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urbnalbino 04-12-2006 07:54 AM
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Ew ew ew ew ew ew .. That is crazy. I wish all doggie owners would do a little bit of research of their own. That is a really awesome article! Thank you for sharing!!

spicychick1987 07-21-2011 05:30 AM
yorkie eating food
 
HI!!!
I am actually looking for better dog food.
Also my dog seem unable to eat most dog dry food, making him sick & have rashes.
So far only food he is able to eat the blue buffalo dry food, with salmon & sweet potato flavor.
ALSO....if i give him organic bone with marrow meat in it, he REFUSE to touch it!!! but if i take marrow off first, remove all meat off from organic bone, then he will touch it. other day i did testing. I gave him special veg bone and meat bone. he immeditaly went to veg bone ones!
AND my yorkie actually will eat my veggies out my garden!!!! I often caught him eating my cucumbers!!!
People actually b****ed at me, why i give my dog organic bone, this and that, and why I am raising my dog that way, blah blah. I simply say, I want my dog to be healthy, very activity, and happy.

I actually make homemade sweet potato dried, its very easy to make! Also Sam (my dog name) refuse to eat any treats that are meat flavored too! So I have to look hard to find fruit or veggie treats. He will only eat organics one tho. Kind strange I admit. But same time its good because organic food is healthier tho.

girltime 07-21-2011 08:41 AM
Here is the latest skinny on what my pack is eating and doing great on:

- Natures Domain Grain-Free Salmon and Sweet Potato (purchased at Costco...FoodAdvisor ranked it 4 out of 5 stars)
- RAW diet (always 100% monitored during meal time)

If my pack had their way, they would be 100% on RAW but so far they're only 50/50.

Hair, skin, teeth, and energy level are great and they're just so spunky and happy. :)

_Chrissy_ 07-23-2011 04:13 AM
Natural Balance also has an Organic dog food...
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Organic Formulas Dry Dog Food
I have not used it but I know I saw someone here on YT who does.

Ellie May 07-31-2011 07:48 AM
Organic and human grade aren't legally defined terms in the pet food industry, so we have no clear answer about just what they means when they describe a product this way. Even arsenic is organic (so not all organic things are healthy)... Some companies are using some very good marketing techniques.

tem_sat 07-31-2011 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3617962)
Organic and human grade aren't legally defined terms in the pet food industry, so we have no clear answer about just what they means when they describe a product this way. Even arsenic is organic (so not all organic things are healthy)... Some companies are using some very good marketing techniques.
"Human grade" has more to do with how the food was handled than the perceived "quality" of the food. For example, if a chicken falls off a conveyor belt and lands on the floor, it is no longer "fit for human consumption", aka "human grade".

Another way to make an informed decision regarding differing "quality" between pet foods would be to research (email companies directly) the methods, or lack thereof, each utilizes when denaturing their meats.

Ellie May 07-31-2011 10:46 AM
I agree that it's important to know some things about a company before feeding their food. Never hesitate to email or call and ask...

Foods are either fit or unfit for human consumption. Because there is no legal definition for human grade, there is no way to know which category it falls into. You could talk to the company about whether their product is fit for human consumption or not, but if they don't give you that exact verbage "our food is fit for human consumption", then you should assume it is not. Whether these companies can't make the claim because they use certain by products or because some food is processed differently will probably vary. But there is no such thing as human grade. So a company saying their food is human grade doesn't mean much. Most of the time it's a marketing strategy because people think they are giving their pets something that they themselves could eat.

Frequently Asked Questions American College of Veterinary Nutrition

tem_sat 07-31-2011 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3618045)
I agree that it's important to know some things about a company before feeding their food. Never hesitate to email or call and ask...

Foods are either fit or unfit for human consumption. Because there is no legal definition for human grade, there is no way to know which category it falls into. You could talk to the company about whether their product is fit for human consumption or not, but if they don't give you that exact verbage "our food is fit for human consumption", then you should assume it is not. Whether these companies can't make the claim because they use certain by products or because some food is processed differently will probably vary. But there is no such thing as human grade. So a company saying their food is human grade doesn't mean much. Most of the time it's a marketing strategy because people think they are giving their pets something that they themselves could eat.

Frequently Asked Questions American College of Veterinary Nutrition
The Honest Kitchen case is interesting as is, I would assume, the Natura case (which I don't really know much about).

