.

I was 19 and sent out to pick up Chinese food for the whole family. I was almost home and had several bags of the food on the front seat. There was a group of people hanging out by the curb in front of a house down the street from us, there were several cars parked there as well. Because there were so many people I started to slow down and just before I passed them, a large lab type dog ran in front of my car, I hit the breaks and swerved but still clipped the paw of the dog. The bags with food like shrimp with lobster sauce and wonton soup went flying all over the front seat. What a mess especially since the car had cloth seats, just about all the food was ruined and my mom and I had to spend hours trying to scrub the car clean and it took months for the smell to go away. I heard that they thought we should have paid the vet bill, so I visited them with the food bill and told them if they wanted to pay for that as well as a steam cleaning of the car interior I would pay their vet bill or we could just call it even and they could agree to leash their dog when on the side of the street. Most people do not want to hit a dog and will often damage their own car, or spill their Chinese take out:D just to avoid doing so, but if you do it does not mean you are the one to pay, it means NO matter what the excuse is the owner of the dog was not being responsible. Paying for a new dog will not make the kids forget anyway.

maggiefromnj 04-05-2012 08:20 AM

DBlain...good stories and I like how you handle the second one. Another lesson to be learned here is to strap in your food and packages so they don't go flying!

I originally bought one of those car seats for maggie that hang from the headrest. We decided that hanging made her feel unstable and it wasn't firm enough for her to put her paws up and look out, so we got her a snoozer which she likes much better. I keep meaning to put the hanging one back in my car because a few times when it was there (without Maggie!) I stuck my purse in it. It was nice to have my purse fly off the seat if I stopped fast. It will be my "stuff holder" now.

nanahas3 04-05-2012 10:39 AM

Ok I guess this places me in the bad pet owner catagory :(. The little pom I referred to in my other post was my baby. We had some young men stop for water for their car. I was in the other room and she dashed out the door without my teenager noticing. When I came back in the room looking for her a few minutes later we were all in a panic as we lived on a busy street. We ran out the door seconds later only to find her laying dead on the side of the road :(. These things do happen to responsible owners. I would never ever put my babies in harms way. She like the one the op hit was a young puppy and we were working on her training. It does happen.

gemy 04-05-2012 11:06 AM

Charlene all of us make mistakes, and sometimes bad things happen. It happened to me last wk. Went to vet with Zoey, left Razz and Magic free in the house(they are usually crated if I am not home), thought I'd be home before my sister, well she got home a tad early; and what do I see as I drive up but...

Magic our big boy off lead, trying to say hi to the neighbour and his dog, with Judy standing by waving her hands around, and the neighbours wife had picked up Razzle, then when I shouted what is going on here! She let Razzle go, traffic was going by and I was very lucky he ran straight to me and not out into the traffic. I was also lucky that Magic is not aggressive---however it was a dangerous situation; that luckily had a happy ending.

marlenemaria 04-05-2012 11:17 AM

What a horrible and sad situation to have happen.

After my sincerest apologies to the children and the family I would ask what I can possibly do to make things right.

Regardless of whose fault it is, it happened and it's a tragedy. I would want to try and make things better in some way. :(

How so very sad.

Wylie's Mom 04-05-2012 12:14 PM

Hi :). Just wanted to post this general rule for you. Good luck w/ your search!

"We do not allow threads begging for free puppies or looking for puppies at extreme reduced costs. Yorkies are generally from $500 on up, with most being in the $1000 to $1500 range. Please do not post looking for Yorkies below $500. If your budget for a Yorkie does not allow for $500 or more, you may want to look into Yorkie rescues or adoptions of older Yorkies, as they may be better suited to your price range. Feel free to PM sellers with an offer, but the public forum doesn't allow asking for yorkies less than $500."

MommytoMiles 04-05-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3873075)
Hi :). Just wanted to post this general rule for you. Good luck w/ your search!

"We do not allow threads begging for free puppies or looking for puppies at extreme reduced costs. Yorkies are generally from $500 on up, with most being in the $1000 to $1500 range. Please do not post looking for Yorkies below $500. If your budget for a Yorkie does not allow for $500 or more, you may want to look into Yorkie rescues or adoptions of older Yorkies, as they may be better suited to your price range. Feel free to PM sellers with an offer, but the public forum doesn't allow asking for yorkies less than $500."

Even the rescue orgs cost over $500.00 depending on the pup!! I am in the NYC tri-state area maybe that's why.


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