I'm sorry you are upset, and I'm not the one that flagged you if you were flagged. But please tell me what kind of karma allows for an innocent child to be killed due to a lapse in judgement? And since when does calling a person a hypocrite stop qualifying as criticism? I hope you and your friends will be able to cope with your loss. I feel very badly for the family.

That was beautifully written and I think speaks for all of us who have
the same feelings.
My heart goes out to this family.

OK, I guess we all need to come to some understanding and get one thing straight....I did not attack anyone on here. When I posted words of "people on here" or "those of you" or phrases of that nature, I was directing that towards those who made comments of......no one should feel sorry for the parents, the mother is to blame, etc. I started posting to point out the fact that it is not in good nature to blame the mother for a tragedy like this. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and yes, this is something that could have been prevented. But, none of us were in the house when this happened, so who are we to say anything? The parents are VERY good friends of mine, we have all been grieving and crying for days now. Of course she blames herself......what mother wouldn't?? But, to turn this around and accuse me of attacking anyone on here or inflaming or criticizing is ridiculous! I have been nothing but respectful of everyone's feelings, even when I don't agree with them. I'm not telling any of you to NOT feel the way you do, but where is your compassion in life? A mother just lost the life of her baby daughter, and is also losing her beloved pet. Yes, there are situations in life that we can all go back and say...."if he/she/they/we/us/I would have done things differently"......but does that help the situation any? NO! What's done is done. There is no turning back, there is no bringing that precious little girl back into everyone's lives, there is no bringing the beloved husky back home. I was merely trying to point out that all of the facts aren't out yet, and to immediately say the terrible things that have been said is just not right. This could have been you! And I wanted those saying those things to stop for a split second and think about all of the situations in their lives where something tragic could have happened. Thank God for you that it didn't. Have sympathy and compassion for those that did suffer tragedy. Those hurtful comments were criticizing the mother, my friend. I, however, did not criticize anyone...and to say that I did, while agreeing with or backing up the ones that made criticizing comments toward the mother is hypocritical.

I've been nothing but respectful here, even to those who said such terrible things about my friend. But, to attack me now, while trying to back up your friends.....well, that's hypocritical too. Because that's exactly what I was on here doing, defending my friend's honor that was being trashed by certain individuals. This woman is beside herself right now with grief and sorrow. Do any of you on here have to hold up your friend while she buries her baby? NO!! But, think about that possibility before you make more hurtful comments.

I agree with those of you saying this was preventable. Most things in life are. And precautions were taken to prevent this, but we don't know how the dog got into the room!!!!!!! She most certainly did not open up the bedroom door, call the dog in and then leave the room. In that case, SHE IS TO BLAME! But, that is NOT what happened!

My words have already been twisted and taken out of context. I'm not wasting anymore of my energy here. Those of you that have those hateful opinions, they are yours....to keep. Hold on to them....see if they do you any good in life.

See ya!

wow. This site has sunk pretty low. :(

Its really sad that members of YT have treated this situation as well as the new member that posted that knows this family. You know i dont get how a mother loses her child and you guys say the things you do. Seriously, there have been members here that have lost their yorkie, whether it be by the dog running away because they left the door open, or other reasons and what do they receive from members? Compassion, condolences and a shoulder to lean on. Do you guys go blaming the owner for the dog getting lost, or hit by a car? no....so why treat people this way? This thread was such a disappointment, and shows peoples true colors.

I am sorry that you have been hurt. I am sorry for your friend. But I do not think seeking out forums to post your views on & attacking members here is helpful to you or any of us.

You say you have been respectful - well I respectfully disagree. You have driven this thread and it's tone, critiquing & taking apart the words of others.

I disagree that people are hateful here - YT is filled with loving members. But like anywhere else you would go, we have our opinions. Would the words be different if this had happened to one of our members? Most likely - those who would put responsibility on the parent, probably wouldn't say that if she was a member here. Tongues would be held. There would be a lot of "I'm sorry, praying for you."

But this thread was posted as news - people comment. Just like when a story is placed on a newspaper website. It's that simple. (Have you ever read comments on a newspaper website? That will surely raise the blood pressure of the most laid back person even when the issue isn't controversial - because all it takes is one person to turn it controversial.)

