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delicatepuzzle 05-13-2009 08:44 PM
Biro Biewer ... what is it?
 
This has been posted in a breeder discussion area also.

What is a Biro Biewer? Is it a biewer variation on the chocolate yorkie? Do these pups have show potential? Is there a standard?

PLEASE post pictures of yours if you have one. I looked on google and found nothing really. I did find one named Chawka Girl. Is she standard? I tried looking on some german sites but that was near impossible due to the confusion of translating etc. What a mess LOL.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts, shared knowledge, questions, discussions.

Thank you :aimeeyork

Coolafancy Zoe 05-14-2009 08:29 AM
I went and did a search on it and found out "Biro" means chocolate.
Here is where I found it...
Biewer Yorkie

I am not sure if there is a standard or if they can be shown.

phfgkl 05-14-2009 08:39 AM
The original biro had Shih Tzu mixed in it. Other biro lines had Chihuahua
biro stands for 2 different peoples initials.

rtsmichele 05-14-2009 08:53 AM
You can see some pics and read some info here:

Biewer Yorkie

Page Title

WHAT MAKES IT A BIEWER YORKIE

Google Translate

delicatepuzzle 05-14-2009 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2622261)
The original biro had Shih Tzu mixed in it. Other biro lines had Chihuahua
biro stands for 2 different peoples initials.
So do Biro biewers, are they not realy biewers? I'm getting a little girl (or atleast I'm trying to and its TAKING FOREVER to work out a deal). Is she not pure biewer? Her mom and dad and sisters are all normal colors. Both parents are imports (not to say that german breeders don't mix their litters but ... I know americans are huge in Designer Breeds).

bchgirl 05-14-2009 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delicatepuzzle (Post 2621739)
This has been posted in a breeder discussion area also.

What is a Biro Biewer? Is it a biewer variation on the chocolate yorkie? Do these pups have show potential? Is there a standard?

PLEASE post pictures of yours if you have one. I looked on google and found nothing really. I did find one named Chawka Girl. Is she standard? I tried looking on some german sites but that was near impossible due to the confusion of translating etc. What a mess LOL.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts, shared knowledge, questions, discussions.

Thank you :aimeeyork
A biewer with chocolate markings. Biro's have brown noses and rims of their eyes...those are considered faults in every biewer standard. So no, they aren't "show" potential.

Whether or not biro or standard biewers are mixes depends on the club you ask.

delicatepuzzle 05-14-2009 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2622334)
A biewer with chocolate markings. Biro's have brown noses and rims of their eyes...those are considered faults in every biewer standard. So no, they aren't "show" potential.

Whether or not biro or standard biewers are mixes depends on the club you ask.
So she should not be bred? Do you know what a good asking price is for a Biro is then as a pet? Thanks BCHGIRL you are always so helpful.

phfgkl 05-14-2009 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delicatepuzzle (Post 2622301)
So do Biro biewers, are they not realy biewers? I'm getting a little girl (or atleast I'm trying to and its TAKING FOREVER to work out a deal). Is she not pure biewer? Her mom and dad and sisters are all normal colors. Both parents are imports (not to say that german breeders don't mix their litters but ... I know americans are huge in Designer Breeds).
the biewer terriers have other breeds in them. from dna testings. there has been papillons, maltese, yorkies, shih tzu etc etc. The biro has more of the shih tzu and chihuahuas in them. The biro, as I said, stand for initials. They will have the liver colored noses, etc. I would not ever breed one myself, and probably would not pay over $1500-$2000 for one. I think it's good to have dna testing done on them too.

bchgirl 05-14-2009 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delicatepuzzle (Post 2622368)
So she should not be bred? Do you know what a good asking price is for a Biro is then as a pet? Thanks BCHGIRL you are always so helpful.
Most don't advise breeding dogs with color faults.

Pet pricing for female biewers varies a great deal. I've seen pricing vary from 2500 all the way up to 4200.

phfgkl 05-14-2009 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2622390)
Most don't advise breeding dogs with color faults.

