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Hydrolyzed vs HA Hydrolyzed vs HF Hydrolyzed Anyone know the difference? Long story short, my Coco was on Hills Digestive care (canned, wet) then the vet said she needed a hydrolyzed food. So she's now on Purina HA Hydrolyzed (both canned and dry kibble) but she doesn't like the canned as well as she liked the Hills canned. I called the vet. Vet said it had to be hydrolyzed. I was thinking of trying some other wet, canned options to see if she'd like those more. There's... Purina (HA Hydrolyzed) Blue Natural (HF Hydrolyzed) Royal Canine (Hydrolyzed) not HA or HF Anyone know the diff? |
I have had great success with Hill's ZD. (it is hydrolyzed). My Teddy was on it for years before he went to the bridge. I have two fosters on it. They like the canned and the kibble....if you do try it, be sure to get the "small bites" as the kibble on regular is on the larger side. I have another foster who is on the RC Hydrolyzed....he does like it I think the HA is just the name of the food.... but it is hydroyzed. Personally, I don't trust Blue and won't use any of their foods. |
Oh wait......do they not think this might be lymphangectasia? I don't recall if they scoped her.... I think the ZD is higher on the fat which could be a concern . I am guessing they think IBD which is why they want hydrolyzed. If she has both IBD and lymphangectasia, she might need a novel protein, low fat food...OR home cooking. |
Yes, I they are treating her as if she has lymphangectasia. She's on the Purina HA Hydro now, she eats it, she's doing well but she doesn't love it like she did the non-hydrolyzed Hillsl gastro-intestinal. I bought her another case of the Purina but I'm going to ask if I can try the Royal Canine hydrolyzed and see if she likes it better. I just don't understand why some say HA, HF or don't say anything at all but call it hydrolyzed. |
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The fact they are giving hydrolyzed tells me they are covering all bases. Many of the lymphangectasia dogs also have IBD. Both conditions are under the umbrella of : Protein losing enteropathy I honestly don't know the fat content of the RC Hydrolyzed diet. I had a pup with IBD and pancreatitis and he was on Hills ZD, a hydrolized diet for years. They give hydrolized to avoid having a sensitivity to proteins which is a problem with IBD. I know you considered home cooking...that might be a great option for her if you cannot find a food that she likes (that she can have)/ |
Jackson is not picky and he looked at the Hills ZD like "wtf is this stuff?" lol. He then puked it up anyway. It was too high in fat for his pancreatitis, I think, but the texture of it also just didn't digest well with him. I'm not a fan of Hills in general so I'd go with RC, if it were my choice. But I do remember the RC canned being a bit higher in fat (once converted to dry matter basis, don't go by what is just on the can), so if that is a concern, it'd be a no go. But I do prefer RC the brand as a whole. |
Are rawhide bones a no no with possible IBD and lymphangectasia? I'm guessing so but Coco just loves them. I think it's one of the only things left bringing much happiness to her life. We've stopped them but she begs for them every day. The problem is my wife bought her rawhide bones and then kept upping the ante and gave her rawhide bones with dried chicken jerky attached, etc. Stopping those has been hard. |
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choking obstruction infection .. salmonella or ecoli I have used Nylabones for those who like to chew, but not the edible kind. Maybe someone else has some ideas.... |
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Anyway, here are the ingredients. Ingredients: Brown Rice Flour, Agar-Agar (vegetable gelatin), Organic Eggs, Peanut Butter Powder, Olive Oil, Banana Powder, Bromelain (Pineapple). Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein.....30% Minimum Crude Fat............1% Minimum Crude Fiber..........2% Maximum Moisture................16% Maximum Calorie Content: ME: 2953 Kcal/kg (Calculated) ME: 83.70 Kcal/oz (Calculated) Approximately 13 KCal Per Peanut Butter STIX |
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So even a low fat addition could potentially cause a problem. I am going to ask about this because I would like to know the answer as well. |
OK...I was wrong..it was 3/4 teas of oil/day. This was Cookie's overall diet profile: Diet Profile The diet contains: 336 kcal/day, 7.6 grams protein/100 kcal, 1.7 grams fat/100 kcal, 13.9 grams carbohydrate/100 kcal, 205 mg calcium/100 kcal, 202 mg phosphorus/100 kcal, 52 mg sodium/100 kcal, 38 mg magnesium/100 kcal, 557 mg potassium/100 kcal, 73% moisture, and 3.9 kcal/gram dry matter. Treat Options Administer pieces of fish or sweet potato as treats, or give 1-2 small pieces per day of apple chunks or 1-2 green beans per day. |
I'm sorry to hear everyone's dog is ill or has PLE. I think my yorkie also has it right now and it's an uphill battle to keep him alive. The vet originally prescribed salmon and sweet potato Hill's Prescription Diet d/d for skin/food allergies but my dog wouldn't eat it. So then I tried Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat Diet dry food a few days ago and he has gone downhill since eating it. I gave him about 12 kibbles mixed in with his rice/chicken and he ended up vomitting and diarrhea indoors that evening and has one downhill ever since. What is the best food for lymphangiectasia with chronic diarrhea for months: hydrolized food or Gastrointestinal Low Fat? How much difference is there in the Hill's d/d versus z/d food in terms of fat and protein content? Ladyjane: You mentioned a 'novel protein', what is that? I have also read that MCT oil or coconut oil is good for this disease. Is coconut oil (instead of MCT) okay to give the dog? |
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