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Jellybears 12-30-2009 05:28 AM
Shiny Coat
 
I noticed on the last dog show the Yorkshire Terrier had the most beautiful shiny coat. My Yorkie, Mr. Darcy just turned one, but his coat does not shine, and 'flow' that way. Is there a safe product I can use on him? Thanks,

yorkie_mama22 12-30-2009 06:33 AM
I've been using pantene pro v shampoo and conditioner on my dogs for a while as well as my mom uses it on hers and I like the way they feel and smell after. As for shine, I give my dogs Salmon/Fish oil vitamins and I can definitely see their coats shinning!

I just bought some Bio groom shampoo yesterday and used it on 2 of my dogs, 1 being a yorkie and she feels great, shines and smells awesome! :D

Mardelin 12-30-2009 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jellybears (Post 2933180)
I noticed on the last dog show the Yorkshire Terrier had the most beautiful shiny coat. My Yorkie, Mr. Darcy just turned one, but his coat does not shine, and 'flow' that way. Is there a safe product I can use on him? Thanks,
All is dependent on your yorkie's coat texture. And of course genetics, nutrition come into play. There are some products that you can use to add temporary shine.....such as Plush Puppy Comb and Shine.

Just a bit of info on coat.

Soft Coated/Wooly Coats do not reflect light, never will become shiney.

Jellybears 12-31-2009 05:25 AM
Shiny Coat
 
I have been using a natural puppy shampoo since I was afraid of 'soap in his eyes!" Mr. Darcy's coat is soft. I get him groomed once a month, and the groomer says he has a nice coat although he does get little 'tats' sometimes, which I can easily comb out. I was wondering what food you use? if you don't mind my asking.....

Mardelin 12-31-2009 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jellybears (Post 2934649)
I have been using a natural puppy shampoo since I was afraid of 'soap in his eyes!" Mr. Darcy's coat is soft. I get him groomed once a month, and the groomer says he has a nice coat although he does get little 'tats' sometimes, which I can easily comb out. I was wondering what food you use? if you don't mind my asking.....
Since I'm an exhibitor/breeder, it's not a one product fits all situation. .....Just depends on the yorkie and what I'm attempting to accomplish; weight reduction, coat growth, allergies, weight gain.....

But, what I tell my new families....."You can buy the most expensive food on the market, but if they don't eat it, what good is it"

Disney 12-31-2009 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 2933251)
I've been using pantene pro v shampoo and conditioner on my dogs for a while as well as my mom uses it on hers and I like the way they feel and smell after. As for shine, I give my dogs Salmon/Fish oil vitamins and I can definitely see their coats shinning!

I just bought some Bio groom shampoo yesterday and used it on 2 of my dogs, 1 being a yorkie and she feels great, shines and smells awesome! :D
Don't use this stuff! Sorry to butt in, I'm a hair product junkie and my best friend is a hair dresser. This stuff is full of silicone, which is a 'bandaid on a bullet wound' so to speak. The silicone attaches to the hair and makes it appear soft and shiny, but it's actually drying it out. If you use it for too long his coat will dry out and frizz. For a low end product, I'd suggest the Palmers hair range. All very moisturizing and gentle. :)

Mardelin 12-31-2009 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Disney (Post 2934699)
Don't use this stuff! Sorry to butt in, I'm a hair product junkie and my best friend is a hair dresser. This stuff is full of silicone, which is a 'bandaid on a bullet wound' so to speak. The silicone attaches to the hair and makes it appear soft and shiny, but it's actually drying it out. If you use it for too long his coat will dry out and frizz. For a low end product, I'd suggest the Palmers hair range. All very moisturizing and gentle. :)
You are so right....The only Pantene product I recommend is the Clarifying shampoo. The polimers/silicone is the worst product on the market for human hair.

Disney 12-31-2009 06:21 AM
Agreed. I've noticed you are very knowledgeable on yorkies so I have a quick question. Yorkies have hair rather than fur right? Is their hair the same as humans?

