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YorkieNewbie22 12-09-2007 11:12 PM
Recommendations?
 
I am looking for a highly recommened book on showing. I know the best way to really to learn is to get out there, but I dont currently have a dog to show yet and I like to read. SOOO I was hoping for some suggestions on books that give tips on showing, articles, or even websites.

Also videos too on handling? The rates for a handler are up there in price :eek:

OR I accept tips and advice on do's and donts in the show ring. :aimeeyork Any advice, experiences or suggestions is appreciated really lol. Thanks to anyone that can help.

Ladyhawk 12-10-2007 03:23 AM
The Winnig Edge by George Alston is good. He also holds seminars where he will work with you and a dog one on one. You can find the seminars listed on info dog when they come around. See if your local kennel club holds a handling class and ask if you can observe. Go to shows and watch, you can pick up great grooming and handling tips just from being observant.

YorkieRose 12-10-2007 04:10 AM
handling
 
I have gone to a few Alston seminars..very good.

Mardelin 12-10-2007 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1594910)
I have gone to a few Alston seminars..very good.
He also has one online.....I think you can find it on the IAMS website...runs about 90 minutes

YorkieNewbie22 12-10-2007 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1594886)
The Winnig Edge by George Alston is good. He also holds seminars where he will work with you and a dog one on one. You can find the seminars listed on info dog when they come around. See if your local kennel club holds a handling class and ask if you can observe. Go to shows and watch, you can pick up great grooming and handling tips just from being observant.
Thank you LadyHawk, I will check this out!

tegamom1 12-10-2007 04:53 PM
I just saw a new video, think it's called something like Best In Show, Training and Handling of the Yorkshire Terrier. SweetyBlue web site has lots of informational videos on grooming, showing, the NY Specialty, etc. Give this site a look. http://www.sweetyblue.com/

YorkieNewbie22 12-10-2007 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1595114)
He also has one online.....I think you can find it on the IAMS website...runs about 90 minutes

Thank you, I will also check this out!

Yelena 12-10-2007 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1596936)
I just saw a new video, think it's called something like Best In Show, Training and Handling of the Yorkshire Terrier. SweetyBlue web site has lots of informational videos on grooming, showing, the NY Specialty, etc. Give this site a look. http://www.sweetyblue.com/
I only have this 3 Educational videos http://www.yorkyclub.com/EN/Products.asp?cat=11
I love it!
But I haven't see any others.

Yorkiekids 12-11-2007 09:31 AM
Are you hoping on showing someday? I think it would be great, but I'd want to do it myself, because I'd miss my babies too much. I think the idea of you going to as many shows as you can is a really good idea.

YorkieNewbie22 12-11-2007 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiekids (Post 1598696)
Are you hoping on showing someday? I think it would be great, but I'd want to do it myself, because I'd miss my babies too much. I think the idea of you going to as many shows as you can is a really good idea.
I def plan to show someday, I am just trying to get as much info as I can and learn as much as I can. I too would much rather show my dogs myself, I wouldnt feel as accomplished if I had someone else did it. There are some more shows coming up, in the begining of Jan, that my husband and I are going to attend. :)

Mardelin 12-11-2007 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieNewbie22 (Post 1598843)
I def plan to show someday, I am just trying to get as much info as I can and learn as much as I can. I too would much rather show my dogs myself, I wouldnt feel as accomplished if I had someone else did it. There are some more shows coming up, in the begining of Jan, that my husband and I are going to attend. :)
Sorry I missed you this last weekend...as you know I couldn't show my girl because the Major broke....unsportsman like conduct if I'd have showed her and taken the points from someone that needed them....

Hope to see you in January, that is if there is a Major and it doesn't break

iluvmyyorkie 12-11-2007 10:23 AM
Hi , i'm new to this web site. I have a 4 mo. old Yorkie baby. I have so many questions from the best food to bathing. HELP! What part of this web site do i go to for questions? Thanks Trish

YorkieNewbie22 12-11-2007 10:24 AM
Oh I am sure we will meet soon anyways, it was just good to attend and just take everything in. I enjoyed the show very much!

What exactly does major broke mean?

Mardelin 12-11-2007 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieNewbie22 (Post 1598907)
Oh I am sure we will meet soon anyways, it was just good to attend and just take everything in. I enjoyed the show very much!

What exactly does major broke mean?
You need 15 points to AKC Champion a dog; of those 15 points, 2 wins must be Major wins....meaning 3 points or more at one show.....and under 3 different judges. The number of dogs/bitches needed for a 3 or more point Major differs from Region to Region....you can look them up on the AKC website. In California you need 8 bitches for a 3 point Majors....2 weren't shown, therefore breaking the Major ....My Tahlulah need a 3 point Major to obtain her Championship.

Mardelin 12-11-2007 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by iluvmyyorkie (Post 1598905)
Hi , i'm new to this web site. I have a 4 mo. old Yorkie baby. I have so many questions from the best food to bathing. HELP! What part of this web site do i go to for questions? Thanks Trish
The Grooming section and the Diet section are the best areas to obtain the information you're looking for.

YorkieNewbie22 12-11-2007 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1598918)
You need 15 points to AKC Champion a dog; of those 15 points, 2 wins must be Major wins....meaning 3 points or more at one show.....and under 3 different judges. The number of dogs/bitches needed for a 3 or more point Major differs from Region to Region....you can look them up on the AKC website. In California you need 8 bitches for a 3 point Majors....2 weren't shown, therefore breaking the Major ....My Tahlulah need a 3 point Major to obtain her Championship.

