also you mentioned the pup had ringworn not your husband but in the above post you state different...please send me the name of your vet I would be happy to talk with him and pay the bill long distance for the proper care of your pup

My pup doesnt have ringworm...if thats what you read then that was a mistake...and my husband couldnt of gotten it from an animal cuz we had none at the time...and we werent around any then...and for like the third time...my kids' doc says that if none of us have gotten it from him then its not ringworm..and that there is alot of things that look like it that are harmless...we havent tried any home remedies on her...we can just get the same pill at the grange as we can at the vet...and it treats for all kinds of worms...its just simple worms and she will be treated on friday for it...shes fine...thank you all for the offers but i honestly couldnt accept help from anyone with something like that without being a little embarased lol...and im not in coos bay...im close but im in myrtle point which is even more of a hick town then coos bay...and location does have a little to do with it...vets here are alot different then the ones in a big city and people are different with their dogs in a bigger city also...i have called the vet and asked what they had to treat worms and they said they usually give safeguard...and i called the grange and that is also what they sell but its alot cheaper to get it at the grange...i know what kind of worms it is...its flat worms which can be treated over the counter. i appreciate all of your concerns but being here and knowing first hand whats going on i know its not bad yet...i have had some experience with pets and i have only taken one to the vet when they had worms cuz it was serious...and fergie isnt to that point...and so if i get safeguard and it doesnt get rid of them then i will take her to the vet...thanks again for your concern

Why are you waiting for Friday she need to be treated now!!!!!

I was going to wait till friday cuz its payday but then i found out i can write a check to the grange so im gonna go tomorrow and get it...i really cant go anywhere now cuz my girls are still sick with the flu but getting better...so tomorrow i am getting it

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Bottom line, your dog needs medical treatment...now. I understand money gets tight, but your dog's problems won't neccessarily wait until you can get back on your feet. Please get your dog proper treatment. If you can't manage to properly care for the animal as is neccessary, please get the dog to someone who can. Ignoring the problem for whatever reason is neglect, plain and simple.:(

Did you know tobacco is poisonous to dogs?

I agree!!!! Get this pup some help

I usually just ignore these type of threads and keep my opinion to myself, but this time I really feel compelled to speak my mind. I am not trying to offend you or be mean in any way. First off your puppy needs to see a vet asap, I don't care what type of town you live in, veterinarians go to school for a reason, they know more than us folks that aren't vets. I am originally from a small back hills town in West Virginia(I am talking hick town), maybe 700 people, and we had college educated vets within driving distance and used them not our own home remedies. If these type of things aren't treated properly they can get worse and cause more harm. When you brought this puppy into your home you should have thought about the timing of vet expenses. They don't always happen at payday, sometimes there are emergencies and you have to plan for that before it happens. If they offer payment plans there really is no excuse to not get the pup to the vet and if you can't afford payments you should have thought of that before you got the puppy. Saying your husband just doesn't like payment plans isn't a reason to not go to a vet. Have you ever seen Animal Precinct? If your puppy died from these illnesses, you would be held accountable because you didn't get it treatment from a vet. Don't tell me, you are from a small town so don't have to worry about animal control. Even if there is no animal control in your town, think of the point I am trying to make. Please get your puppy to a vet!

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Not defending taking your pets to a vet, but I took my poor Molliemae to my vet when she was having puppies. They had no one there during the day to handle a C-section, so I was sent all the way across town to the emergency vet. While they were preparing for tests and a C-section, Mollie not only had her breech puppy in her crate, but delivered a darling female on her own at the ER vet. We just never know. I hope everything turns out okay for your pup. I have 5 dogs and they are all beautiful to me. I pray everything goes okay. I paid the price for my vet and the ER and Molliemae did it on her own. Of course, I lost the first breech little darling, but I now have a beautiful 8 week old Abbi Rose. I adore her. Sometimes I feel if I had waited Mollie would have done it all on her own at home. I know this isn't concerning worms, but just thought I would add this. Please don't be offended. I think most of us love our dogs and do the best we can with them.