And yes, the sad thing is a lot of supermarket brands are chock full of the stuff because it's cheap and is a temporary fix. I swear by redken. Unbeatable IMO..Only other greatie is Natural Look, I use their blonde shampoo on my mate's maltese...She has the softest, silkiest, whitest coat you'll ever see on a maltese x! :D

Mardelin 12-31-2009 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Disney (Post 2934706)
Agreed. I've noticed you are very knowledgeable on yorkies so I have a quick question. Yorkies have hair rather than fur right? Is their hair the same as humans?

And yes, the sad thing is a lot of supermarket brands are chock full of the stuff because it's cheap and is a temporary fix. I swear by redken. Unbeatable IMO..Only other greatie is Natural Look, I use their blonde shampoo on my mate's maltese...She has the softest, silkiest, whitest coat you'll ever see on a maltese x! :D
Absolutely, there coat is very much like human hair.....although different textures.

Funny you should mention Redkin.....because it's what I use.....all dependent on the texture. I use every one they provide; Smooth Down, Extreme, Light Moisture and Body Full. What I haven't tried is the Blonde; for obvious reasons. But, I have groomed Maltese and have added 2 % cream developer into the shampoo and followed with a heavy moisturizing conditioner.

Disney 12-31-2009 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2934713)
Absolutely, there coat is very much like human hair.....although different textures.

Funny you should mention Redkin.....because it's what I use.....all dependent on the texture. I use every one they provide; Smooth Down, Extreme, Light Moisture and Body Full. What I haven't tried is the Blonde; for obvious reasons. But, I have groomed Maltese and have added 2 % cream developer into the shampoo and followed with a heavy moisturizing conditioner.
I'm considering (Don't know if I'm confident enough) getting a show quality yorkie as my next pet. Dog shows are VERY common in my town, and I love grooming my friends pets, I always leave a coat better than I found it! So I was hoping I could win a best of coat category...Pipe dream I know. ;)

Your yorkies' coats are stunning! Full, thick, shiny. (Nothing makes a yorkie more unattractive than when they have a very thin coat..No matter how shiny or soft.)

I just Real Control..I was planning to buy All Soft and Extreme..Then I found out that Real control is actually half and half! Saved a lot of money there. I alternate between Real control's conditioner and All soft's one so my hair has the perfect balance of moisture and protein.

Sorry for stealing the thread guys!

Cha Cha 12-31-2009 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2934702)
You are so right....The only Pantene product I recommend is the Clarifying shampoo. The polimers/silicone is the worst product on the market for human hair.
LOL! I have used Pantene products on my hair for years. I never knew this. The lady that cuts my hair is always commenting on how healthy it is. Of course I don't use it on my dogs though. What you gals are saying is very interesting and informative.

Disney 12-31-2009 06:51 AM
Good to know I'm educated on something..You ladies make me feel so ignorant with your breeding banter...Not that it's a bad thing lol!

I think most of it comes down to genetics, exercise, diet, general health etc. However if your hair is already dry...Pantene= Very bad idea lol.

Mardelin 12-31-2009 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 2934721)
LOL! I have used Pantene products on my hair for years. I never knew this. The lady that cuts my hair is always commenting on how healthy it is. Of course I don't use it on my dogs though. What you gals are saying is very interesting and informative.
It was my hair dresser that informed me about Pantene.......

Cha Cha 12-31-2009 08:00 AM
Oh! I believe that is probably true about Pantene. I am confused though, are you saying you are using the Redkin on your dogs?

The only products that I have ever found labeled for human/animal use is a product line called Cowboy Magic. I used it on my horses, and loved the results so I used it on myself and wowzers it is awesome stuff, but pricy. I do use a Cowboy Magic leave in conditioner on my dogs that makes their hair unbelieveably soft, manageable, and shiny. (it would probably give me the flyaways!)

Mardelin 12-31-2009 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 2934791)
Oh! I believe that is probably true about Pantene. I am confused though, are you saying you are using the Redkin on your dogs?

The only products that I have ever found labeled for human/animal use is a product line called Cowboy Magic. I used it on my horses, and loved the results so I used it on myself and wowzers it is awesome stuff, but pricy. I do use a Cowboy Magic leave in conditioner on my dogs that makes their hair unbelieveably soft, manageable, and shiny. (it would probably give me the flyaways!)
Well my secret is out.....and answer to your question yes, Redkin on my dogs. Being an exhibitor/breeder I have every shampoo conditioner known to man a dog (my cupboard is filled with them)....I've tried Cowboy Magic on my a couple of my pet dogs....not impressed.

yorkie_mama22 12-31-2009 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 2934721)
LOL! I have used Pantene products on my hair for years. I never knew this. The lady that cuts my hair is always commenting on how healthy it is. Of course I don't use it on my dogs though. What you gals are saying is very interesting and informative.

