thank you Donna

Hold on to him. I am holding onto my Crosswindss dogs.

Someone just lost their dogs in the fire. It is beyond sad. It's insensitive for you to judge the price of her show dogs. Please be sensitive and compassionate instead of talking about her prices.

What a devastating loss. I can't even imagine. That poor, poor lady, and to think of how those poor yorkies passed. :( I am sick to my stomach thinking about it. I hope the rest can be saved.

As I was reading this thread, I was thinking exactly the same. Also, had we known just how we would feel about Toto, we would have paid anything that our breeder asked for her. Please bear in mind, this is only our feeling .... I cannot even imagine the agony this poor lady is going through.

I just start to cry when I think about what Colleen and her babies have gone through. Tragedy can strike in a split second. You can't always be there 24 hours a day. Whether you lose one dog or 40 dogs, whether they are just pets or show dogs, it does not matter, it is a tragedy. All the insurance money in the world cannot replace a beloved pet. My prayers go out to Colleen and the surviving babies.

God speed to the remaining precious creatures and prayers are with the remaining yorkies.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

No problem hon!

Donna

Crazy
 

You know when I read about this breeder on another forum, I was heart sick. Then I come here, and read some pretty insensitive comments about the cost of her Yorkies. Who the heck cares! And that for whatever reason she did not have insurance. Who cares! Is that supposed to make her deserving of this NIGHTMARE? Come on now, I definately am NOT one to sit and pass judgement on why or why not she had insurance....I am sure if she could go back in time, she would have confirmed that it was paid.

She is a HUMAN, and she is also ONE OF US! She loves her yorkies, just like you or me.

What we all should be thinking is.........what can I do to help? Lets, all think of "if this happened to me" what would I do? I would hope my Yorkie friends would surround me with love and concern, and whatever else they could do to help.



Anyone know of any form of donations going on????

Those that know her, please pass on my condolences.


Shirley

This really is just so sad and devastating. I don't even know what to say and I cannot even imagine such a huge tragedy. :cry: 26 babies lost their lives.... my Lord..... this is just unimaginable.. :cry:

this is just horrible thing to have happened, I can't imagine what they are going through.

Back to the subject of insurance---
 

I too am very sad to hear about this fire and the snide comments, from people who have no idea the amount of work that went into creating Crosswinds. I can probably clarify some of the questions about insurance, or lack thereof, or pick up some advice from those of you who know about these things. I have a good number of dogs in residence right now--not nearly what Crosswinds had, but enough that even in a fairly well organized setting with people present it would still be one heck of a job getting them all out in a fire. My home and contents are insured, but not the dogs. It's been my fear that insurance companies don't like homeowners to even own dogs, let alone breed them. Questions about insurance will raise questions about liability for a home based business with clients coming to see puppies. Fear of getting tangled up in a beaurocratic nightmare causes me to "self insure" where the dogs are concerned.

Heartbreaking story, a tragic loss of her dogs and livelihood. Hopefully the spared dogs are all ok, and the owner can begin to make her way back from this horrific event

A few thoughts on some of the sidebar commentary. A friend of mine breeds beagles and his dogs are recognized field champions. He was approached by a Japanese buyer who was willing to pay a significant sum for one of his pups. He did go through with the transaction and shipped the pup abroad. It is a statement about her dogs and reputation that she was able to attract those kinds of fees for her dogs. She deserves a lot of credit for that, and the exact prices really are not anyone's business but the buyer and seller

On the insurance topic, I happen to work in the industry - my firm does merger and acquisition transactions for insurance industry companies and while I do not sell insurance, I maintain insurance licenses. Any breeding facility of this magnitude would never be covered under a typical personal, homeowners policy. It is a commercial exposure that requires a commercial (or business policy) - the risks involved include dedicated structures, the liability of customers coming onto the property, the dogs themselves, all of the business equipment, I can go on and on. I can not comment on the cost of such a policy (it is likely less than you assume it would be) but it does require a business | commercial policy, AND an agent that has familiarity with insuring breeding facilities to ensure you get the best carrier and pricing. Any personal homeowner policy will exclude all of these exposures and if there were a claim made, and the undisclosed business discovered, would likely be denied... If she was in fact not covered, that is a terrible shame but either way that would have only provided financial indemnification - and could not replace the precious lives of the lost animals.

For Crosswinds, It is a sad day to lose so many precious lives...........

I’m Still Here

Friend, please don't mourn for me
I'm still here, though you don't see.
I'm right by your side each night and day
and within your heart I long to stay.

My body is gone but I'm always near.
I'm everything you feel, see or hear.
My spirit is free, but I'll never depart
as long as you keep me alive in your heart.

I'll never wander out of your sight-
I'm the brightest star on a summer night.
I'll never be beyond your reach-
I'm the warm moist sand when you're at the beach.

I'm the colorful leaves when fall comes around
and the pure white snow that blankets the ground.
I'm the beautiful flowers of which you're so fond,
The clear cool water in a quiet pond.

