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Lovetodream88 01-10-2018 05:16 PM
Immune system boost
 
Before I start my question I want to say I know supplements aren't tested and necessarily proven to work. Callie has Cushings and just went to the vet for one of her worst skin infections yet and the Vet thinks it was so bad because Cushings suppresses the immune system so I was wondering if anyone has had any luck or used any supplements to boost their pups immune system?

pstinard 01-11-2018 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4748300)
Before I start my question I want to say I know supplements aren't tested and necessarily proven to work. Callie has Cushings and just went to the vet for one of her worst skin infections yet and the Vet thinks it was so bad because Cushings suppresses the immune system so I was wondering if anyone has had any luck or used any supplements to boost their pups immune system?
I don't have any personal experience except with fish oil at the time Bella had an ear yeast infection, which I stopped because it made Bella's food and breath stink, and the infection had been cleared up with antibiotics. However, I found a good list of potential supplements that could be tried: https://iheartdogs.com/12-things-you...-their-health/ . Of these, fish oil, vitamin E, and coconut oil seem to be the most relevant to skin conditions. You can ask your vet if any of these might be beneficial for Callie, as well as how much to use, since too much of any good thing can be toxic.

ladyjane 01-11-2018 08:18 AM
Melatonin is often used in the treatment of Cushings. I know it helps with hair loss as I have had experience with a pup with Alopecia X which is also known as Pseudo Cushings. You may have seen his before and after photos before but sharing again just in case not.
I don't know for sure, but think maybe if it helps hair regrowth, perhaps it is good for the skin? You might want to ask your vet about it.

Index of /cody

The first two links are his before and after .. pretty stunning!

pstinard 01-11-2018 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4748343)
Melatonin is often used in the treatment of Cushings. I know it helps with hair loss as I have had experience with a pup with Alopecia X which is also known as Pseudo Cushings. You may have seen his before and after photos before but sharing again just in case not.
I don't know for sure, but think maybe if it helps hair regrowth, perhaps it is good for the skin? You might want to ask your vet about it.

Index of /cody

The first two links are his before and after .. pretty stunning!
The before and after photos of Cody are stunning! Digging into the research a little, melatonin is one of the first line treatments used by University of Tennessee Vet Med. Here is a link to their treatment guidelines: https://vetmed.tennessee.edu/vmc/dls...iderations.pdf

ladyjane 01-11-2018 08:41 AM
Oh! YIKES I made an error here. Cody didn't have Alopecia X and didn't take Melatonin....I have him confused with Sunny D. There is a thread here on YT about Sunny D. He also had amazing results.

BUT Cody is an interesting case as well. He had fungal and bacterial infections with hair loss. He was put on an antibiotic for the bacterial part. For the fungal infection I was advised to bathe him 2 - 3 x /week in Selsun Blue Shampoo and rinse him in 50/50 warm water vinegar rinse. You might want to consider the rinses Taylor. SO sorry for the confusing post.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...hair-loss.html

ladyjane 01-11-2018 08:44 AM
Here are links to before and after of Sunny D from taking the Melatonin:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2821723-post8.html


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3322943-post173.html

pstinard 01-11-2018 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4748346)
Here are links to before and after of Sunny D from taking the Melatonin:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2821723-post8.html


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3322943-post173.html
How long did it take for the hair to grow back after you started Sunny D on melatonin?

Lovetodream88 01-11-2018 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4748343)
Melatonin is often used in the treatment of Cushings. I know it helps with hair loss as I have had experience with a pup with Alopecia X which is also known as Pseudo Cushings. You may have seen his before and after photos before but sharing again just in case not.
I don't know for sure, but think maybe if it helps hair regrowth, perhaps it is good for the skin? You might want to ask your vet about it.

Index of /cody

The first two links are his before and after .. pretty stunning!
She is on Melatonin twice a day.

Lovetodream88 01-11-2018 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pstinard (Post 4748344)
The before and after photos of Cody are stunning! Digging into the research a little, melatonin is one of the first line treatments used by University of Tennessee Vet Med. Here is a link to their treatment guidelines: https://vetmed.tennessee.edu/vmc/dls...iderations.pdf
Yes the vet put Callie on Lingnans and Melatonin.

ladyjane 01-11-2018 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pstinard (Post 4748350)
How long did it take for the hair to grow back after you started Sunny D on melatonin?
It took about a month before I started to see a difference...at three months it was really coming along.

ladyjane 01-11-2018 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4748351)
She is on Melatonin twice a day.
I knew she was on the other...somehow I missed the Melatonin.

Lovetodream88 01-11-2018 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4748360)
I knew she was on the other...somehow I missed the Melatonin.
Yeah it supposed to stop certain hormones from being released. The one symptom Callie has not had is hair loss. She still has super thick hair.

Wylie's Mom 01-12-2018 03:45 AM
I really don't know of anything to boost the immune system, unfortunately :(. The skin infections are most definitely part of Cushings....I dealt with them for 8+ years with Wylie, as you know :love:.

Once you get the systemic cortisol decreased (ie, meds titrated to control cortisol), there will be a huge decrease in skin / ear issues. However, you will/may still see breakthrough skin infections nonetheless - for which I always used Simplicef x 28 days.

This is the rough part....that stage of titration....bc it takes such time, ugh...

Lovetodream88 01-13-2018 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4748425)
I really don't know of anything to boost the immune system, unfortunately :(. The skin infections are most definitely part of Cushings....I dealt with them for 8+ years with Wylie, as you know :love:.

Once you get the systemic cortisol decreased (ie, meds titrated to control cortisol), there will be a huge decrease in skin / ear issues. However, you will/may still see breakthrough skin infections nonetheless - for which I always used Simplicef x 28 days.

This is the rough part....that stage of titration....bc it takes such time, ugh...
We went for the antibiotic shot because she is on so many pills and she hates taking antibiotics.

ladyjane 01-14-2018 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4748547)
We went for the antibiotic shot because she is on so many pills and she hates taking antibiotics.
I love that Convenia injection! I have found that sometimes you need to do two of them .... keep a close eye on her at the two week mark.


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