God Bless All.
Jan

Did you know that my brother has 17 dogs and he has used chew for years to deworm them all...and garlic for his cats...

I dont think you all are getting it...heres the deal...i can take her to the vet, get her safe guard, and pay 75 bucks...or i can go to the grange, get safe guard, and spend 10 bucks...all the vet is gonna do is give her a pill...and i can do that myself...i seriously dont get why you are all freakin out about this...just trust me its taken care of..thats that

So heres the news...I just called my vet and told them fergie has worms. they told me to go to the feed store in coquille and get safe guard. he said that if her worms were serious then i would need to bring her in but because shes only had them for a few days that i can just treat it myself. so end of discussion

You know you from reading alot of your treads you use Help and end of Disussion alot. I you ask for help you need to deal with what other advise you to do.

I dont know why you so irritable. Everyone was just concerned about your dog.

Ally, please stop advising something that can kill!

National poison control Center

Cigarettes and cigarette butts, cigars, pipe tobacco, nicotine patches, nicotine gum and chewing tobacco can be fatal to dogs if ingested. Signs of nicotine poisoning can appear within an hour and include hyperactivity, salivation, panting, vomiting and diarrhea. Advanced signs include muscle weakness, twitching, collapse, coma, increased heart rate and cardiac arrest. If you suspect your dog has ingested any of these seek veterinary treatment immediately.

your garlic theory - read below

Feline Future website warns against using garlic for cats and dogs "The use of garlic and other members of the Lily family such as onions, shallots, and chives in the cat's diet is not advised. Ingestion of these plants in a raw, cooked, or dried form can lead to damage of the red blood cells, which are rejected by the body from the bloodstream, and a continued use of garlic or onions can eventually result in hemolytic anemia. If the anemia is not controlled by discontinuing the use of the plants, it can potentially lead to death. Less significant but important is that raw garlic and onions irritate the mouth, esophagus, and stomach and can cause or exacerbate ulcers.

"Onion poisoning has been described in the cat by Kobayaschi (1981) who reported a hemolytic anemia and increase in Heinz bodies in cats that had consumed onion soup. (...)" Excerpt from Nutrient Requirements of Cats, Revised edition by the National Research Council. Ref.: Kobayaschi, K. 1981. Onion poisoning in the cat. Feline Pract. 11:22.

"Cats or Dogs should never be given raw, un-aged garlic because it is very irritating to the mouth, esophagus, and stomach and can cause or exacerbate ulcers." The Garlic Information Center hotline, 1-800-330-5922 at Cornell University Medical College.

We get ring worm every year with wrestling,If one has it does not mean the other three boys of mine will get it.If you can spot it early peroxide will kill it too,it cannot breath and grow.We will treat with perscriptions if not caught early and is growing,for we have a 7 days no wrestling for ring worm.And so try to catch it right away andy red spot gets treated.And it is HARD to get rid of sometimes.It is contagious but some seem more prone to it than others.
I have never had it on my dogs though!

:thumbup: That is just what i was going to say, you took the words right out of my mouth !

I just love how people use the number of residents in their town, as an excuse to improperly care for their pets. Ummm no! Just because there are 2500 people living in your town, doesn't mean you should avoid taking your dog to the vet. There is no excuse for that. You've been offered help, which you turned down. The reason us "big city folk" take our pets to the vet a lot is because we love them as our family, not just an animal. Now I know why breeders are so selective and become so worried when they are selling their pups.

Did you know that anyone who uses a poisonous substance to deworm an animal is either a fool or simply does not care!

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Got this from a few threads below
 

http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/worms.html

Why puppy should go to vet.