I've used this shampoo for a year on myself. And my hair dresser is always commenting on how healthy and strong my hair is. She's never said anything about it being dry. That's weird I always love how it makes my hair feel. lol What shampoo should I be using then that's good? I really don't care I always just grab whatever for myself.

yorkie_mama22 12-31-2009 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2934773)
It was my hair dresser that informed me about Pantene.......

Theres a breeder on here that swears by Patene on her dogs, that's why I gave it a try. Her dogs have some gorgeous coats.

But I got the Bio groom now and I will be using that only on the dogs.

Mardelin 12-31-2009 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 2934810)
Theres a breeder on here that swears by Patene on her dogs, that's why I gave it a try. Her dogs have some gorgeous coats.

But I got the Bio groom now and I will be using that only on the dogs.
I'm an exhibitor first a breeder 2nd.....So, pretty particular on the products used on my dog's coats. Cultivating a great coat is based on genetics first, nutrition 2nd and of course coat care.

silverjoy 12-31-2009 08:16 AM
Great Thread!!!! I love it when I learn something new:). Thanks for sharing!!

yorkie_mama22 12-31-2009 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2934822)
I'm an exhibitor first a breeder 2nd.....So, pretty particular on the products used on my dog's coats. Cultivating a great coat is based on genetics first, nutrition 2nd and of course coat care.

Well thank you for that information. It definitely makes sense. I don't think my Lola will ever have a "gorgeous" coat due to genetics.

Jellybears 12-31-2009 01:13 PM
You are so right about the expensive food. I bought that for him and he wouldn't touch it! He seems to like Iams, a bit of wet for dinnertime, and dry otherwise.

Mardelin 12-31-2009 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jellybears (Post 2935206)
You are so right about the expensive food. I bought that for him and he wouldn't touch it! He seems to like Iams, a bit of wet for dinnertime, and dry otherwise.
I do use IAMs wet on some of my picky eaters....something they love about the lamb and rice......a teaspoon mixed into their kibbles.

Gennies 01-03-2010 08:18 AM
What a GREAT thread!!!! I've been torn over my own dry hair for years and have worried about Bijou's wooly coat as I want to let it grow out some, but worried that it may not be do'able....I feed her Wellness and once old enough will switch her to Evo. But I'm for ever stacking my (her :p) closet with every hair product I can find to try to help it. I've got it now thanks so much ladies!!!! You have no idea how much you've made my day with this thread! I considered giving up on her having a beautiful and knot free coat, but now there's hope again! If there was an icon for cartwheels I'd have it here :D

Jellybears 01-03-2010 06:52 PM
A GREAT Grooming Product.....
 
My Yorkie, Mr. Darcy, just turned one. I had him groomed since he was about 6 months. A couple of times, we had to trim him quite short, as he had tats. In the Fall my groomer used a product on him call T*H*E STUFF for dogs. It has turned out to be one of those products that yu say to yourself "wow, this really works" (which I find few and far between) I bathe him, spray this on, an area at a time and his coat is wonderful - the odd little tat just combs right out. It is a conditioner, tangle remover and preventative, repels dirt, dust and urine - forms a protective barrier. PH balanced, non toxic, hypoallergenic - what more could you ask?! Made in Cleveland, Ohio, by T*H*E Laboratories....

AmyChristine 01-03-2010 07:05 PM
I love Redken products, I use them all....I love the so soft and extreme... never thought to try them on the furs. I may just have to change it up for the next bath:)

Mardelin 01-03-2010 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AmyChristine (Post 2939252)
I love Redken products, I use them all....I love the so soft and extreme... never thought to try them on the furs. I may just have to change it up for the next bath:)
Make sure whenever you change products, to start with a clean coat. In other words use a clarifying shampoo before you introduce a different brand product. Make it a practice about every 4th bath.


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