Ah, I understand now! Thank you for explaining.

Brooklynn 12-11-2007 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1598918)
You need 15 points to AKC Champion a dog; of those 15 points, 2 wins must be Major wins....meaning 3 points or more at one show.....and under 3 different judges. The number of dogs/bitches needed for a 3 or more point Major differs from Region to Region....you can look them up on the AKC website. In California you need 8 bitches for a 3 point Majors....2 weren't shown, therefore breaking the Major ....My Tahlulah need a 3 point Major to obtain her Championship.
Mary for majors isn't it just 2 different judges since you only need 2 majors? Of course it's going to be more than 3 judges since one can't obtain a championship with only 2 judges there isn't enough points with just 2 judges..or am I reading what you said wrong? I could be wrong LOL

Mardelin 12-11-2007 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1599061)
Mary for majors isn't it just 2 different judges since you only need 2 majors? Of course it's going to be more than 3 judges since one can't obtain a championship with only 2 judges there isn't enough points with just 2 judges..or am I reading what you said wrong? I could be wrong LOL
here's how it's explained on the AKC website

The American Kennel Club requires a dog to obtain a total of 15 points with two major wins (a major win is worth three points or higher) to become a champion. The majors must be won under different judges and at least one other judge must award some of the remaining points - so you need to win under at least three different judges.

Tx2Stepn 12-11-2007 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1599061)
Mary for majors isn't it just 2 different judges since you only need 2 majors? Of course it's going to be more than 3 judges since one can't obtain a championship with only 2 judges there isn't enough points with just 2 judges..or am I reading what you said wrong? I could be wrong LOL
Straight from the AKC Website:
"Most dogs in competition at conformation shows are competing for points toward their AKC championships. It takes fifteen points, including two majors (wins of three, four or five points) awarded by at least three different judges, to become an American Kennel Club "Champion of Record." "

Mardelin 12-11-2007 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tx2Stepn (Post 1599117)
Straight from the AKC Website:
"Most dogs in competition at conformation shows are competing for points toward their AKC championships. It takes fifteen points, including two majors (wins of three, four or five points) awarded by at least three different judges, to become an American Kennel Club "Champion of Record." "
Pulled mine from the AKC website too.


http://www.akc.org/events/conformati...ing_points.cfm

somehow when posting the website...it leaves the ion off conformation/counting_points.cfm

Tx2Stepn 12-11-2007 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1599122)
Pulled mine from the AKC website too.


http://www.akc.org/events/conformati...ing_points.cfm

somehow when posting the website...it leaves the ion off conformation/counting_points.cfm
Tag your it... LOL... we must have posted about the same time... that link still works tho...:aimeeyork

Brooklynn 12-11-2007 12:27 PM
Ok I'm not picking on anyone LOL...just saying that's a no brainer LOL. It's kinda reduntant....you can't obtain 15 points with just 2 judges it would have to be 3 or more..... I guess what I'm trying to say is this....it takes 2 different judges for majors and if you have common sense you'd know it takes another one to get the rest of your points....I know I make things hard lol! I don't like wasting words when you don't need too LOL.....I guess I just confused everyone LOL LOL LOL! Ok I'll go crawl back into the woodwork for now LOL

Donna

Tx2Stepn 12-11-2007 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1599195)
Ok I'm not picking on anyone LOL...just saying that's a no brainer LOL. It's kinda reduntant....you can't obtain 15 points with just 2 judges it would have to be 3 or more..... I guess what I'm trying to say is this....it takes 2 different judges for majors and if you have common sense you'd know it takes another one to get the rest of your points....I know I make things hard lol! I don't like wasting words when you don't need too LOL.....I guess I just confused everyone LOL LOL LOL! Ok I'll go crawl back into the woodwork for now LOL

Donna
Donna,

A person could get 2-5 point Majors from the same judge and 1-5 point Major from another and would still have to get a single point from a 3rd judge for the title.

Brooklynn 12-11-2007 12:47 PM
Thanks Sonia and Mary I knew it took two different judges for majors and I just assumed that the different third judge was seen as inevitable :) Thanks for clarifing :)

Donna

Mardelin 12-11-2007 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1599195)
Ok I'm not picking on anyone LOL...just saying that's a no brainer LOL. It's kinda reduntant....you can't obtain 15 points with just 2 judges it would have to be 3 or more..... I guess what I'm trying to say is this....it takes 2 different judges for majors and if you have common sense you'd know it takes another one to get the rest of your points....I know I make things hard lol! I don't like wasting words when you don't need too LOL.....I guess I just confused everyone LOL LOL LOL! Ok I'll go crawl back into the woodwork for now LOL

Donna
For you and I and other exhibitors it's a no brainer.....But, for the newbie it may need to be clarified.

I know that when I as starting it was so confusing to me....what the whole progression of things at a dog show....

Brooklynn 12-11-2007 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1599435)
For you and I and other exhibitors it's a no brainer.....But, for the newbie it may need to be clarified.

I know that when I as starting it was so confusing to me....what the whole progression of things at a dog show....
yeah it's confusing to say the least LOL :)


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