It's too bad you chose to spend your time of grief this way. It's too bad that you only joined our forum to argue on this issue. Wonder how many other forums you have done the same thing to. Please find a constructive way to deal with your grief and offer some time and comfort to your old friends

:thumbup::thumbup:

New members should be yorkie owners or potential yorkie owners don't you think?

And I resent being quoted as an example of how "This site has sunk pretty low." I, just like others in this thread,have had enough of this person coming on here just to bash us. If you say you are leaving then leave. Don't keep posting. I repeat that we have opinions and express them here. Anyone that thinks or says that any of us have no compassion for the family of this baby are mistaken. We do. I feel horrible for everyone involved....Except the one that is trying to stir up trouble.

And knowing that doglvrfrombirth is still lurking about I suggest that she call the Daily Journal and offer them the information she is supposedly privy to. Get it all out in the open and maybe that will stop speculation.
You can be anonymous as a "close friend of the family." We STILL don't have the whole story from you or anyone else do we.

I deeply regret being rude to anyone on this site and apologize for offending, however my opinions remain the same and my defense of my friends is unwavering.

Found this tid-bit online this afternoon. Been trying to follow the story - here's the link for others interested as well.

Web exclusive -- Police still waiting to interview baby's family - The Daily Journal

sickened and disgusted!!!
 

AS a mother and a dog owner...I am sicked by some of the responses here pointing the fingers of blame and neglect. What kind of mother leaves an infant on a bed alone??? Hundreds of thousands including ME!!! These were new parents of TWINS!!! How many of you are parents of twins? Newborn babies cannot roll over or scoot. Many many many people do at some point, place a baby in the middle of a large bed to nap. Especially if the bed is closer to which room your planning on being in at nap time.

Mothers and fathers have to EAT....they DO have to shower, pee, poo, cook &.....they do have to sleep!!!!

How many of you that are over-analyzing and being overly critical were parents that NEVER took their eyes off their baby?? Did you not cook? did you not shower? did you not sleep?

Most infants usually room-in with their parents until they are old enough to be in their own room. Most infants dont even use their cribs as newborns.....they use bassinettes, which a dog could EASILY get into!! Does that make a neglectful parent?? Certainly does not. These people had only been parents a few weeks....give them a BREAK!!!

Accidents happen and thats exactly what this is--accident!!

MY gosh-i just cannot believe this harsh criticism. I hope and pray that these parents never find their way to this message board. They are going through the worst kind of grief that a parent could ever suffer through. Do you not think they are beating themselves up over this??? Im 100% certain they are!! They have to live with this everyday for the rest of their lives!! Com'on people!!! It was a terrible accident. AS with all accidents--hind sight is always 20/20.

Let me guess-if these parents decided to re-home their dogs before their twins were born-ya'll would have torn them up over that too??

Let those without sin cast the first stone!!! Judgementals need to get over themselves cuz nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

Very very well posted! I agree 110%!

This is a news story and people are going to give opinions and they may not be the same as someone elses but why attack someone because their opinion. I agree that the Mother shouldnt have left the babies on the bed. I feel bad for everyone involved

:thumbup::thumbup:couldn't have said it better myself

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: It is too bad some people just can't respect the way others feel, and have different opinions on such a heated news story, that's shameful. :(

So sad and tragic. My prayers go out to these parents and their family members.

I didn't mean to stir this thread up again...
Maybe a moderator should lock this thread now...?

I'm keeping an eye on this story so if this thread does get locked, and if you're interested in any links I run across send me a PM and I'll PM them to you. I do not, although, want to hear anyone's opinion on the matter anymore - so if you PM me, please PM me for information ONLY.

Much appreciated.

Yes this is a sad happening, I am sure that Mother will blame herself for the rest of her life. She has to live with knowing that her child is dead because of an error in judgement. I would have left a 4 wk old in the middle of the bed, they don't move that much at that age,and think nothing of it. But not with a big dog , such as that loose in the house. Not out of sight either.

How are you following this story? I haven't seen anything publish of late.

For those of you that are still interested, I did start another thread which I will use for any updated I can contribute. I request a kinder gentler approach to posts.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...stigation.html

I am requesting Admin to close this thread.