I'm the first bright blossom you'll see in the spring,
The first warm raindrop that April will bring.
I'm the first ray of light when the sun starts to shine,
and you'll see that the face in the moon is mine.

When you start thinking there's no one to love you,
you can talk to me through the Lord above you.
I'll whisper my answer through the leaves on the trees,
and you'll feel my presence in the soft summer breeze.

I'm the hot salty tears that flow when you weep
and the beautiful dreams that come while you sleep.
I'm the smile you see on a baby's face.
Just look for me, friend, I'm everyplace!

This is soo very sad for this poor woman, and her beloved babies. I thought the name cross winds rung a bell, and I looked at my babies papers. My Chip has CrossWinds in his family. There was a Cross Winds Renegade, and some more Cross Winds names. I'm not really sure, but does that mean that he is related to these poor animals?

I never knew of a Crosswinds Renegade. my Crosswinds has Rothby's Rene-gade and my Renny was named Dee's Lil Mikki Moto Renegade after his ancesters. I would be interested to know wherew you got your Crosswinds puppy and who is the breeder.. But yes, to answer your questions if there is Crosswinds on your paper it is from the same line no matter how distant. if you don't want to post here please pm.

I just went to her site: Home and looked at her beautiful Yorkies! She also raises at least two other breeds but I just looked through the Yorkies. To think some of them may have been lost in the fire brought tears to my eyes! May they all R.I.P. whichever breed they may have been. My heart goes out to all concerned.

Nothing but yorkies for the last few years. The website has not been updated in a few years. it is so sad to look at those beautiful dogs and know they are no more.

I am looking at my Chips Pedigree right now. The Breeder I got him from is Anita Porter.
Chip's Sire is listed as BuckShot V, then it states his sire was Crosswinds Renegade BNB.
Then it states that CW Renegade's sire is CH Tea Time's Oro De Le Chaz, and the Dam is Crosswinds Brass N Blue. Are we talking about the same Crosswinds Yorkies?

On another note, I was looking at my Troubles Pedigree too, he came from MoonLight Kennels, and it states on his paperwork that back a few squares there is an AM & Can CH Rothby's Renee'Gade in his past. Is this the same Rothb's Reneegade that you have mentioned? I dont know alot about Pedigrees, forgive me if I sound Stupid.

I agree It makes me sick how quick ppl go straight to a negitive thought .. My heart and prayers go out to the family ..I know some alot of ppl who have been raising there breed for years and have there foundation stock 14 to 16 and any puppies they have had returned there number are high and care for them expesive and hello showing takes some CASH this is just a horrible thing to have happen and then to here all the negative things at a person lowest point in life .. nice human nature :( whats that saying kicking a person when there down ...

yes it is all the same. My Renegade has Tea Time's oro De Le Chaz, too and the Rothby's reneegade is the same you are talking about. nice pedigree.

Hey does that mean our babies are related? Your babies are beautiful!

Thank you. yes it does and you had better hold on to him. I am going to pm you my email and see if you can scan me your pedigree.

I didn't know
 

This the first time I hear about this horrible event happened to Colleen, I not know her personally but I have talk her many times on phone regarding her Yorkies. I not can begin know the hell she going through and pray I never do, I going to call her tommorow and see anything I do to help her in anyway.
That be said I want say that I shocked at response some of people who post this thread...
What give you right pass judgement someone because no insurance or because get big price one thier dogs? How many who make snide comments have insurance they dogs? How many know how much time work and expense go to breed and raise Yorkies and can honestly say have reputation like Colleen have?
I a breeder and love all my babies, no I not get big dollars my Yorkies but that no change how I care them or love them. I too from small town (only 300 people) and have also lived big cities so I know size of town not matter.
Maybe those who say such cruel things want judge me as well since I no insurance cover my babies.
Did ever dawn on those who running mouth about Colleen and situation she have at time that maybe things change and she having hard times?
Or maybe like other person stated, her book keeper made very bad mistake and not pay? Why this should make her bad person?
The bible say not judge others but what I read here many have done to Colleen and that wrong. There only One who have right to judge and He choose not do so and I know none of those making cruel statements not better that Him. You be ashamed yourselves, how you would like it someone do this you if you have horrible thing happen you?
Those who this uncaring and cruel need remember that what go around come around 10x's fold. None this about money as one person state, it a tragic accident that can happen any us any time. As for statement "This just show that breeders in for money" What JOKE! I not know about other breeders but between feed, care, supplies, vet expenses and long hours sleepless nights I honest say I not have yet seen profit...
I not expect see profit, that not why I want breed my Yorkies...
I do it because love breed so much and strive very hard improve with every litter born. I think person made this comment need do much home work on cost both physical and emotional.
All this be said I Pray none you ever have live such nightmare, and if it happen you may you not be surrounded people as fast pass judgement and words of pain as you have do here.

So true... Fore me, this dogs/pups costs more than that..
Just like people that we always say that each is a priceless thing..
Applicable to the dogs as well.. Some of them were priceless gems.

I am very sad to hear about this sad accident,poor sweet little dogs.

This was over 2 years ago. A very old thread.