See Mums the Word, Human Grade Ingredients in Pet Food

I would agree that the use of "organic" and "holistic" seem to be marketing oriented, however, so is the use of the trademarked "Prescription". There is no getting around it, PFC's want to make money and those who pay for advertising campaigns and lobbyists make it difficult for consumers to make an informed decision.

Ellie May 07-31-2011 11:46 AM
Prescription foods are called prescription foods because they require an order from a vet. I don't see big advertising campaigns to use these products for the most part.

I'm pretty darn thankful for rx diets because my dog would probably have continued to deteriorate without one. Her GI tract thanks the companies that make these foods too. I personally don't care if these companies make rx diets simply to make money. I do care that they save lives.

Yup, all that holistic and organic terminology in dog food is not regulated. I think the word "natural" might be though.

107barney 07-31-2011 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3618065)
The Honest Kitchen case is interesting as is, I would assume, the Natura case (which I don't really know much about).

See Mums the Word, Human Grade Ingredients in Pet Food

I would agree that the use of "organic" and "holistic" seem to be marketing oriented, however, so is the use of the trademarked "Prescription". There is no getting around it, PFC's want to make money and those who pay for advertising campaigns and lobbyists make it difficult for consumers to make an informed decision.
Your post assumes that consumers are incapable of making informed decisions because of marketing tactics, and I take offense to your view of consumers. Your implication that anyone using an Rx diet is stupid and uninformed is pretty insulting. :thumbdown

Britster 07-31-2011 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3618098)
Your post assumes that consumers are incapable of making informed decisions because of marketing tactics, and I take offense to your view of consumers. Your implication that anyone using an Rx diet is stupid and uninformed is pretty insulting. :thumbdown
I'm not going to get into an argument about which is which, but I didn't see where she implied that anyone who uses an rx diet is stupid and uninformed. At least that's not what I read.

tem_sat 07-31-2011 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3618098)
Your post assumes that consumers are incapable of making informed decisions because of marketing tactics, and I take offense to your view of consumers.
What? If the consumer sees the words "human grade", "holistic", "organic", etc. on the packaging, one would believe what they read. I don't quite follow what you were offended by.

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3618098)
Your implication that anyone using an Rx diet is stupid and uninformed is pretty insulting.
Again, what? I feel the consumer needs to be aware of the fact that "Hill's Prescription Diet" is a trademark. Nowhere did i state or imply that "anyone using a Rx diet is stupid or uninformed".

Ellie May 07-31-2011 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3618065)
The Honest Kitchen case is interesting as is, I would assume, the Natura case (which I don't really know much about).

See Mums the Word, Human Grade Ingredients in Pet Food

I would agree that the use of "organic" and "holistic" seem to be marketing oriented, however, so is the use of the trademarked "Prescription". There is no getting around it, PFC's want to make money and those who pay for advertising campaigns and lobbyists make it difficult for consumers to make an informed decision.
Hill's Prescription Diets, Purina Veterinary Diets, etc. are probably trademarked. Not sure what that has to do with marketing? Just confused.. So rx foods should be grouped with foods from companies that put appealing sounding sayings on their products to get sales? Yes, rx food companies make claims, but those claims are proven true through trials.

Nancy1999 07-31-2011 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3618142)
Hill's Prescription Diets, Purina Veterinary Diets, etc. are probably trademarked. Not sure what that has to do with marketing? Just confused.. So rx foods should be grouped with foods from companies that put appealing sounding sayings on their products to get sales? Yes, rx food companies make claims, but those claims are proven true through trials.
Great post, I think some people think the word "prescription" on a dog food is just an advertising ploy, and the word has no meaning. That's the way I feel about the word "holistic." :p

_Chrissy_ 08-01-2011 06:19 AM
Now I feel REALLY Confused what to feed after Jackson's pancreatitis...
 
HI Brittany and Jackson! I know you will be all over this helping me out. :)

I a so confused. I have been feeding my boys TOTW Pacific and Sierra.
After Jackson had hi pancreatitis bout I feel like maybe grain-free is not the way to go.
I'm scared I am making the wrong choice for my boys and I just wanna be a good mom.
What should I feed them that willnot be high in protein, not grain free, not high in fat, ...???
See what I mean?
My mind is reeling.
Thanks for the "rant relief".
Any suggestions?
What are you all doing? Have you made any changes in food now?


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