Pet pricing for female biewers varies a great deal. I've seen pricing vary from 2500 all the way up to 4200.
I would never pay that kind of money for a color faulted pup myself

delicatepuzzle 05-14-2009 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2622477)
I would never pay that kind of money for a color faulted pup myself
If you don't mind me asking ...How much did you pay for your biewer? Or is she/he a parti?

phfgkl 05-15-2009 05:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by delicatepuzzle (Post 2623242)
If you don't mind me asking ...How much did you pay for your biewer? Or is she/he a parti?
I will pm you that information

wowo58 08-15-2014 07:18 AM
Biro Yorkie
 
A few weeks ago I decided I was once again ready for a dog. I hadn't had one in 8 years. And Until 2 weeks ago I had no idea what a Brio Biewer Yorkie was. I got a Brio Biewer that was a rescue. She had a recessed chin and extra so the breeder did not want her. She basically left her in a kennel so I suspect the dog came from a puppy mill.
What I can tell you from my experience (and this is a dog that was neglected). She is sweet, loving, stubborn, finicky and knows how to get her way. She is beautiful, even with the recessed chin. She has no idea how small she is and would take on the world to protect me. Would I pay 1500 to 2000 for a Brio Biewer, no but I wouldn't pay that for any dog. I don't mean to insult anyone but when dog breeds are mixed they are no longer pure breed. I don't care if they are called designer dogs or not. I realize its done to try to breed in the good traits of each breed but it also can breed in the unwanted traits. My dog is really sweet, she has some issues but I don't know if that is a trait from breeding or the environment she came from. I love her and do not regret my decision to get her.

bd1976 07-26-2015 10:15 AM
biro yorkie
 
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my biro boy has been dna tested he is pure breed yorkie from the breeder from the elbe lowlands

bd1976 07-26-2015 10:38 AM
biro yorkie
 
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the biro is a parti color chocolate yorkie

bd1976 07-26-2015 10:41 AM
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my biro dna tested pure bred yorkie

DAB 07-27-2015 07:11 PM
Not sure - just heard about these and Parti Yorkies on FB's Crazy Yorky's Ladies. I looked up AKC Yorkshire Terrier standards and googled these Parti Yorkies those Biewers. Someone who shows Yorkies stated that these Yorkies are nothing more than mix breeds or not to standard so are pets only. The site also mentioned that people are charging outrageous prices for these designer dogs. Why? They are not accepted in a show ring. They do make cute pets tough. That's about it.

gemy 07-30-2015 04:04 PM
My understanding is that there is no currently available DNA test for individual breed of dogs. You can prove parentage through DNA testing and some other DNA specific tests for certain genetic diseases - such as PRA and CDA Color Dilution Alopecia. But not for the exact breed of the dog.

gemy 07-30-2015 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd1976 (Post 4578641)
my biro dna tested pure bred yorkie

What ever you attached did not open.

scrapindee 07-31-2015 02:52 PM
Biewers have a standard. They are not designer dogs. I have been breeding Biewer to Biewer for 10.5 years.

Biewers show in the Rare Breed Show Venues: IABCA, ICKC, ARBA.

bd1976 07-31-2015 03:54 PM
my biro is pedigree i had DNA tested pure breed

gemy 07-31-2015 08:35 PM
There is no DNA test that defines a purebred dog. Only DNA parentage tests are reliable.

bd1976 08-04-2015 05:29 AM
Dna
 
Mine has dna biro boy level one yorkie

magicgenie 08-07-2015 06:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4579952)
My understanding is that there is no currently available DNA test for individual breed of dogs. You can prove parentage through DNA testing and some other DNA specific tests for certain genetic diseases - such as PRA and CDA Color Dilution Alopecia. But not for the exact breed of the dog.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...99804247,d.eXY
I'm trying to post a link to a company that claims to be able to identify breed through DNA testing. I've had the impression for some time now that this was possible.

SirTeddykins 08-08-2015 12:46 AM
Q: Can the test prove that my dog is purebred?


A. If you think your dog is one or two specific breeds, you can indicate this during the kit online activation and the DNA sample will be analyzed with entire breed database along with a profile comparison of the specific breed(s) you select. However, the breed test is not designed to be used in court to solve disputes over breed purity.


I can say, without a doubt, that these DNA tests cannot determine purebred status and this is why they have the disclaimer (and rightly so) re: court disputes. They are not accurate and are not intended to be so in the way that is under discussion here. They are only reliable as far as parentage just like human DNA tests which are designed to test the same thing.

I hope that helps.

bd1976 08-08-2015 02:49 AM
biro
 
biro is chocolate and white version of the biewer yorkie

Elliern 12-26-2020 07:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4580377)
There is no DNA test that defines a purebred dog. Only DNA parentage tests are reliable.
I just know that our vet offered to do a dna test on our yorkie and also suggested a brand she thought was accurate that we could do ourselves to save money.

matese 12-26-2020 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Elliern (Post 4819187)
I just know that our vet offered to do a dna test on our yorkie and also suggested a brand she thought was accurate that we could do ourselves to save money.
DNA
Wisdom Panel is a do it yourself


www.WisdomPanel.com

but a blood test by your vet may be more expensive but more accurate then a DIY.


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