I have never replied to one of your post. I usually just sit here and laugh. If you are called on something you back track. I guess because you live in a small town no one has taught you to try and help your self before asking others. If you would have done that in the first place this whole mess would have never started. It seems like you ask first and wait to see who will help you. Then if you don't like what they have to offer you get offended and then decide to help yourself. I too live in a small town. I too can go to the feed store and get things that "big city folks" get from the vet. However, I don't. We are talking about a tiny breed of dog. They can be overcome by an illness very quickly. Also who tells you about dosing. Most of those packages are for 15lb or more. As far as home remedies. My Great grandmother was full blooded indian I have had my fair share of them. The great thing about the time in which we live today is that you can look up anything on the internet. I wouldn't dare give my child or dog and thing without checking it out first. Please stop making excuses. Please get help for your dog.

So let me get this strait...

You come on here and paint all the concerned members a picture of a pup who has been suffering from infestation for XXX amount of time, state that you can't afford treatment, ask for help, refuse it when it is offered (even when someone else offers to pay the bill for you!), state something that is clearly INCORRECT information, are proven wrong, then lash out at others for giving you the advice YOU asked for and insult everyone here with your holier-than-thou-more-informed-small-town-girl-I'm-under-attack attitude. Did that sum it up pretty well?

My initial suspicion is that the issues with your dog are not the biggest issues you have by a long shot--I truly hope that your dog can find the help it deserves.

Ok people, yes we are all upset she didn't take her dog to the vet, but she did call her vet and get advise. Let's just be happy her puppies getting some sort of help.

I really hope your little one is feeling better!:)

At the risk of getting myself banned or suspended...here goes.

Ally,

I have read a lot of your posts and had some conversations with you and it seems you still don't get it. You come on YT with your boo hoo I'm so poor, my husband's a non supportive ass and you present yourself as this poor pitiful me victim. And then when people offer you support, help, and a handout, you throw it back in their face. How dare you? Most of the members one here are way more knowledgable then you are about your yorkie and they deserve nothing but respect.

You asked for help with Fergie's worms, Feminvster offered to pay for your vet visit and you turned it down. What was the point of coming on here saying how broke you were, asking for help and then refusing the help when it was given? Connie k was right. When you are confronted on something you back track, change your story and then start attacking. You can't do that.

I've been where you are Ally. I had both my girls very young, I had the non supportive husband, so don't even go there with me. You can not come on here complain, ask for handouts and then slap the face of the people who try and help you. Your life situation is a choice you made and continue to make. Only you can change that and only you have the ability to do something about it. No one and I mean no one is going to hand it to you on a silver platter. Grow up and step up. I used to work 2 jobs while my kids were growing up so we could get by. My husband refused, so instead of whining about it I did something about it. Seems like you have a bunch of family, mom, sisters, etc to watch those kids for you so you can work if things are so bad.

It's my opinion that you are in over your head right now and the best thing you could do for Fergie is find her a good home. And maybe someday when things are more stable and you have some money, you could get a yorkie. Heck it took me 15 years before I got mine.

I know this will come across as mean and hurtful, and for that I'm sorry, but you just can not keep doing this.

These people are trying to be supportive. You need to decide to either accept their help when it's given or don't ask for it. Plain and simple.

I wish you the best and I hope you are able to overcome and figure it out. You have a hard road, I know. It's not going to get easier Ally, kids grow up and get more demanding and more expensive. Get a handle on it now. Think twice before you post.

Ally..
I totally don't understand your post??
Your first post you asked for remedies or suggestions for the worms..... and then you changed and were shouting you KNEW all the answers and knew all the cures for worms so everybody stop telling you. So now which is it? You need help or you already knew?????
I'm not trying to be mean but I absolutely don't understand why you poste if you knew all these down home backwoods remedies your family has been using for tons of dogs for years??

OOP By the way also.. not saying this in a mean way but YES your hubby can have ringworm without giving it to other family members. If you have a Dr. who just tells you over the phone don't bother with it because he knows over the phone it isn't ringworm... I would change Drs..

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I cant believe this is what happens when someone asks about worm pills. The offer to pay for vet help is no good. It is a four hr drive from Coos Bay to Portland. She would have to spend the night and alot of $$ for gas. That is not really an offer. You may not no that if you dont live in Oregon. Now you are telling her personal business and telling her how to live her life.