??? whose dog here ever suffers Bladder Stone???
 

my male dog who is only 1 year old and weighs only 1.76 pounds suffers Bladder Stone about 2 months. the vet said that he must eat wet u/d for a while in order to control his symptom. yet i don't think this will be good for the long time,i'd rather to switch to kibble such as canidae,science diet,etc. and let him drink water as much as he can.do you guys have any suggestion?

P.S. his crystals are too tiny and too less to tell the kind of Bladder Stone so the vet guesses that it should be Calcium Oxalate.

moreover, the vet told me that my sweet boy will loss his weight after eating the u/d canned for few months and this make me feel very worry.:thumbdown

The vet shouldn't "guess" what kind of stone it is because the treatment is completely contingent on the type of stone. Ask him to have the stones analyzed because you need to know what kind they are. Regardless of the type of stone though, drinking lots of water is not enough. You need to add equal parts water to the food. So, if your dog eats 1/5 of a cup at each meal, you should be adding at least 1/5 cup of water to the kibble at each meal to ensure that he's getting enough moisture. His urine needs to be dilute in order to prevent stones from forming. This is very key.
Definitely tell the vet to analyze the stones.... Does he have to have surgery each time he gets a bladder stone or does he pass them on his own?

u/d is very high in fat, so I don't see him losing weight on it. Most dogs I know that have been on this food gain weight.

actually, the vet assumes that it should be calcium oxalate via a urinalysis and collecting the stones by flushing the urinary bladder about 2 times when my dog couldn't pee. yet, as i already said, the stones were too tiny to have a laboratory analysis and too small to do a surgery (it's about 1/2 ml.)

i'd like to know that could i feed him normal kibble plus let him drink as much water as he can. and which supplements could i give? :confused:

I would feed him the u/d it worked for my Remmy. The u/d does make them more thirsty so they drink more so make sure to keep water available at all times.

What kibble do you feed? Could you post the ingredients? Here's a link to a website that shows which foods are low oxalate (good for a dog who gets calcium oxalate stones), medium oxalate (should be limited), and high oxalate (should be completely avoided):
http://www.branwen.com/rowan/oxalate.htm
Check the ingredients of the food that you feed to make sure that they are low oxalate. If they're not low oxalate, then you shouldn't feed that food.
Also, if you decide to feed the kibble u/d or a kibble that's low oxalate, make sure that you add equal parts water to the dry food. So, if you feed 1/5 cup per feeding, add 1/5 cup of water to it. Drinking lots of water is not enough. Water needs to be added to the food as well if you're not feeding canned.
The u/d is supposed to work for calcium oxalate stones, so if you decide to go with that food, it's better to feed the canned not the dry. The dry contains ethoxyquin and it doesn't have enough moisture for a dog who is having stones, even if he drinks a lot of water.

i'd like to feed him CANIDAE® All Life Stage formula

Guaranteed Analysis

Crude Protein (min.) 24.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 14.50%
Crude Fiber (max.) 4.00%
Moisture (min.) 10.00%
Lenoleic Acid (Omega 6) (min.) 3.70%
Vitamin E (min.) 200.00 IU/kg
Calcium (min.) 1.20%
Phosphorus (min.) .90%
Alpha Linolenic Acid (Omega 3) (min.) .60%
Ascorbic Acid (min.) 50.00 mg/kg
Cellulase (a) (min.) 100 CMCU/kg
Magnesium (min.) 0.14%
pH 6.0

All Natural Ingredients
Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

i think it's o.k. what do you think?

thank you very much for you opinion :)

Well, I'm not sure. Maybe you could ask your vet to look over the ingredients and print out that chart I gave you in that link. I pray that your baby gets better!

Bladder Stones
 

Hi! All,

My little guy had struvite crystals in his urine. My vet recomended methio-form tablets on a daily basis. And also a change in diet, u/d. I wasn't happy with any of that so I started him Solid Gold berry balance twice a day and also went from a mostly dry diet to mostly wet. Within a week and a half no more blood in his urine and has been doing fine since in June. I feed Canidae wet and dry to my babies. The berry balance has had a positive impact on him and it's more of a natural way. I most certainly would have your vet make sure just which he has, calcium oxalate or struvite. Wishing you and your little one the best of luck.:animal-pa